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post 29 Mar 2015, 18:59
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Mai trebuie tinut cont si de dimensiunea mica a rotilor si rapoartele scurte ale cutiei. Masina trage cu mult peste altele ce au 80cp din fabrica.


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post 29 Mar 2015, 19:15
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Corect, dar trage pana la un punct, dupa se plafoneaza, tocmai din cauza rapoartelor. Daca ai schimba motorul cu totul, sa pui unul de 1 litru ce s-a pus pe unele matizuri facute prin alte parti, si il modifici pe ala, e mult mai potent, fata de asta de o.8 oltenesc, care e penal, nu are potential.

QUOTE(pishky @ 28 Mar 2015, 22:25)
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Exista ceva numit raport putere/greutate, hp/tona, dar nu aveai cum sa auzi de asa ceva, ca nu ai timp de bagat in seama aiurea.

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post 29 Mar 2015, 19:26
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Oricum nu prea avem sosele pt asa ceva, mai important mi se pare la o masina cum se comporta in depasiri si nu daca prinde viteze de boeing.

La Matiz vitezele in sine sunt etajate foarte ok, doar 5 este overdrive, viteza mica per treapta vine din raportul diferentialul de 4.44. Altul prin zona 4 sau chiar mai putin ar fi o modificare zic eu corecta pt momentul cand puterea va mai creste, pana atunci limita maxima teoretica de 174 km/h cu noile pneuri mi se pare suficient.

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Numai sa tina, al meu la 60.000 km consuma 1 litru intre schimburi, si avea si zgomotul ala specific de monezi in cutie de conserva, nu mi-a facut o impresie buna deloc versiunea copiata de romani.


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QUOTE(argon @ 29 Mar 2015, 19:15)

Exista ceva numit raport putere/greutate, hp/tona, dar nu aveai cum sa auzi de asa ceva, ca nu ai timp de bagat in seama aiurea.
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post 30 Mar 2015, 08:42
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QUOTE(pishky @ 29 Mar 2015, 21:11)
te rog explica-mi, uite, imi fac timp sa citesc, daca esti amabil sa imi explci.
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Performantele dinamice, adica cum se misca, in general sunt date de raportul putere/greutate, daca tot iti arde de comparatii cu mine, dupa modificari a adus-o la aprox acelasi raport cu meganul de 1.4. Cutie mult prea scurta, am si eu, si ma deranjeaza treaba asta, pe drept pot sa ajung la limitare in treeapta 5(186 km/h pe gps si 200 pe bord), si ceea ce nu-mi place e turatia cam mare la 130 km/h cat e legal pe autostrada.

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QUOTE(argon @ 30 Mar 2015, 08:42)
si ceea ce nu-mi place e turatia cam mare la 130 km

Schimba pinionul de la a-5-a sau mergi sub viteza maxima de 130 Km.


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Ma gandeam, dar la 128 Nm cuplu, o sa consume mai mult daca e turatia mai mica, decat turata.


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QUOTE(argon @ 30 Mar 2015, 13:26)
Ma gandeam, dar la 128 Nm cuplu, o sa consume mai mult daca e turatia mai mica, decat turata.
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QUOTE(argon @ 30 Mar 2015, 08:42)
Performantele dinamice, adica cum se misca, in general sunt date de raportul putere/greutate, daca tot iti arde de comparatii cu mine, dupa modificari a adus-o la aprox acelasi raport cu meganul de 1.4. Cutie mult prea scurta, am si eu, si ma deranjeaza treaba asta, pe drept pot sa ajung la limitare in treeapta 5(186 km/h pe gps si 200 pe bord), si ceea ce nu-mi place e turatia cam mare la 130 km/h cat e legal pe autostrada.
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post 5 Apr 2015, 14:04
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Daca ai schimba  motorul cu totul, sa pui unul de 1 litru ce s-a pus pe unele matizuri facute prin alte parti, si il modifici pe ala, e mult mai potent, fata de asta de o.8 oltenesc, care e penal, nu are potential.


Aici gresesti. Motorul de 1L este mai putin indicat, are cu totul alte specificatii, o banda de putere semnificativ mai mica decat acesta de 0.8, chiar turatia de putere maxima este cu vreo 600 rpm mai scazuta. La asta de 0.8, cu o ajustare din turbo sa faca presiune sub 3000, si o alta axa care sa ridice turatia de putere maxima peste 6000......potentialul este mai mare aici, mult peste cel de 1L, daca ne referim strict la conversia turbo.

Si mai e un trick, la mine scaderea de putere dupa turatia Pmax este mica astfel incat deja trage pana in limitare - 6400 rpm - pe toate treptele (mai putin 5 unde nu am testat inca pt ca sincer nu vad rostul). Ca sa-l faci pe celalalt sa se comporte similar este o munca de chinez care nu se justifica pt 200 cc in plus.

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Am bifat inca o prezenta la Tulcea Drag Racing; chiar daca upgrade-ul de putere inca nu a venit (asadar masina inca are doar 80 bhp), diferenta de timp data de un ambreiaj rodat cum trebuie si pneuri bune fata de run-ul din septembrie anul trecut este de 0.814 secunde.

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60 FT: 2.474
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