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post 23 Nov 2008, 13:55
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circulatie nebuna in Roma, blocaje, lipsa locuri de parcare, unele strazi f ingustate de masinile parcate ,romanii s-au adaptat si si-au cumparat masini "simtite":

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sunt incurajati sa foloseasca motocicletele si scuterele - nu se plateste parcarea pt ele, dar se parcheaza numai in locuri special amenajate

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post 24 Nov 2008, 23:57
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2 zile la Milano, am plecat cu gandul de a merge sa vizitez dar am ajuns sa ma plimb doar prin magazine unde am golit portofelul de ceva mii euro....haine bune, frumoase, dar fara atractii de interes turistic.

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Stii cum se spune bashtane, fara numar fara numar.


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post 25 Nov 2008, 01:12
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QUOTE(nasty @ 23 Nov 2008, 13:55)
circulatie nebuna in Roma, blocaje, lipsa locuri de parcare, unele strazi f ingustate de masinile parcate ,romanii s-au adaptat si si-au cumparat masini "simtite":

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sunt incurajati sa foloseasca motocicletele si scuterele - nu se plateste parcarea pt ele, dar se parcheaza numai in locuri special amenajate
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post 6 Jan 2009, 16:31
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luna de miere, italia (sicilia-trapani) august 2008

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cateva din cele 700 poze

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post 12 Jan 2009, 10:31
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fata de avion, o astfel de calatorie cu masina are avantaje si dezavantaje.
pro:-poti face un tur cu multe puncte turistice
-vezi multe peisaje
-cu avionul esti limitat doar la locul in care mergi iar cu masina poti vedea mult mai multe in drum
contra: -drumul foarte obositor ( dar merita cu varf si indesat) cine a facu o astfel de calatorie stie ce spun


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post 12 Jan 2009, 11:55
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pt prima data cu masina plecat la un drum(lung) pina in trento, vreau sa spun ca am fost " rupt pe glezna" si aici colindat ca nebunu'.
deci analizati foarte bine drumul, opriri si ceea ce vreti sa vizitati, sa nu venit terminati fizic ca psihic o sa fiti super relaxati. tongue.gif


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post 12 Jan 2009, 15:10
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pana la trento sunt 1500 km. sa vezi distractie cand ai 3200 km pana la destinatie (trapani-sicilia) blink.gif


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post 13 Jan 2009, 01:52
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nu vreau sa fiu rautacios, dar mai pune un pic la cei 1500km si incearca sa te arunci ca nebunul, sa faci drumul fara somnic si a doua oara o sa calculezi mai bine (eu in cauza 090.gif death.gif )


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post 13 Jan 2009, 02:08
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QUOTE(faganezu @ 6 Jan 2009, 16:31)
luna de miere, italia (sicilia-trapani) august 2008
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Casa de piatra! Nu-mi dau seama din poze, ai fost sus la Erice?


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post 13 Jan 2009, 09:03
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In Mai intentionez sa fac o excursie pana in Sicilia. Intrebare: intrucat mai la sud de Roma nu am fost niciodata, as dori sa stiu cat costa autostrada pana la Messina.(mi-a spus cineva ca de fapt ar fi gratis in sud, asa este?).


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post 13 Jan 2009, 10:12
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Excluzand soselele de centura care peste tot sunt gratuite mai sunt tot fara plata sectoarele Napoli - Messina (in Calabria), Catania - Palermo, Autostrada Siracusa - Gela, Autostrada Palermo - Mazara del Vallo precum si varianta Trapani - Alcamo (in Sicilia). In Sicilia se plateste Messina - Catania si Messina - Palermo.

Pe harta, ceea ce este cu rosu se plateste iar ce este cu portocaliu este gratuit.

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post 13 Jan 2009, 11:15
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pt dumid: toata autostrada de la intrare in italia si pana la destinatie (trapani) ma costat cam 60 si ceva de euro. am mers doar pe autostrada, iar in sud se plateste autostrada.
pt dr25: nici eu nu am vrut sa fiu rautacios, chiar te inteleg si stiu ce inseamna un drum asa lung dar asa mia aratat pe viamichelin: 1566 km prin serbia. probabil tu ai mers prin austria (ca si mine de altfel) si de aia ai facut mai mult.
pt koldun: am fost aproape de erice mai precis in buseto palizzola


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post 13 Jan 2009, 13:11
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post 14 Jan 2009, 14:06
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QUOTE(faganezu @ 13 Jan 2009, 11:15)
pt dumid: toata autostrada de la intrare in italia si pana la destinatie (trapani) ma costat cam 60 si ceva de euro. am mers doar pe autostrada, iar in sud se plateste autostrada.
pt dr25: nici eu nu am vrut sa fiu rautacios, chiar te inteleg si stiu ce inseamna un drum asa lung dar asa mia aratat pe viamichelin: 1566 km prin serbia. probabil tu ai mers prin austria (ca si mine de altfel) si de aia ai facut mai mult.
pt koldun: am fost aproape de erice mai precis in buseto palizzola
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post 14 Jan 2009, 23:50
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si tu ai dreptate! wink.gif


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Imi poate indica cineva vreun site cu orarul si eventual costul
biletelor de tren din Italia ? Multumesc cu anticipatie .


