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Ce facea un Megane R 26 pe Nurburgring?

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post 26 Jun 2008, 17:52
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Pai..daca e sa ne luam dupa baietii astia dadea peste cap niste timpi...

Renault Megane R 26 R ( ca nu s-au hotarat inca asupra modelului) a scos un timp de 8 min si 13 secunde pe Nurburgring.

Acum m-am gandit si eu ca n-ar fi mare lucru. Dar apoi am vazut lista asta:

8:03 Porsche 911 GT3 360 PS/1391 kg
8:03 Honda NSX-R (NA1) 280 PS/1230
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8:05 BMW M3 E92 420 PS/1608 kg12/07
8:06 Subaru WRX STi Spec-C 280 PS/1370
8:07 BMW Z8 E52 400 PS/1615 kg
8:09 Audi RS4 420 PS
8:09 BMW M6 E63 507 PS/
8:09 Honda NSX-R 320 PS/1467 kg
8:10 Chrysler Viper GTS
8:13 BMW M5 E60 507 PS
8:13 Ferrari 355 GTB
8:22* Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo
8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 280 PS/1430 kg
8:22 BMW M3 E46 343 PS/1584
8:22 BMW M Coupe E36/7 321 PS/1445 kg
8:24 Audi S5 354 PS/1718 kg
8:24 Subaru Impreza Sport Auto 05/04 Sport tires
8:25 Lotus Exige S 243 PS/xxx
8:25 Jaguar XKR
8:25 Porsche Cayman S
8:24 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI Sport tires
8:25 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII Sport tires
8:26 BMW 335i E92 Coupe 306 PS
8:26 Nissan 350Z 290 PS
8:28 Porsche 911 Carrera (993) 272 PS
8:32 Porsche Boxster S 252 PS
8:38 Honda NSX
8:39 Honda S2000
8:39 Mazdaspeed3(MPS) 260 PS/1403 kg
8:40 Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic 344 PS/1505 kg
8:42 Lotus Exige Mk1 179PS/796KG Sport tires
8:47 Honda Civic Type-R 200PS/1204KG
8:49 Volkswagen Golf R32 250PS/1591KG
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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:00
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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:02
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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:06
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Pe mine ma intriga cum ar scoate timp mai bun decat acele Porsche, care desi sunt aproape cele mai slabute ca si performante de la Porsche, sunt totusi, masini sport veritabile.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:09
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- nu este nimic greu de crezut... masina a fost usurata drastic, o multime de componente ale masinii sunt din carbon... avand in vedere traditia Renault in lumea curselor de orice fel nu este nimic greu de crezut... raportul cal/kg si-a spus cuvantul...


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:11
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Apropo, doamne cum se aude in acel clip... Daca intr-adevar performantele sunt pe bune si va fi sub 30k va rupe tot.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:11
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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:13
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mda.. R26 are 230 de cai.. asta are 255 si 125 kg mai putin, deci cam 1150-1200kg, restu` au minim 2 tone.. oricum astept intotdeauana un R34 GTR sa fie batut de un Reno.. in afara de cel de F1 radmasa.gif fiti seriosi wink.gif
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ps 2: din public mi s-a soptit ca soferul R26 era bogdan1978buc, care are 50 de kg si un talent innascut de a da in gura masinii smile.gif, iar in restul era BigEdy, asa se explica totul mellow.gif


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:14
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- poate e cazul sa va aduceti aminte de Laguna 1 care in BTCC batea nume sonore sinonime cu masini sport...


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:17
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Daca aceasta masina intr-adevar se va usura pe masini gen S5, Porsche, etc... atunci sigur se "va auzi" in presa despre asta si se vor face teste obiective... Deci ramane de vazut.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:23
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Asa cum se zice in articol....in principiu se vorbeste despre o caroserie de Megane care e propulsata de icon_mrgreen.gif ceva icon_mrgreen.gif pe celebrul circuit...cum nu stim ce sasiu avea, motor, transmisii si nu mai stiu ce.....

Plus ca imi aduc aminte de o stire cu M 3 cu un tuning de maxim 20.000 de euro care a luat Veyron-ul pe acelasi circuit....

Cert este ca la Londra va fi adus Megane R 26 Surface care e deja altceva fata de R 26!


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:25
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Pai Surface pare exact R26.R


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:27
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Nu chiar....in materialul din primul post se zice ca "deși sursele sunt contradictorii, făcând referire la două nume diferite, R26.R sau Megane Sport Edition Ultima" ori cu Surface avem deja 3 modele.....


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:31
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Eu zic ca vorbim despre un singur model. Cel pe care l-am vazut in clipul video pe Nurburgring.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:34
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Posibil...dar eu stiam ca Surface va avea 230 CP..in articol se zice 255 CP...in fine...ramane sa aflam mai multe despre ce s-a intamplat acolo si ne lamurim...


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:34
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Ma baieti, greu cu engleza asta, nu ? Nu exista modelul "surface," cuvantul e din articolul original care spune "first photos of the R26.R surface," adica primele poze ies la suprafata, "surface" fiind verb...

