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Schimbarea treptelor de viteza, stil de condus

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post 3 Sep 2009, 11:34
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Am scris ca facem exceptie de limita de viteza, trafic etc si ne limitam la portiunile de drum mai libere acolo unde se poate vedea ce stil de condus pretati la reno laguna.

Nu ma intereseaza ca in treapta a 3a ai depasit viteza legala la un anumit numar de turatii.Cum era de asteptat toti ati calcat in offtopic.

Reformulez: In trafic (ca tot va place prin oras cu tot tacamaul, pietoni, pisici, catei etc) mergi cu a 2a in 3000-3200 ture unde ai in jur de 45-50Km/h sau urci in treapta a 3a in si o tii pe la 2000rot/min fara sa depasesti limita legala?

Pentru mine in oras e clar.Voi adapta viteza la conditiile traficului incercand sa nu subturez motorul dar nici sa-l tin turat doar de dragul de a fi turat in 3400 ture(asa fara rost).


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post 3 Sep 2009, 12:21
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In general:
- trec in tr.2 cand in tr.1 am 1500 - 2000 rpm
- in rest, schimb undeva intre 2500 si 3000 rpm.
- o tin, cat se poate, undeva la 2000-2200 rpm.


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post 3 Sep 2009, 12:40
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QUOTE(Johnny78 @ 3 Sep 2009, 11:00)
bun, deci:

treapta 1 la 900 rpm (plecam de pe loc)
treapta 2 la 2500 rpm (deja un 30-40 kmh)
treapta 3 la 3000 rpm (deja 50)
treapta 4 la 3000 rpm (sarim din limita legala in oras)
treapta 5 la 3500 rpm (avem deja 110-115 kmh)

in treapta 5 la 3200 are undeva la 135 KMH deci depasesc limita de viteza pe autostrada. la 3500 in a 5-a am deja peste 140, iar la 4000 discut pe la 160 kmh

concluzia o trageti voi, motorul e de 2000 in 8 supape
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Johnny, nu am inteles. Schimbi in treapta a doua cand ai in treapta intai 2500 rpm si 30-40, sau in treapta a 2-a ai, la 2500 rpm 30-40 km/h ?

In orice caz, bag de seama ca masina ta fuge nu gluma, daca la 4000 rpm ai 160 km/h. Eu pe la 5500 (treapta a 5-a) ajung la viteza asta.

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post 3 Sep 2009, 12:42
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pai nu'i normal nenea? are motor mare, cuplu mai mare, accepta o cutie mai lunga... wink.gif
tu ce sa faci la motor de 1.6 cu o cutie lunga? nu ai avea cuplu sa urci nici dealul, iar in panta in a 5'a ti'ar scadea viteza ca la matiz. wink.gif


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post 3 Sep 2009, 12:46
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Johnny triseaza. Are motor nou smile.gif

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post 3 Sep 2009, 15:06
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Evident ca nu are rost sa ti motorul turat la 3500 constant (decat in a 5-a, ca n-ai de ales). Dc merg cu 50 a 3-a, dc merg cu 60 constant a 4-a, simplu, nu cade sub 2000. Mie-mi baga limitare la 100 in a 2-a (intre 95-100 defapt), motor 1.6.
La 1.6, panta si a 5-a , dc mai esti si incarcat si asa scade, sa nu zic ca cu pedala la podea nici in a 4-a nu aceelereaza nu stiu ce .


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post 4 Sep 2009, 01:26
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bogdyMND iti doresc drumuri in romania unde sa poti merge constant cu 3500 in a5a...asa 150-200 km (nu la ora) intins. wub.gif


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post 4 Sep 2009, 10:37
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Ca sa nu mai deschid un topic nou ca tot e vorba de schimbarea treptelor de viteza, deci implicit are legatura si cu acceleratia:

Pedala de acceleratie......la mine, cel putin, am senzatia ca e slabita.Sau poate asa trebuie sa fie.Daca bag piciorul sub pedala de acceleratie (stand pe loc) aceasta se ridica cativa centimetri in sus.Nu stiu daca este normal acest lucru.Ma gandesc ca ar mai trebui strans cablul de acceleratie.La voi cum sta pedala?

In cazul in care trebuie "strans" cablul de acceleratie de unde mai exact se face acest lucuru? Eventual 2-3 poze nu ar strica.


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QUOTE(zet105 @ 4 Sep 2009, 11:37)
In cazul in care trebuie "strans" cablul de acceleratie de unde mai exact se face acest lucuru? Eventual 2-3 poze nu ar strica.

