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razvan2u
post 29 Nov 2007, 11:56
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ajutor as vrea sa stiu ce se intimpla ca dimineata cind pornesc motorul la rece ( cam de la 2-3 grade in jos spre minus) incepe si tacane cam aproximativ 30 de secunde pina la un minut si dupa aia pot sa o pornesc de o suta de ori ca nu se mai aude nimic. Sa se fi infundat vreo conducta de ulei sau asa ceva si nu ajunge uleiul in timp necesar la tacheti caci cam asa ar fi zgomotul.


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post 29 Nov 2007, 12:51
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am impresia ca si mie imi tacane putin porimele secunde la temperaturi joase, dar credeam ca este normal

asa o fi?


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post 29 Nov 2007, 12:53
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si la mine tacane putin....o fi ceva prob sau asa face dim la rece?


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post 29 Nov 2007, 12:54
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Este oarecum normal sa tacane la rece pt. ca are tacheti hidraulici si pana ajunge uleiul la ei...


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post 29 Nov 2007, 17:39
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Si tractorasul meu tacane cand e foarte rece si dispare cam dupa 30 de secunde (1.5dci). A facut asa de cand am luat-o.


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post 29 Nov 2007, 18:37
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oare nu e din cauza uleiului?


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post 29 Nov 2007, 19:23
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Si mie imi tacane, dar doar atunci cand se incalzaste motorul (1.8 16v)....nici acum nu sunt sigur de ce?!
Daca ati mai intalnit asa probleme ....let me know pls!


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post 29 Nov 2007, 20:31
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Ce ulei aveti? Cumva 10W40?


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post 29 Nov 2007, 21:00
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Daca masina nu a mai fost pornita e normal sa faca putin galagie.din cauza tacheti hidraulici. Dar dupa cateva zeci de secunde e ok.


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post 29 Nov 2007, 21:01
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QUOTE(cj98czh @ 29 Nov 2007, 12:54)
Este oarecum normal sa tacane la rece pt. ca are tacheti hidraulici si pana ajunge uleiul la ei...
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In sensul asta si continuand si ideea lui ssilvviu, credeti ca diferenta la indicele de vascozitate de 20 intre 5W si 10W e importanta? Adica nu s-ar mai auzi?


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post 29 Nov 2007, 21:04
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Eu am 5W40 (Castrol), masina are 160K la bord (sper reali).
Nu am auzit nici un fel de tacanit/trancanit/fluierat dinspre motor.
Ar fi mai bine daca ati folosi si voi 5w40 chiar si vara (cel putin a mea nu a consumat nimic in 7000 km am tot nivel maxim in bord).


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post 29 Nov 2007, 21:33
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si laguna mea tacane cand e rece afara dimineata, nu cred ca are nimic


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post 29 Nov 2007, 21:44
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Si Symbol-ul meu tacane... cred ca este ceva normal! biggrin.gif


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post 29 Nov 2007, 22:29
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Nu e diesel de la mama natura care sa nu tacane. Potoliti-va!!


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post 29 Nov 2007, 22:35
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eu cred ca are legatura cu socul automat (trancanitul)


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post 29 Nov 2007, 22:36
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Eu cred ca mai degraba cu uleiul.
Dar nu cred ca tacanitul la rece e normal, nici macar pt diesel.


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post 29 Nov 2007, 22:37
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mai ales pt. diesel
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post 29 Nov 2007, 22:39
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post 30 Nov 2007, 13:54
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Eu am ulei 0w 40 sintetic Aral si am cu el 7500 km. Masina are 182 000 km reali


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post 1 Dec 2007, 08:34
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Dar oare nivelul e ok? Sa nu-l fi mancat.
Uleiul nu si-o fi pierdut din calitati?
Uita-te putin pe joja si vezi si uleiul daca mai are proprietati de ungere, daca nu cumva o fi ajuns motorina in el.
Totusi 0W40 mi se pare cam subtire pt un motor cu 180.000 km.


