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post 18 Jun 2010, 10:50
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Galbejitii fiind asiaticii! blink.gif
Iar eu ma refeream la solutiile OEM.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 12:58
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QUOTE(dantes @ 18 Jun 2010, 08:04)
LE: Banuiesc ca atunci cand ai facut afirmatia de mai sus ai avut un producator in minte care echipeaza masinile cu xenoane de 5-6-7000K.... chiar sunt curios ce producator foloseste becuri de cocalar....
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... culori d-astea mai coca'...
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Eu inteleg altceva si anume ca cei care isi pun xenon de 5000K - 6000K sunt cocalari rolleyes.gif .


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post 18 Jun 2010, 13:06
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mda... ce pot sa mai zic? se duce si forumul asta de rapa, daca deja ne jignim asa aiurea.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 13:12
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Aoleeeeu da' tare va mai place sa va victimizati! Eu i-am raspuns lui dantes, care a intrebat ce producator pune becuri cu temperaturi mai mari de 4300K. Raspunsul a fost foarte simplu - asiaticii.
Ce faceti voi cu masinile voastre ma intereseaza foarte putin atata vreme cat nu ma deranjati.

Daca nu urmati calea aleasa de UXE, de la mine numai up.gif, in special cei ca skorpio_bog care s-au chinuit sa faca miscarea cat mai OEM-like.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 13:19
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Stai linistit ca nu ma victimizez, dar plutea ceva in aer si am vrut sa ma edific smile.gif .


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post 18 Jun 2010, 13:31
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Bai frate da' ce "jumpy" e lumea...

Ca sa clarificam un pic lucrurile... Xenoanele after-market sunt ILEGALE, declarate de catre autoritatile competente in acest sens, si anume RAR. Ele devin LEGALE numai dupa omologarea lor pe masina care se monteaza, omologare care se face la rar. PUNCT.

Ce intrebasem pe R19 era de producatorii de masini, adica de xenoanele OEM, aka care vin din fabrica.

Revenind la culoarea xenoanelor oem...

La toyota nu am vazut altceva decat 4300... si nici hyundai...e adevarat ca nu stiu de mitsu, suzuky sau honda..... desi doar honda POATE are alta culoare decat 4300...

Oricum, ideea e clara.... Culoarea becurilor e bine/recomandat/legal sa fie alba... La regulament din cate imi aduc aminte se admite doar alb la faruri. Nu cu tente de albastru & stuff.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 13:37
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a scapat.gif ce bine ca maine imi pun de 4300k,asa intru si eu in "legalitate" naughty.gif
Pe cele de 6000k am gasit sa le vand la un amic,care are faruri fara lupe wink.gif cool.gif


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post 18 Jun 2010, 13:38
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post 18 Jun 2010, 15:25
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O intrebare care ma macina...xenon de 4300 sau 5000 deranjeaza pe far cu oglinda?


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post 18 Jun 2010, 15:29
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Orice temperatura va avea lumina ceilalti participanti vor fi deranjati daca nu ai lupa.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 15:46
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Orice xenon after market deranjează. Fie că e cu lupă, fie fără.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 15:55
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QUOTE(BioHazarD @ 18 Jun 2010, 16:25)
O intrebare care ma macina...xenon de 4300 sau 5000 deranjeaza pe far cu oglinda?
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Daca le reglezi bine, nu deranjeaza radmasa.gif

Am observat ca se folosete des sintagma de mai sus.


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post 18 Jun 2010, 17:50
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QUOTE(ssilviu @ 18 Jun 2010, 16:46)
Orice xenon after market deranjează. Fie că e cu lupă, fie fără.
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Corect.Oricum le-ai regla,tot nu e ca instalatia originala cu care iasa din fabrica.Poti sa ai 100 de spalatoare de far...


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post 18 Jun 2010, 18:47
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QUOTE(Adrian00 @ 18 Jun 2010, 17:50)
Corect.Oricum le-ai regla,tot nu e ca instalatia originala cu care iasa din fabrica.Poti sa ai 100 de spalatoare de far...
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post 19 Jun 2010, 01:57
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De multe ori m-au deranjat cei cu xenon OEM, cu lupa sau fara (honda, subaru, etc), si reglaj automat, deoarece pozitia de referinta, cum ar fi 0 la cele cu reglaj manual pe inaltime, este prea sus. De asemenea nu stiu cate sisteme de origine pot regla in timp real inaltimea la fiecare denivelare a drumului, pe cand la un reglaj manual pot da mai jos daca e nevoie.