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Ai aici unul si aici altul. Drum bun! wink.gif


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va rog sa-mi spuneti unde ati stat in roma si ce preturi exista la cazare?

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De cand au prelungit ungurii M7 pana in granita cu Croatia, am inteles din mai multe surse (gen via Michelin, dar si prieteni care au circulatpe acolo), am inteles, deci, ca majoritatea celor care calatoresc catre Italia, Franta (resp. sudul Frantei) si Spania nu mai intra prin Austria. O tin de pe M0 pe M7 pana in Croatia, apoi continua catre Italia prin Slovenia. Drumul este cu ceva mai scurt, autostrazile sunt in mare majoritate noi si bune, deci totul e ok.
Ce nu sunt eu foarte sigur e cum stam cu "docomentele, monsher, docomentele!". Adica, e nevoie de pasaport in Croatia sau in Slovenia, sau CI-ul e suficient? Daca bine am inteles, in aceste doua tari autostrazile se platesc la fel ca in Italia, pe sectiuni si cu puncte de plata. Se poate plati in euro? Sau se schimba bani la intrarea in tarile respective?
Pe scurt, as ruga un (sau o) coleg care a fost pe acest traseu sa ne impartaseasca din experienta asta - sunt sigur ca e una interesanta.
Ma intereseaza pentru o calatorie de serviciu (ca sa nu-i spun de afaceri) in zona Milano.
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Cred ca o varianta mai buna, daca vrei sa ajungi pe drumul cel mai scurt, esta sa intri prin Serbia-Croatia-Slovenia-Italia.
Este nevoie de pasaport pentru Serbia si Croatia.

In Slovenia este necesara o vigneta pentru a folosi autostrazile. Preturile sunt aici.. Mai multe detalii gasesti aici.

In Croatia platesti autostrazile la fel ca in Italia, adica raportal la distanta parcursa. Poti plati in Euro, Kuna sau cu cardul.


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Multumesc de raspuns alecsz99! Sincer, nu stiu daca prin Serbia este mai scurt pentru noi, cei din nordul tarii... tot ce se poate, in mod cert o sa verific!
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@sadi ... ok - sa nu uiti sa ne spui daca ai stat acolo ce si cum (dar si daca te-ai cazat altundeva) spor


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Pe la sfarsitul lui Aprilie o sa plecam si noi spre Italia cu masina. Singura problema care o vad eu este aceea a romanilor care sunt acolo. Sper sa nu mai violeze/omoare/jefuiasca nici un roman in perioada aia in Ialia pentru ca daca aud asa ceva schimb traseul si ma duc spre tara lu Mos Craciun ...... Nu de alta dar nu vreau sa-mi dea foc vrun bezmetic de italian ofuscat ca ce caut eu la el in tara ..... Pot fi probleme de genu asta?


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Ehhhh nici chiar asa ... probleme poti sa ai in orice tara, dar cred ca: daca tu nu ai nimic cu ei nici ei nu te baga in seama smile.gif


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Nici eu nu cred sa ai probleme de genul asta...cred ca mai repede tot de romani e bine sa te feresti! Spun asta ca unul care am fost pe acolo in vara trecuta, imediat dupa ce fusesera tot cateva intamplari de genul asta in Italia si nu a fost absolut nici o problema! Ba chiar la un momentdat eram pe un drum foarte foarte laturalnic si era un filtru de carabinieri care opreau masini. Eram sigur ca ne opresc, chiar am redus si viteza si ma gandeam unde am pus actele prin masina, dar nici macar nu s-au uitat curios la noi! Cat despre civilii italieni, ne-am inteles bine cu toata lumea! Daca iti vezi de treaba sunt sigur ca nu vei avea probleme!

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Eh sigur.... Pe o colega a sotiei a sarit direct cum au coborat din autobuz o trupa de italieni dusi cu pluta, in Roma. Cand au vazut ca e autocar de romani au inceput sa strige la ei si sa-i impinga... Si in zona erau niste carabinieri care doar se uitau si nu faceau nimic.In restul concediului a vorbit ungureste si a mers separat de restul, de frica sa nu pateasca la fel.
Si mie mi-ar fi placut sa revin in zona Jesolo, insa nu am mers, am zis ca oricum sunt multe zone frumoase pe care nu le-am vazut, si nu am chef sa imi strice vreun incident de genul asta concediul..

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