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Tipul de ulei folosit!, Dupa cati km este recomandat schimbul?

madhorsefuzzy
post 19 May 2015, 09:25
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Mai am eu 1l de Solaris acasa de acum 2 ani. Daca il amestec la anul cu 7l de full-tech se supara?


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post 19 May 2015, 10:55
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post 19 May 2015, 18:50
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nu ti-as recomanda, nu faci mare economie cu 1L.


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post 19 May 2015, 18:56
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Mai aveti un an sa va hotarati. =))


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post 19 May 2015, 20:40
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Eu n-am la ce sa ma hotarasc. Am amestecat atatea uleiuri la viata mea, incat am curajul sa afirm ca uleiurile moderne se amesteca foarte bine indiferent de firma, daramite din aceeasi curte. Si nu oricum, ci cu carter/capac culbutori date jos si studiate. Despre restul utilizatorilor, cine stie ce combinatii extraordinare intre uleiuri de gatit si uleiuri de motor or fi facut, daca nu recomanda... Iar un ulei de 1 an de zile, pastrat in ambalajul original, eventual la loc cat mai ferit de factori externi (dar nu obligatoriu) se prezinta ca unul nou.

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post 19 May 2015, 20:58
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Poti sa le amesteci fara grija mai complicat e la golfuri si fabia unde pot aparea pe iarna niste complicatii ca spumare , codens sau chiar mai grav bulirea motorului.La megane nu ai de aface cu aceste probleme.


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post 20 May 2015, 21:18
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Eu sunt hotarat ca pana pe 15 iunie sa am motorul reparat, cu inlocuire de pistoane si segmenti.Ce ma enerveaza cel mai mult e faptul ca acest consum de ulei a aparut imediat ce am trecut la ELF-ul din noul ambalaj, si acum nu mai asa incredere in acest ulei...parca as incerca un Mobil....


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post 20 May 2015, 21:29
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Omule ce motor ai?


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post 20 May 2015, 22:50
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si ce treaba are uleiul cu faptul ca ai un defect la motor?


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post 21 May 2015, 11:54
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k9k 722, consuma ulei 1l/2000km, fum alb la rece, miros de ulei ars, turbo schimbat, simeringuri supape inlocuite.
Problema a aparut la scurt timp dupa ce am facut schimbul de ulei cu acelasi ELF 10W40, dar in noul ambalaj.
Masina in rest merge perfect, consum sub 4% in afara orasului, nimic altceva de reprosat


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post 21 May 2015, 12:01
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Se mai plângeau aici, pe forum și alții de Elful nou. Tot legat de consum ulei.


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post 21 May 2015, 12:55
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Avand in vedere cat de repede a trecut de la maxim 200 g ulei consumati intre schimburi la 1l/2000 km, inclin sa cred ca e din ulei, probabil segmentii
raclori sunt de vina deoarece compresia este foarte buna


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post 21 May 2015, 16:21
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QUOTE(meganus_bicorpus @ 20 May 2015, 22:18)
Eu  sunt hotarat ca pana pe 15 iunie sa am motorul reparat, cu inlocuire de pistoane si segmenti.Ce ma enerveaza cel mai mult e faptul ca acest consum de ulei a aparut imediat ce am trecut la ELF-ul din noul ambalaj, si acum nu mai asa incredere in acest ulei...parca as incerca un Mobil....
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Deci mai bine sa bagi 3000 de lei, decat sa mai "risti" un schimb de "altceva" in afara de elf... Totusi, nu-mi explic (si cred ca nici tu) cum apare uzura asta asa, deodata. Dar, pana la urma banii sunt ai tai, iar banii sunt facuti sa circule ...

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post 21 May 2015, 17:26
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lasa, fa experimente cu 10w40 , in loc sa bagi 5w40, dar na , Elf-ul e de vina, brusc a stricat motorul smile.gif)


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post 21 May 2015, 17:37
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Incearca si altceva dar daca faci motorul baga totusi 5w40.


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post 22 May 2015, 07:48
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Eu v-am zis ca mai bine de 200k de km masina asta a mers cu elf10w40 si nu a consumat mai nimic intre schimburi, consumul marit l-am simtit dupa ce am trecut la elf-ul cu ambalaj schimbat, poate e coincidenta, poate nu.
Din toate masinile de la firma, si ma refer in special la Loganuri diesel, toate merg cu ulei Dacia 10w40 si nu am avut astfel de probleme, am doua masini sarite de 400k km care nu consuma nici acum gram de ulei.