D3 asemenea pot spune ca becurile h7R, speciale pentru faruri cu oglinda, au niste zone acoperite cu o banda opaca, si astfel focalizeaza fara imprastierea luminii.

Nu stiu daca exista astfel de becuri speciale pentru faruri cu oglinda, la sistemele h4 si h1.


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post 19 Jun 2010, 04:26
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balanel , acum vei primii sute de oua in cap pentru ce ai spus. Eu sustin ce ai spus dar unii de aici critica pana si xenon-ul oem. Pare cocalaresc xenon-ul pe masina , nu-i asa ? Cu atat mai mult daca e produsa de VAG ...

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post 19 Jun 2010, 07:59
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Inclusiv la xenoanele oem se regleaza SI manual exact ca la orice far normal. De la acel punct isi face auto-leveling. daca sunt reglate prost...prost vor bate indiferent de auto-leveling.....si asta indiferent de marca/model de masina.


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post 19 Jun 2010, 08:32
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Permite-mi sa te contrazic dantes. Am mers cu un Q7 care nu avea reglaj manual, doar autoleveling-ul
LE: am inteles, multumesc pentru lamurire R19

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post 19 Jun 2010, 08:35
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Chiar daca dantes nu s-a exprimat tocmai corect, are dreptate.
El se refera la reglajul direct pe far, care exista la orice masina.


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post 19 Jun 2010, 09:30
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QUOTE(balanel @ 19 Jun 2010, 02:57)
De asemenea nu stiu cate sisteme de origine pot regla in timp real inaltimea la fiecare denivelare a drumului, pe cand la un reglaj manual pot da mai jos daca e nevoie.
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Dar cine a spus ca trebuie sa faca asa ceva?


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post 19 Jun 2010, 18:18
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http://www.reno.ro/index.php?act=ST&f=83&t...30#entry2491728

Gata,mai multe detalii acolo se gasesc icon_mrgreen.gif
Mai trebuie sa fac un drum seara sa fiu multumit 100%,acum sunt 99% wub.gif


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post 26 Jun 2010, 21:24
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Gata, m-am hotarat: imi pun xenon pe meganelul meu, am luat decizia asta de aseara de cand mi s-a ars un Osram nightbreaker, cumparate cam de nici un an de zile sad.gif
In fine...am pus altul mai ieftin in locul celui ars si facand mai bine comparatia, cel de 20ron e cam acelasi ca si celalalt mai scump Osram.

Vreau sa-mi iau un kit de xenoane, de 35W si 6000K dar nu stiu de care, fiind o gramada de tipuri,preturi...
In principiu cam toate tipurile si de producatori diferiti, ar trebui sa aiba aceasi intensitate nu ?? ma refer la 35W si 6000k.
Am gasit asa ceva, oare chiar SIEMENS sa fie...? s-au cam toate sunt chinezarii??
http://www.xenonhid.ro/index.php/vmchk/kit...siemens-35w.php
Si o intrebare: trebuie gaurite capacele de la faruri pentru introducerea firelor? asa am auzit.


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post 26 Jun 2010, 22:08
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Nu vezi nimic cu alea de 6000k.


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post 26 Jun 2010, 22:09
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siemens si philips nu fac kituri de xenon. deci ce gasesti sub marca siemens si philips sunt fake-uri. chinezarii sunt toate, orice kit, orice marca ar scrie pe el e chinezarie. totul e o loterie de noroc. poti sa nimeresti un kit bun care sa te tina mult, sau poti sa nimeresti un kit prost care dupa cateva luni sa inceapa sa pice ori un bec, ori un balast.

LE: da, trebuie date gauri in capacele de la faruri pentru a trece firele care alimenteaza becul si balastul.

cu cele de 6000k nu vezi bine pe ploaie, in rest daca sunt reglate bine vezi perfect.

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QUOTE(Adrian00 @ 26 Jun 2010, 22:08)
Nu vezi nimic cu alea de 6000k.
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Mercy de raspuns, ce ma sfatuiti mai jos de 6000k? ar fi mai bine intre 4000 si 5500? ca mai jos deja e galbuie.Nu vreau chiar galbuie smile.gif


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post 26 Jun 2010, 22:22
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Ti-am dat PM.

Eu am avut de 6000k si nu m-am "inteles" cu lumina lor,acum am de 4300k si wub.gif ,daca vrei ceva mai spre albastru..5000k.


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Aha, am inteles! mercy rcosmin si Adrian00.Deci ziceti sa nu depasesc max 5000k, asta in sensul sa fie ok si pe uscat si pe ploaie.


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banuiesc ca ai instalatie de spalata faruri sau iti montezi cind pui si xenonul.


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