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post 2 Dec 2007, 16:36
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uleiul e ok iar 0w40 sintetic e recomandat de producator nu?


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post 2 Dec 2007, 16:44
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Din fabrica vin cu 5W, iar multa lume dupa 100K pune 10W, lucru cu care eu nu sunt de acord (decat daca 5W este consumat de motor).
La urmatorul schimb incearca Elf 5W40. Eu unul pun Castrol, dar iti recomand Elf pt a nu starni controverse. Elf recomanda si Renault.


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post 2 Dec 2007, 17:02
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ok dar as pune mobil 5w40 ce spui?

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si mai exact nu maninca ulei deloc

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post 2 Dec 2007, 17:04
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post 17 Nov 2010, 11:32
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QUOTE(razvan2u @ 29 Nov 2007, 11:56)
dimineata cind pornesc motorul la rece ( cam de la 2-3 grade in jos spre minus) incepe si tacane cam aproximativ 30 de secunde pina la un minut si dupa aia pot sa o pornesc de o suta de ori ca nu se mai aude nimic. Sa se fi infundat vreo conducta de ulei sau asa ceva si nu ajunge uleiul in timp necesar la tacheti  caci cam asa ar fi zgomotul.
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Si eu am cam aceeasi problema, numai cand e motorul rece (de obicei numai la prima pornire parca) se aude un zornait (ca de metal) in partea dreapta (zona alternator-roata), nu am localizat sunetul. Face cateva secunde si apoi tace. Dar ce am observat: inainte de a termina cu zornaiala, acul turometrului se duce de la 900rtm la 1000 si apoi iar la 900 rtm si apoi tace si sta cuminte la 900rtm(pana se incalzeste un pic motorul cand sta la 800rtm).
Ce poate fii ca nu-i dau de cap.... am schimbat rola ghidaj transmisie, alternator.
Pot fii tacheti?
Astept pareri... multumesc.

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post 17 Nov 2010, 19:13
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razvan2u iti recomand sa verifici bujiile incandescente pt ca sigur ai cateva arse dupa care vezi daca este vreo schimbare daca nu continui cu schimbarea uleiului cu ELF 5W40

de iarna trecuta si pana la primul frig de anul asta am avut 2 bujii arse la 1 si 4,aveam o bataie la pornire cam 4-5 secunde dupa care disparea si pe toba imi dadea o pata de fum,am schimbat bujiile arse si acuma functioneaza perfect

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post 17 Nov 2010, 19:25
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Nu cred ca bujiile au de-a face cu tacaneala aceea. Iarna trecuta mi-a pornit masina la -29 de grade cu o singura bujie incandescenta functionala si nu am auzit nici un zgomot suspect. respekt.gif


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post 18 Nov 2010, 08:38
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Fara suparare, dar cu siguranta nu are nici o legatura cu bujiile. Bujiile oricum le-am schimbat prin ianuarie (erau duse 3)...si nu avea nici un sunet ciudat la masina.
Astept in continuare pareri....

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post 18 Nov 2010, 19:01
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super98 nu stiu voi dar eu cand am avut 2 bujii arse la masina imi batea motorul dupa pornire cam 3-4 secunde cand era frig afara,la tine poate sa fie si din cauza pompei de ulei sau din cauza la cuzineti


motoarele ce au peste 200 mii km incep sa aibe joc la cutineti la biele in general la pistoanele 3-4 din cauza presiuni de ulei scazuta,acuma nu a fi la toate masinile depinde foarte mult de exploatare

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post 19 Apr 2011, 21:05
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Nu am rezolvat inca nimic cu acel zornait, nimeni nu descopera sigur de unde e, ce trebuie sa schimb... Acum a durat mai mult acel zornait - am dat drumul clima si ventilator la maxim, dar si asa tot tace destul de repede - o fac sa zornaie iar...din acceleratie-sprituri (sa zic asa).
Am filmat si astept parerile voastre:


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