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Test comparativ MCV - Roomster

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post 15 Nov 2007, 10:25
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http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tests/v...07898_13987.hbs

io zic ca aici nemtii ne-au fentat un pic.........oricum remarca diferenta de 6000 de euroi intre cele doua masini din est......


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post 15 Nov 2007, 10:27
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Pacat ca nu au dat raport pret/puncte. Unde Loganul castiga zdrobitor.


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post 15 Nov 2007, 10:38
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Parerea mea, hac!

MCV:
+ e mai mare
+ are 7 locuri
+ loc in ea sa bagi cosciugu'
+ usi in spate
+ pretul
+ garda mare la sol
+ ampatament
- e mai urata (discutabil)
- motoare diesel mai slabe, lipsa unui motor de 100CP diesel


Roomster
+ arata mai cool
+ motorul diesel 1,9TDI/105CP
+ finisaje si dotari
+ mai scurta deci mai practica in oras
- 5 locuri numai
- scumpa

In opinia mea adevaratul concurent a lui ROOMSTER e Renault Kangoo si nu LGN MCV. Eu personal as alege un Logan MCV cu 5 locuri si cu motor 1.9TDI dar nu se poa.

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post 15 Nov 2007, 10:40
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QUOTE(dizzy @ 15 Nov 2007, 10:38)
- motoare diesel mai slabe, lipsa unui motor de 100CP diesel


Din cate am inteles eu din linkul ala, au fost testate 1,4 tdi de 80 de cai si 1,5 dci de 85 de cai. A iesit mai prost Loganul la motorizare? Cum asa?

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post 15 Nov 2007, 10:41
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post 15 Nov 2007, 10:43
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corect e motorul 1,4 de 80 de cai in test........


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post 15 Nov 2007, 12:50
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Mi se pare ca motorul de 1.4 TDI 80Cp de la skoda e in 3 cilindri.


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post 15 Nov 2007, 12:58
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Cum sa zic ... mcv-ul castiga doar la spatiu (mai lunga de fapt) si la pret. In rest este prastie pe langa Romster. Chiar daca design-ul este mai ciudatel.


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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:13
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 15 Nov 2007, 12:58)
In rest este prastie pe langa Romster.
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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:32
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Bine ca acum am ajuns sa comparam Skoda cu Dacia. radmasa.gif


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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:41
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Cypher4laguna, remarca asta de unde izvoraste ? Probabil dintr-un profund studiu ...
Explica-mi atunci te rog diferentele dintre solutile tehnice aplicate pe ambele masini. Dar o iei asa frumos ... detalii exterioare, post de conducere, plansa de bord, parte fata (scaune, usi cu sistem de izolare, balamale si inchidere), parte spate, motor (suspensie motor, cadru, bileta antirotire, etc..), esapament, legatura cu solul (adica ... punte fata, punte spate), sistem de franare, insonorizare, ...

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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:47
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QUOTE(2dor @ 15 Nov 2007, 15:32)
Bine ca acum am ajuns sa comparam Skoda cu Dacia. radmasa.gif
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Pai, nu am comparat-o noi, au facut-o nemtii. Sau Skoda nu are termeni de comparatie ? O fii vre-o super masina ?


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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:49
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Da Roomster pe ce platforma e facut?


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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:50
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Pentru cine nu stie definitia "prastiei" = naspa, urat, rau de tot.

The ESP free Romanian Underdog with its mix from mode and Clio parts places in professional hand the Skoda in the driving dynamics test coldly. Differently than when driving on the highway, where the Roomster command converts clearly more precisely and the driver - if necessarily - with ESP and anti-slip regulation supports. With the Logan against it own contribution is in demand in critical situations: There is not a favourable price evenly in vain.

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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:53
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roomster este pe platforma de fabia 2

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Bine ca acum am ajuns sa comparam Skoda cu Dacia. radmasa.gif
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de ce sa nu comparam marca ieftina de la VAG cu marca ieftina de la reno???

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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:57
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QUOTE(Amedeus @ 15 Nov 2007, 14:47)
Pai, nu am comparat-o noi, au facut-o nemtii. Sau Skoda nu are termeni de comparatie ? O fii vre-o super masina ?
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Nu e o supermasina dar nici nu se coboara la nivelul daciei blush.gif


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post 15 Nov 2007, 14:59
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Pai ca nu o sa fie niciodata o comparatie intre Skoda si Dacia, poate nu stii dar Skoda Superb este mai luxoasa decat un Passat, nu prea mai e Skoda marca ieftina a lui VW, mai ales ca cehii trag tare si cam fac masini fiabile, in schimb VW cam a dat-o pe brazda.