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post 4 Sep 2009, 11:45
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@strumfuadi multumesc pentru foto si explicatie.

Acest joc pe verticala (2-3cm) al pedalei de acceleratie este normal sa existe?Il mai au si alti posesori de laguna 1?
La masina de servici cand bag piciorul sub pedala nu prezinta nici un joc.Deci....? sad.gif Acu si diferenta de varsta e considerabila intre cele doua masini.Ma gandesc ca la lagunica mea cu trecerea timpului s-a slabit cablul.Pareri?


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post 4 Sep 2009, 11:56
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La mine nu e nici un joc.


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post 4 Sep 2009, 12:01
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Si la mine face exact la fel.
Exact ca la un tractoar vechi radmasa.gif , daca vrei sa il opresti bagi piciorul sub pedala si ridici.
Pedala era asa de cand am luat masina, si asa a ramas.
Nu m-am gandit pana acum sa strang cablul, m-am invatat cu ea asa. biggrin.gif.


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post 4 Sep 2009, 12:07
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Nu am inteles partea cu tractorul dar in sfarsit.La mine nu se blocheaza pedala sau ceva de genul (sa fiu nevoit sa introduc piciorul sub pedala).Atat am observat ca la rece pedala se ridica fara probleme 2cm.
Asa era si la mine de cand am luato.Nu imi face probleme dar cred ca nu e normal sa aiba acest joc.


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post 4 Sep 2009, 12:17
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Si cum se strange mai exact?
Ca ma tenteaza si pe mine sa incerc si eu.
Oare dupa ce strang cablu se va observa ceva diferenta cand e la "blana".?


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post 4 Sep 2009, 12:21
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Pai citeste un pic mai sus ca a pus strumfuadi o poza cu "potentiometrul" de unde se poate regla/strange cablul de acceleratie.Momentan sunt la servici dar sa vad poate rezolv si eu problema mai pe seara


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post 4 Sep 2009, 14:00
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la mine pedala face la fel de cand am luat masina,dar nu ma deranjeaza cu nimic.Sa fie asta cea mai mare belea.


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pana in prezent 3 la 1 (3 pedale cu joc si una fixa, fara joc) cum e normal sa fie?

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Rico e exceptia care confirma regula tongue.gif .

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Si la mine este asa, cu joc de vreo 2-3cm, eu cred ca asa trebuie sa fie ca altfel nu ar merge cu vit max care scrie in carte, am mers cu 195 (eu zic ca ar merge pana pe la 205 pana ar intra limitatoru) si nu eram cu pedala la podea, deci daca ar sta mai sus (pana unde are joc) cu cat ar merge?


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Eu mi-am reglat pedala.Din cei 3cm de joc care ii avea acu a ramas foarte, foarte putin.Imi place mai mult asa.Sper sa nu influenteze si consumul.

@cristicristutu dar protectia de sub pedala de acceleratie ai scoso?daca o dai si pe aia la o parte cine stie la ce viteza ajungi biggrin.gif

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Si la mine se ridica pedala, si cred ca mai mult de 3-4 cm.
AdiR5, si eu as vre asa drumuri, dar totusi la 3500 nu am decat vreo 120-130, si pt perioade scurte poti tine.
P.S In ultima treapta nu intra nici o limitare, dar stai linistit, te limiteaza aerul.

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corect!

..am o banuiala: a ta e benzinar 1.6? ... asa imi explic raportul turatie/viteza.


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Da, 1.6, ca dc era diesel sarea cu mult de viteza posibila chiar si pe autostrada.


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Cum adica ? Ce intelegi prin termenul "viteza posibila" ?


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Vroiam sa zic viteza de bun simt, nu cu mult peste viteza maxima legala. (max 30km/h peste)


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rico,pe la 3500,dci bate undeva la 160...viteza ilegala... in a5a.


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O fi, dar 3500 la dci corespunde la o turatie mai mare la benzina.


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Tr3 - ~2200 rpm - 50 kmh
Tr4 - ~2200 rpm - 60 kmh
Tr5 - ~2200 rpm - 70 kmh
~2500 rpm - 80 kmh


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Am testat ieri. In treapta I, la 3000 rpm am 23 km/h. In treapta a II-a, la 3000 rpm am 45 km/h.

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cred ca acele tale nu stau bine pe cadrane...si la oltcit aveam mai mult in conditiile date...

6 Sep 2009, 23:27:
...si poate de aceea tu nu mergi mai mult de 170...

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