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post 22 May 2015, 11:08
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oricum ar fi, problema e la motor, nu are legatura cu uleiul. Orice ulei ai pune daca motorul e ok, nu tb sa consume vizibil pe joja in 10mii km.


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post 22 May 2015, 11:56
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Schimba uleiul tu simti cel mai bine masina.Daca simti ca ceva nu e in regula schimba nu ai nimic de pierdut.Bafta!!!


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post 22 May 2015, 12:38
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Din acest motiv vreau sa intervin la motor, e clar ca uleiul meu ramane in camera de ardere si este ars.vreau sa schimb pistoanele cu tot cu segmenti, distributia oricum trebuia facuta acum la 240k km.


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post 22 May 2015, 14:27
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Te rog, fii cinstit cu feedback-ul cu care o sa apari dupa ce faci RK la motor. Adica sa spui exact ce-ai gasit. Ceva oricum nu e in regula acolo.


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post 22 May 2015, 15:59
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Azi am facut schimbul de ulei la reprezentanta.
Ulei Elf Evolution RN-Tech 5W40 - inlocuitorul vechiului Evolution 900 SXR
E nou aparut pe piata

http://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esr...d1Db6BnOwXSrz2Q


GAMME RENAULT ELF EVOLUTION RN-TECH
SPÉCIALEMENT CONÇUE POUR
RENAULT & DACIA

http://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esr...P1t_vTRI7ajxWAA

A mai folosit cineva?

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post 22 May 2015, 16:45
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Eu sunt la al2-lea schimb este f bun..parerea mea !!


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post 22 May 2015, 16:52
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E o mica confuzie cu inlocuirea.....sxr 900 e de la Brasov.Cestalalt nu cred dar merg in paralel pe piata noastra.De ce am senzatia ca e acelasi amestec magic?


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post 23 May 2015, 02:18
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Elf Evolution RN Tech 5w40 nu este mai mult pentru motoarele pe benzina pe cand SXR 5w40 pentru diesel? Amandoua au SN/CF insa din descrierea lor s-ar subintelege ca RN-Tech 5w40 este pentru benzina si SXR 5w40 conceput pentru diesel

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salut la toata lumea,mi-am cumparat de curand un Renault Scenic II cu motor de 1.9.imi apare pe computer service 23000 km,ce inseamna?mai am 23000 sa schimb distributia sau uleiul? masina are 150000 km si am citit in carte ca distributia se schimba la 90000 km.specific ca sunt in Germania poate aici e altfel ca in Romania dar as vrea un sfat.
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post 26 May 2015, 11:09
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Ulei si filtre dar schimba la 15000 si verifica macar vizual distributia.


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post 26 May 2015, 11:51
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QUOTE(oves @ 23 May 2015, 04:18)
Elf Evolution RN Tech 5w40 nu este mai mult pentru motoarele pe benzina pe cand SXR 5w40 pentru diesel? Amandoua au SN/CF  insa din descrierea lor s-ar subintelege ca RN-Tech 5w40 este pentru benzina si SXR 5w40  conceput pentru diesel
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In brosurile atasate nu pomeneste nicaieri ca ar fi pt benzina sau diesel.



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post 26 May 2015, 12:04
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Eu cu asta am mers 240k km...din descriere pare o alegere foarte buna, torusi trebuie sa fac reparatie generala la motor acum...poate nu e vina uleiului...
http://www.elf.com/consumers/car-oil/car-e...sel-10w-40.html


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post 26 May 2015, 12:04
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Pai la 10W40 au schimbat doar ambalajul si denumirea. smile.gif

Bine cu mici variatii de la an la an in functie de ce ulei mineral au gasit pe piata sa il bage inauntru.


Grosut rau RN Tech 5W40.

Plus ca imi place marketing-ul cu RN Tech. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(jimmycj73 @ 26 May 2015, 09:58)
salut la toata lumea,mi-am cumparat de curand un Renault Scenic II cu motor de 1.9.imi apare pe computer service 23000 km,ce inseamna?mai am 23000 sa schimb distributia sau uleiul? masina are 150000 km si am citit in carte ca distributia se schimba la 90000 km.specific ca sunt in Germania poate aici e altfel ca in Romania dar as vrea un sfat.
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eu recomand schimbarea uleiului la 10mii / 1 an si a filtrului de motorina la 20 (deci la 2 schimburi de ulei).

Ce iti arata in bord e un reminder, se poate seta pe diagnoza la cat vrei tu, eu l-am pus la 10 mii sau 12 luni , si cu o mie inainte ma evertizeaza (service due), iar cand ajung la 0 imi apare mereu mesajul (service now).


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