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post 19 Oct 2014, 17:48
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am desfacut turbo si are cateva palete rupte si avea umpik cam mare joc.......se poate schimba axul acela cat si bucsele....???


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post 20 Oct 2014, 14:30
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nasol daca are pale rupte
Trebuie sa desfaci toata tubulatura, daca nu a u fost deja aspirate de motor!

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post 20 Oct 2014, 17:02
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Cumpara miezul de turbo sau mergi la unii care se pricep, oricum ei tot asta o sa iti schimbe daca ai pale rupte sau lovite.Avantajul la miez ar fi ca e deja echilibrat si ca nu mai dai o gramada de bani pe manopera (e undeva la 150 de lire pe ebay)


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post 20 Oct 2014, 19:38
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am gasit pe ebay cu 126E prin franta dar mie frica sa nu iau teapa oricum scrie ca am garantie un an...........pai la asta mam gandit si eu sa schimb doar miezul.....ca daca am stiut sa o desfac bucatele stiu si sa o pun inapoi:))smile.gif)
din turbo nu a mai ramas nimic nedesfacut adica na iam dat jos miezul si din miez am desfacut si axul cu paletii
biggrin.gif:biggrin.gif:D:D:))aici in romania pentru miez imi cere undeva pe la 780 ron ...


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post 21 Oct 2014, 14:15
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Vezi sa fie aceeasi serie.NU vad de ce ti-ai luat teapa daca te hotarasti sa cumperi de la un vanzator cu feedback bun.Daca ti-e frica, mergi si repara la un service specializat si asa ai si garantie.

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post 22 Oct 2014, 19:51
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am dat comanda de miez si maine imi ajunge. Maine o sa desfac si intercoolerul sa il curat si dupaia montez turbo. sper sa fie totul bine:( mia ajuns o saptamana cu masina defecta:( noroc ca o am pe a lu tata si circul cu ea ca altfel ar fi mai rau:D


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post 22 Oct 2014, 22:07
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Pune si tu ceva poze cu miezul si turbo precum si ceva preturi, nu de alta dar poate o sa ajute si pe altii la un moment dat.Ai putea chiar sa faci un mic tutorial daca ai timp si talent.


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post 22 Oct 2014, 23:05
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baga motorina si benzina calumea in intercooler sa iasa uleiul din el...


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post 23 Oct 2014, 08:17
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astazi il montez ca a ajuns piesa........ trebuie sa dau jos radiatorul de la intercooler????


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post 23 Oct 2014, 09:30
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intercoolerul este radiator.. ar fi pacat sa nu-l cureti daca tot desfaci admisia ..


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post 23 Oct 2014, 10:31
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De unde l-ai cumparat?si cat te-a costat?asa cum spuneam mai sus, ar fi ok sa dai mai multe detalii ca sa fie de ajutor altora in situatia ta.O poza face cat o mie de cuvinte wink.gif


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post 23 Oct 2014, 13:38
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acuma pe la ora 6 ajunge curierul cu piesa si ma costat 788ron cu tot cu tva si transportul 16ron din Alba Iulia
cand ajunge si il montez pun mai multe poze cu etapele....

23 Oct 2014, 13:39:
il desfac si curat tot . doar ca ii mult de desfacut:((adica na toata fata....faruri, bara , radiatorul de clima...


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post 24 Oct 2014, 18:58
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lam schimbat si nu merge:(((sad.gif((se aude un fluierat sad.gif((si nu trage masina:(((si dupa vreo 2 km se aprinde limp mode:((ce poate sa aiba?sad.gif(iam curatat egr , intercooler, toate conductele...sad.gif(si nu vrea sa mearga:(((ce poate sa aiba???sau asa face cand ii noua?sad.gif(


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post 27 Oct 2014, 13:39
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Nu asa face una noua.Esti sigur ca ai comandat ceea ce trebuia?si ca ai pus alea bine acolo?pune si tu un tester pe masina si vezi ce erori iti apar


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post 27 Oct 2014, 13:48
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Reconditionare turbina implica schimbare piese,curatare perfecta si ECHILIBRARE dinamica.....acceptand ca ai know-how.
Daca ai facut reparatia in regim "home" nu te astepta la prea multe.....in afara de "economia" realizata!


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post 27 Oct 2014, 14:33
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Daca miezul este deja echilibrat dynamic nu mai este nevoie de nici o echilibrare.Daca in schimb se cumpara kit-ul de reparatie, atunci da, este nevoie de echilibrare.In mare daca iti cumperi miezul potrivit, schimbarea lui nu e mare inginerie.

