QUOTE(Lex Luthor @ 15 Apr 2015, 11:52)
@luck33ro
Nu deliram.
Discutam daca uzul tigarilor electronice in public poate fi asimilat uzului tigarilor normale.
Din PMDV, aceste doua pot fi asimilate, cel putin in spatii inchise (gen mijloace de transport, sali de cinema, restaurante). Nu vad nimic deoasebit intre fumul de tigara si vaporii din tigareta electronica. A, ca vii tu zi zici ce miros frumos si ca nu sunt nocivi, permite-mi sa nu te cred.
de multe ori lucruri care nu pareau nocive au fost pana la urma.
Nu cred ca are vreun fumator de tigara electroinica tupeul sa-si aprinda acea tigara intr-un avion.
Cum nu cred ca ti-ar placea ca la cinema, toata lumea sa pufaie din acele porcarii. sa vezi atunci mirosuri (cinema 5D
).
Si, daca cei care considera tigareta electronica nociva sunt medievali, explica-le asta si celor din Los Angeles, unde a fost interzis uzul lor la fel ca si tigarile clasice in spatii publice:
Los Angeles e-cigarette ban in bars, restaurants starts Saturday"
E-cigarette users in the city of Los Angeles were relegated to the ranks of tobacco smokers at midnight Friday, when a ban on e-cigarette use at bars, restaurants and other public areas took effect.
“Vapers,” as e-cigarette users call themselves, will no longer be able to legally puff on their steam-emitting, battery-powered devices at indoor workplaces, such as bars, nightclubs and restaurants starting Saturday. They will also need to put away their e-cigarettes in public areas like farmers’ markets, parks, recreational facilities, beaches and outdoor dining areas.
The ban goes into effect more than a month after the
Los Angeles City Council, citing potentially harmful chemicals emitted via e-cigarette vapors, voted to restrict e-cigarette use in the same areas where tobacco smoking is barred."
sa nu mai vorbim de uzul lor intr-un mijloc de transport in comun, unde spatiul e si mai inghesuit.
N-aș da neapărat exemple de legi date împotrivă, decât dacă e ceva generalizat. Țin minte exemplul Italiei parcă, care a interzis vaccinul MMR pe baza studiului lui Wakefield care era fals. La fel multe țări interzic plante modificate genetic din cauza a câtorva studii eronate. Desigur la chestiile astea se adaugă lobby-ul din partea organizațiilor paranoice + părerile personale ale celor ce fac legea.
Cei care studiază cu adevărat treaba, zic că încă nu sunt destule detalii despre efectul pe termen lung, pentru că desigur, țigările electronice sunt ceva nou, dar știu sigur că "vaporii" eliminați nu sunt doar vapori.
http://apps.who.int/gb/fctc/PDF/cop6/FCTC_..._10-en.pdf?ua=1La punctul 16.
Bystanders are exposed to the aerosol exhaled by ENDS users, which increases the
background level of some toxicants,
1,2 nicotine3 as well as fine and ultrafine particles in the air.
Nevertheless the level of toxicants, nicotine and particles emitted from one ENDS is lower than
that of conventional cigarette emissions.4 It is not clear if these lower levels in exhaled aerosol
translate into lower exposure, as demonstrated in the case of nicotine. Despite having a lower
levels of nicotine than in second-hand smoke, the exhaled ENDS aerosol results in similar
uptake as shown by similar serum cotinine levels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23363041Conclusion: Regarding short-term usage, the studied e-cigarettes generate smaller changes in lung function but similar nicotinergic impact to tobacco cigarettes. Future research should target the health effects of long-term e-cigarette usage, including the effects of nicotine dosage.