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post 15 Nov 2007, 15:01
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Si fabia 2 vine pe aceiasi platforma cu primul model.Nimic schimbat.


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post 15 Nov 2007, 15:03
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QUOTE(Amedeus @ 15 Nov 2007, 15:47)
O fii vre-o super masina ?
pe langa emceveu chiar este masina. Nu neaparat si din prisma diferentei de pret. Daca le-am da celor de la Skoda si Renault un pret si le-am zice sa construiasca o masina, cei la Skoda or sa foloseasca solutii mai scumpe.

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post 15 Nov 2007, 15:05
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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 15 Nov 2007, 16:00)
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Sorry dar nu mai am locuri disponibile pentru discipoli.

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post 15 Nov 2007, 15:09
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imi pare rau...dar eu sunt disponibil doar la cineva de la care chiar am ceva de invatat....


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Totusi chiar nu am locuri, nu pot sa fac exceptie pentru tine...


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post 15 Nov 2007, 15:13
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QUOTE(2dor @ 15 Nov 2007, 15:59)
poate nu stii dar Skoda Superb este mai luxoasa decat un Passat

Sula cu prefectura. De Phaeton ai auzit?
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nu prea mai e Skoda marca ieftina a lui VW, mai ales ca cehii trag tare si cam fac masini fiabile, in schimb VW cam a dat-o pe brazda.

Adica si la VAG se mai strica masinile?! Incredibil, dom'le.

De acord cu ssilviu, Logan-ul are un raport value/money mult mai bun decat Roomster. Iar Skoda are plusuri care se reflecta in pret. Care-i marea nedreptate facuta de nemti?


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[quote=Bliss,15 Nov 2007, 16:13]
Sula cu prefectura. De Phaeton ai auzit?

Ideea era ca Skoda Superb e aceiasi masina cu VW Passat insa e mai lunga si mai luxoasa.


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QUOTE(Bliss @ 15 Nov 2007, 16:13)
De acord cu ssilviu, Logan-ul are un raport value/money mult mai bun decat Roomster.
Faptul ca este mai ieftina si mai mare nu inseamna ca are un raport mai bun.


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QUOTE(2dor @ 15 Nov 2007, 16:19)
QUOTE(Bliss @ 15 Nov 2007, 16:13)

Sula cu prefectura. De Phaeton ai auzit?


Ideea era ca Skoda Superb e aceiasi masina cu VW Passat insa e mai lunga si mai luxoasa.
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Asta pana apare Skoda SuperSuperb... derivat din Phaeton tongue.gif

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Eu zic ca articolul este, din nou (a se aduce aminte de testul elanului) foarte relevant si obiectiv, doar ca nu spune cate unitati a vandut Dacia la nemti si cate Skoda, sau asta o fi sursa articolului?? wacko.gif wacko.gif


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post 15 Nov 2007, 15:54
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 15 Nov 2007, 16:34)
Faptul ca este mai ieftina si mai mare nu inseamna ca are un raport mai bun.

Cand nu ai aia mii de iepuroi diferenta pentru chestii care poate-ti sunt indiferente, e raportul ideal. Personal, daca as avea bani ficsi pentru Roomster, mi-as lua Logan. Restul i-as baga in motorina si m-as plimba prin toata tara, sa o vad de la un capat la altul.
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Ideea era ca Skoda Superb e aceiasi masina cu VW Passat insa e mai lunga si mai luxoasa.

Cu 10 cm. Si daca o Skoda Superb e luxoasa, cum mama ciorilor o mai fi un RR Phantom. Luxul adevarat intr-o masina n-o sa-l gasesti sub 100.000 EUR, oricat le-ar placea unora fara atatia bani sa creada.

Noi sa fim sanatosi. Pana una alta, pe strazi sunt mult mai multe MCV-uri decat Roomstere.


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QUOTE(Bliss @ 15 Nov 2007, 16:54)
Cand nu ai aia mii de iepuroi diferenta pentru chestii care poate-ti sunt indiferente, e raportul ideal. Personal, daca as avea bani ficsi pentru Roomster, mi-as lua Logan. Restul i-as baga in motorina si m-as plimba prin toata tara, sa o vad de la un capat la altul.
Mai bine sa mergi cu ea, decat sa strangi din cur ca sa platesti ratele sau ceva de genul asta. Pentru genul asta de oameni este masina cu raport bun pret/calitate. Este doar o masina de care te folosesti de ea. Nu iti ofera absolut nici o placere a condusului.

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