PS:Tare mi-e ca e mai mult de dialog tot topicul asta pentru ca n-am vazut o poza, n-am vazut un detaliu in legatura cu turbo, etc. astfel ca e ultima data cand imi mai dau cu parerea pe problema asta.


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post 27 Oct 2014, 17:15
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va rog sama scuzati ca nu am pus poze.... pun acuma cateva poze cu turbo vechi.ieri cand am ajuns acasa de la orada am verificat turbo si are deja palete piscate sau cum sa zic.... si are un loc unde o paleta freaca....de cand am pus turbo nu a mers nu a avut viata. el fluiera dar nu avea putere. si acuma motorul gazeaza in prostie....adica foarte mult. a facut presiune in motor incat mia scos conducta de ulei de retur de la turbo acela care intra in baia de ulei la scos afara ...si conducta de la epurator care intra in conducta care vine de la filtru de aer la fel a scoso afara si mia umplut de ulei. acuma chiar ca nustiu ce are:((


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post 27 Oct 2014, 17:38
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Reconditionarea turbinei "homemade" s-a facut bine ? Intreb asta pentru asta pentru ca , deja huh.gif , zici ca freaca palele de carcasa .


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si acuma motorul gazeaza in prostie....adica foarte mult.


Esti sigur ca vechea turbina nu a luat-o pe ulei ???

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post 27 Oct 2014, 18:05
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nu am facut eu montarea pieselor. a facuto un mecanic ca am mers cu masina la service. am stat langa el si a facut cum trebuie. am invartit si eu personal de axul cu paletele turbinei si nu a frecat niciunde ,. iar acuma o paleta freaca si vreo 3 palete sunt pitigate sau cum sa ma exprim..

27 Oct 2014, 18:06:
acestea sunt pozele cu turbina veche inainte sa pun miezul nou. la miezul nou nu am mai facut poza.
sincer nustiu ce a avut turbina veche dar acuma vad ca scoate gaze ca tractoru.

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asa se aude acuma cu turbo nou. asa sa auzit de cand am pornit masina.
si apropo nu am mers cu masina mai mult de 5km.

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Frate , la cat fum alb scoate si la cum miauna , mi-e greu sa cred ca e turbina schimbata !!! Sigur mecanicul ala se pricepe ?

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post 27 Oct 2014, 18:29
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a reparat zeci de masini nu ii prima masina pe care o repara.
cu cea veche a facut mai urat decat asta.
acuma a inceput sa scada sunetul dar nu are forta masina si cand merg sa zic asa 500m intra in limp mode:((


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si acuma fum nu mai scoate

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post 27 Oct 2014, 19:58
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Poate inca mai are ulei pe instalatie sau poate ca nu se unge cum trebuie turbina.Oricum e inadmisibil sa ti se strice imediat si miezul asta nou.


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Turbina reconditionata/noua trebuie amorsata la prima pornire prin injectarea/umplerea unei cantitati de ulei in partea superioara.....inainte de montaj conducta ulei.
Astfel la prima pornire se asigura ungerea care garanteaza viitorul turbinei....dar daca mecanicul a facut operatia pe zeci de masini trebuie sa stie asta!?
Turbina noua vine insotita de o seringa cu ulei.....special pentru "prima pornire".


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post 28 Oct 2014, 08:20
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am facut toti acesti pasi.......dece imi baga presiune foarte mare in baia de ulei????
si motoru nu are forta deloc


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Segmenti uzati.Masoara compresia.Uleiul a fost schimbat?a curat si baia de ulei?


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post 28 Oct 2014, 10:18
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baia de ulei nu am curatat dar uleiul lam schimbat. am bagat castrol magnatec 10w40
ii posibil sa fie acesta motivul sa nu aiba viata masina???


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post 28 Oct 2014, 10:22
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Pai dupa parerea mea, trebuia curatata si baia de ulei.Si nu era rau sa folosesti 5W40 si nu 10w40 dar nu cred ca de la uleiul folosit ai tu probleme.Incearca sa masori compresia.


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oricum daca nu sunt segmentii atunci dece am presiune mare in baie???

28 Oct 2014, 12:04:
trebuie sa schimb iarasi turbo?????am verificat si nu are joc axul.

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E cam greu sa iti dea cineva un sfat fara sa vada masina cum merge. Poate sa fie absolut orice de la motor uzat pina la "nu a bagat mecanicu mufa bine la debitmetru"


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post 29 Oct 2014, 11:27
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nustiu ce sa zic. zilele astea ii fac test de compresie si ii mai fac odata test la masina......sad.gif(


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