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Amortizoare Megane 2.2, Ce marca/tip de amortizoare?

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valikris2002
post 17 Sep 2014, 19:33
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Un inginer de la reno mi a zis ca arcurile sunt la fel pentru ambele variante pdg si non pdg si ca pot schimba amortizoarele pdg cu cele non pdg ultimile fiind mai scurte si mai rigide asa se scapa de efectul de jeep.


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post 18 Sep 2014, 05:06
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da, se pot pastra arcurile. eu am trecut la non PDG acum aproximativ doua luni si totul este foarte ok.

a disparut efectul de barca, nu mai bazaie mai nimic, iar mecanicul unde am facut schimbul mi-a spus ca bieletele sunt foarte bune si nu se meritau schimbate, deci au ramas cele de PDG.


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post 18 Sep 2014, 09:00
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Te-a mintit.Si pana la urma ce facem,ca vreau sa renunt la pdg si eram pornit pe arcuri sport.Trebuie schimbate sau nu si arcurile.Se zicea ca doar cele de pe spate trebuiesc inlocuite.


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post 18 Sep 2014, 09:19
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Pt. trecerea de la PDG la nonPDG trebuiesc urmatoarele:

- arcuri spate
- amortizoare fata nonPDG
- bielete anti-ruliu nonPDG (285mm parca pt nonPDG, in loc de 266mm pt PDG)


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post 18 Sep 2014, 13:09
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intreb si eu: cu ce influenteaza bieletele? arcuri spate da, trebuia sa ma gandesc si la asta.


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post 21 Sep 2014, 19:17
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Imi explica si mie cineva; Am schimbat amortizoarele fata, kyb pdg, discuri de frana, placute frana fata, brat cu pivot stanga trw caci asta erau de schimbat. Inainte dar si dupa ce le-am schimbat imi trage masina dreapta si nu stiu ce dracu are.
m-am gandit ca dupa ce le schimb va fi ok dar uite ca nu e asa.
Amortizoarele si discurile erau varza si trebuiau schimbate oricum si joc aveam numai din cauza pivotului stanga.
Schimbat si tot degeaba masina trage dreapta si cauciucurile vad sa s-au totci la interior.
Care sa fie problema? bielete capete de bara sunt ok.
sa am probleme din caseta de directie?


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post 26 Oct 2014, 23:31
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Oanavas, ai incercat sa faci o geometrie?


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post 27 Oct 2014, 09:00
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corect, dupa ce ai schimbat toate cele, este nevoie neaparat sa faci geometria. Cauta la tine in oras unii mai profi, care au 3D si se si pricep, ca am vazut multi mesteri in service-uri care habar n-au cu ce se mananca, pe principiul 'toate e lafel'. Eu la un service m-am chinuit si sa-i fac sa inteleaga ca a mea e fara PDG, ca nu e pt RO , nici nu stiau ca exista asa ceva smile.gif)

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post 24 Dec 2014, 09:24
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Salut!

Cum imi dau seama daca masina are PDG sau nu


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post 24 Dec 2014, 10:50
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nu prea ma pricep la PDG, dar poti vedea asta din configuratia masinii dupa VIN (exista un topic dedicat in caz ca nu o ai) sau uitandu-te la roti, cele cu PDG sunt mai inaltate, si parca pachetul includea si scut metalic sub masina.


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post 24 Dec 2014, 11:31
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Uite asa arata cu PDG

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post 24 Dec 2014, 12:33
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buna ...poate sa mi zica cineva daca masina din semnatura are PDG...ms anticipat


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post 24 Dec 2014, 14:45
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e o gluma sau ce? tocmai am spus mai sus cum se poate vedea , a pus si colegul o poza, si tu vrei sa ne dam seama daca are a ta, cum ?!?!


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post 24 Dec 2014, 14:53
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ssharky...eu stiu asa ;daca e din 2006(dar un stiu ax din ce luna incepind..),e facuta in turcia ,si e euro 4 s-au vindut numai cu pdg...care are garda la sol marita fata de cele fara pdg iar suspensia spate e mult mai elastica..(cel putin asa e a mea)...


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post 24 Dec 2014, 14:58
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nu neaparat, cel mai bine se vede dupa VIN (pe configuratia masinii) , in general cele cumparate din RO au PDG (nu mai pe Renault , si pe VAG si pe altele)


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post 22 Jan 2015, 11:39
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Mie dupa o verificare vin imi spune asa " SUSPENSIE CU AMORTIZARE RANFORSATĂ SUSNOR-SUSPENSIE NORMALĂ " Deci imi trebuie amortizoare normale fara PDG nu ? vreau sa imi pun sachs pe gaz luna viitoare , dupa parerea voastra este ok ?


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post 29 Jan 2015, 16:01
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Am si eu o intrebare, poate ma puteti ajuta voi.

Am PDG, vreau sa ramana asa. Vreau sa schimb amortizoarele si flansele. Am ales KYB, si anume Excel-G. Dar sunt un pic nedumerit, pe site-ul catalog KYB, imi da doua feluri de Excel-G, anume:
Pe fata:
333718 - Vehicles without sports suspension
338712 - Vehicles with off-road suspension
Pe spate:
344800 - Vehicles without sports suspension
344814 - Vehicles with off-road suspension

Eu nu am suspensie sport, deci merge prima varianta, si am PDG deci merge si a doua varianta. Sau n-am inteles eu?

Ce comand pana la urma? Care din cele doua variante?

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post 29 Jan 2015, 16:10
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Offroad pe Megane 2 inseamna PDG, deci , iti trebuie offroad. Whitout sport inseamna normal.


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post 29 Jan 2015, 16:19
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off-road sa fie in acest caz.


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post 29 Jan 2015, 16:31
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Eu am comandat 'whitout sport suspension' la non pdg, si fura bune.


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post 29 Jan 2015, 20:11
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Prin eliminare, rezulta ca off-road vor fi bune pentru PDG.

Tine-mi pumnii, am comandat. smile.gif


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post 29 Jan 2015, 21:08
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post 29 Jan 2015, 21:46
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shteffanivlad - cat costa amortizoarele comandate de tine, ca si eu trebuie sa le schimb pe toate...au 116k si sunt duse plange.gif


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post 29 Jan 2015, 22:48
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preturile sunt cam asa

PDG:

fata KYB 338712 = 250ron/buc
spate KYB 344814 = 190ron/buc

non-PDG

fata KYB 333718 = 200ron/buc
spate KYB 344800 = 196ron/buc

29 Jan 2015, 22:49:
@shteffanivlad , daca are multi km masina ar tb sa schimbi si arcurile

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post 29 Jan 2015, 23:46
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De ce si arcurile?


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post 30 Jan 2015, 00:50
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pai doar nu sunt pe viata smile.gif) se uzeaza ca orice alta componenta. 200mii km ar fi de ajuns.

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post 30 Jan 2015, 08:14
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Preturi inca nu stiu, urmeaza sa am o surpriza.

Am 120.000km, si este dus amortizorul de pe fata dreapta. Dar daca tot ma apuc de treaba, le schimb toate. Oricum pe fata nu poti pune numai unul, ca nu poti, si daca tot le pun, le pun si pe alea pe spate.

Si flansele le schimb, dar nu stiu cu ce. Tind catre SKF, dar numai asa, ca am auzit de ei. Lemforder fac flanse?

Arcurile la tura viitoare de amortizoare, nu acum.


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post 30 Jan 2015, 11:21
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post 30 Jan 2015, 16:06
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Nu bricolez.

djcristi: ai un cod pentru KYB? Ca eu n-am gasit...


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