Deci da, vorbiti de acelasi model.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:37
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Posibil si asta....dar cum ziceam....230 CP, 255 CP, timpul ala de pe circuit...


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:39
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Cum "posibil" ?????

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080606.013/fi...e-r26-r-surface

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First Photos of Renault Megane R26 R Surface

Although we were not meant to see it yet, British site Autocar has manage to obtain a couple of low-res images of the Renault Megane R26 R which is scheduled to be unveiled at the London Motor Show next month.

The R26 R is the most extreme Megane ever built – we can best describe it as a road legal track car. Much of the regular R26 model still remains intact including the 230hp 2.0 turbo engine and the limited slip differential, but the main focus of the R26 R has been on weight reduction. The stock model has been stripped of all non-essential components and some of the heavy body panels have been replaced with lighter materials including a carbon fibre hood along with polycarbonate windows. The changes result in a reduction of overall dry weight by around 125kg over the regular R26 and ultimately improved performance with the 0-62mph figure now reduced by over half a second to just shy of 6 seconds.

The R26 R will go on sale later this year with prices expected to begin at £24,000.


^ Asta e articolul original, nu spune nicaieri de "surface" decat in titlu, unde e verbul de care am spus si nu numele Megane-ului.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:42
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Atunci asa o fi...nu mai zicem Surface si ramanem la R 26 R. Happy?


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:42
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Nu e vorba daca sunt eu "Happy" sau nu, dar era o informatie falsa. Dar da, acum e ok biggrin.gif

Oricum vad ca vina e in primul rand a celor de pe autoblog-ul ala romanesc sau ce e, ca ei au scris "Surface" la nume


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post 26 Jun 2008, 18:44
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Oricum nu se stiu prea multe informatii exacte despre noul model. Ce mi se pare mie cel mai ciudat este ca nea Ghosn a aprobat dezvoltarea unui asemenea model de nisa, banii cheltuiti neaducand cine stie ce avantaje.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 19:07
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Ah..ce bine ca nu esti sef la Reno ssilviu..nu mai faceau aia nimic...acum lasand gluma...de ce nu?


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Eu zic sa va luati dupa baietii astia, nu dupa baietii de la prostmotor (info a aparut prima data http://www.reno.ro/index.php?showtopic=116...post&p=1432064).

http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60892

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post 26 Jun 2008, 20:13
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Ringu' e destul de stanjenitor pentru multe masini sport.De exemplu modelele Ferrari nu au timpi straluciti.

In general scot timpi foarte buni masini a caror prformante sunt foarte usor de exploatat, asta pentru ca e in circuit lung si cred eu ca necesita un pilotaj mai instinctiv decat pe un circuit de 4km.

Si asa se explica si faptul ca un Ferrari scoate timpi destui de mici, pentru ca se stie ca sunt destul de "demanding" iar la limita sunt necrutatoare.


La 1.1 tone si cu niste gume mai non standard..nu ar fi deloc surprinzator. Si Ringu e destul de ingust, lucru care favorizeaza un hatch.

Poate va aduceti aminte de episodul din Top Gear in care Sabine Schmitz a scos vreo 10 minute pe Ring cu un Ford Transit.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 21:31
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Va rog, fara Top Gear ca exemplu pentru ca mie imi suna la fel cu ceva gen "Dupa cum ati vazut in Terminator 2, se poate sari cu un Harley de pe pod" ...

Top Gear e o emisiune foarte tare dar si foarte falsa, si de popcorn. Da, ma amuza, da, o urmaresc cu interes dar nu, nu o putem folosi ca exemplu... Mai ales in cursele lor care sunt segmentele cele mai regizate...


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post 26 Jun 2008, 21:38
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Ce nu e credibil aici?



Adica de ce crezi ca TG te pacaleste cu niste facaturi ca sa te uiti dar Renault nu te pacaleste cu timpul scos...ca sa iti vanda masina?

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post 26 Jun 2008, 21:52
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Nu vreau sa intru in alte dezbateri absolut off-topic. Ideea e, Top Gear e o emisiune de divertisment, nu una informativa, nu crede tot ce vezi acolo.


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post 26 Jun 2008, 21:57
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Ideea e ca Renault face masini sa le vanda, si probabil si treaba asta e marketing iar tu daca iei o masina de-asta si pui acelasi pilot in ea n-ai sa atingi performantele astea.

Sau o sa reusesti in aceiasi masura in care si astia de la TG reusesc biggrin.gif


LE:Pe unu chiar la deranjat ce-am spus si am primit rep negativa radmasa.gif

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Bai pana la urma cred ca e vorba de vreo 10 modele ia uitati aici ce de modele diferite... si mai e unu negru dar mi-a fost lene sa mai iau si poza cu ala ...



P.S.: M-am spart de ras la faza cu modelul Surface ... mult prea amuzant

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@Arhimede: Stii ce mi se pare de-a dreptul ciudat in filmuletul asta cu dubita??...cum e posibil sa alergi cu ditamai sifonierul, pe un circuit, fara o casca in cap??


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