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post 9 Oct 2010, 10:20
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Fiecare face cum doreste. Eu unul am timpul si rabdarea disponibila sa ma uit la chestiile astea, in special ca nu e chiar ieftina piesa. Ce e rau in faptul ca sunt atent la niste piese care stiu ca in trecut s-au stricat?
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post 9 Oct 2010, 21:51
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Cel pe care il am acum, de logan, este al treilea de pe masina, am mai schimbat unul pe garantie si si acela s-a dus rapid, asa ca nu mai am incredere in piese renault sau speciale de 1.5, vreau sa iau de 1.9. Mihai, la ce plastice te referi cand spui ca eu nu am?


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post 10 Oct 2010, 08:27
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Intrucat am depasit 60k km, sunt direct interesat de starea respectivului tampon. Problema este ca nu stiu ce si unde este distanta masurabila. Din topic au reiesit date contradictorii: uneori de ordinul catorva mm, alteori pana la 2 cm. Astept un raspuns, daca se poate cu foto, de la un coleg stiutor.


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post 10 Oct 2010, 10:29
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Distanta aia e variabila pentru ca acest tampon se "lasa"in timp.


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post 10 Oct 2010, 10:45
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Multumesc. La mine asa arata, cam 2 mm, inteleg ca e pe drumul spre schimbare..

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post 10 Oct 2010, 15:36
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A se observa ca cel postat de mine nu este montat pe masina.


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post 10 Oct 2010, 16:31
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Asa arata un tampon de logan diesel 1.5 pe renault megane 1.6 16v sunt foarte multumit pentru ca am eliminat balansul exagerat care aveam cu cel original cine are tampon original poate sa verifice cum se belenseaza motorul si cu un tampon nou dar cu cel de diesel este ok.

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post 11 Oct 2010, 08:46
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Pune, te rog, o poza din care sa se vada care este distanta incriminata, la un tampon nou, dupa montare. Am citit toate postarile topicului si nu exista o asemenea foto.


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post 11 Oct 2010, 14:32
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Daca ma puteti lamuri si pe mine,care tampon este responsabil pentru smuciturile create atunci cand schimb viteza,in special cand retrogradez,cel hidroelastic este imbatranit si vreau sa-l schimb(nu mai simt masina la fel de legata),,ma gandeam la bieleta anticuplu ,sfaturi?,precizez ca vibratiile sunt dar nu foarte pronuntate la relanti


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post 11 Oct 2010, 14:42
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vezi mai in urma, la pagina 13, postul 379


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post 12 Oct 2010, 15:44
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Am schimbat hidroelasticul. Febi, cost 378 RON. Cel vechi montat in fabrica era Hutchinson (Franta). Cand am masurat cu lera, am constatat ca nu intra fiind cauciuc/cauciuc. Timp de lucru 2 ore. Se cunoate in principal la pornire/oprire motor-nu se mai simt socurile, neavand personal ajutator. Ca scule necesare 2 chei tubulare-una de 18 si una de 16, plus o dinamometrica. Foto:
1. Cel vechi montat
2. Cel nou
3. Cel nou cu evidentierea distantei
4. Cel nou montat

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Afirmatia referitoare la "personalul ajutator" serveste la motivarea timpului de lucru de 2 ore.

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post 12 Oct 2010, 17:56
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Acelasi tampon febi am si eu din iarna si chiar m-am uitat azi la el,nu s-a lasat parca deloc.


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post 12 Oct 2010, 20:08
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Salut. Imi poate spune si mie cineva la ce cuplu se strange acest tampon hidroelastic si daca marca Ruville e bun de ceva? Mercy


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post 12 Oct 2010, 20:19
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Citeste cateva pagini in urma, sunt cativa care se plang de Ruville. Este mentionat si cuplul daca nu ma insel 120 si 60 parca, dar gasesti explicat in scheme.


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post 12 Oct 2010, 23:49
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Tampoanele acestea, inclusiv bieleta anticuplu, pot genera unele vibratii si sa faca masina sa mearga ca si cum drumul ar fi valuit in sarcina? Sa zicem undeva la o viteza constanta cu o turatie la 2000-2250RPM?

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post 13 Oct 2010, 07:53
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62 Nm la suruburile cu cap de 16 (7 buc.) si 105 la surubul central cu cap de 18. Atentie la gradul de ridicare al motorului cu cricul, ca surubul central sa fie perfect aliniat cu suportul de pe motor. Altfel suruburile se desfac f. greu, fiind si risc de deteriorare filet. Surubul central se desurubeaza cu suportul motor fixat si dupa aceea se scot celelalte suruburi. Cu ocazia asta puteti verifica vizual si cureaua de distributie.


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post 13 Oct 2010, 08:48
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care e faza cu semnul ala albastru trebuie sa se vada sau nu? si cum se masoara daca s-a lasat? al meu are 3 ani si 50 mii km am niste faze cu scuturat la decelerare, la oprire parca ar fi ceva insa nu exagerat. Se schimba doar daca te deranjeaza foarte tare smunciturile sau afecteaza si alceva?


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post 13 Oct 2010, 09:19
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culoarea nu are relevanta la pozitia de montare, din cate stiu indica tipul de motorizare, mai erau niste culori in afara de blue
daca se simte nasol la decelerari in principiu e vb de bieleta antirasturnare nu de tamponul hidroelastic


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post 13 Oct 2010, 21:25
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tr_viorel si SorinCT va multumesc pentru raspunsuri


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post 17 Oct 2010, 18:26
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La mine se pare ca nu tamponul era de vina, ci scutul de metal, care nu era bine prins si vibra...

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La mine se pare ca nu tamponul era de vina, ci scutul de metal, care nu era bine prins si vibra...

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salut! am si eu o intrebare ! poate a mai postat careva acest fapt! dupa ce se incalzeste motorul apare o trepidatie destul de sesizabila care dupa un timp dispare ,iar apare.... sad.gif ! ma rog am inteles ca ar fi tamponul hidroelastic(acela din dreptul distributiei)intrebarea era daca tamponul acela este identic cu cel de pe logan (avand in vedere ca sunt acelasi motoare) intreb ptr ca diferenta de pret intre cel de pe loan si megane e semnificativa ! 180 de logan , aprox 300 de megane! ca de multe ori platesti firma !


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post 18 Oct 2010, 20:59
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Citeste mai sus ca sunt cativa care si-au pus tampon de logan si nu a tinut mult.


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post 18 Oct 2010, 21:18
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eu am pus de logan si nu am avut probleme, dupa cum se poate vedea in posturile mele.


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Si eu am tampon de Logan. In iarna asta face un an. Fara probleme pana acum.


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In afara de zgomotul masinii ce se mai poate intampla daca merg cu suportul uzat?
Masina are acelasi zgomot de 3 ani de cand am cumparat-o. Nu este chiar foarte deranjant. Tin minte ca biela anticuplu de asemenea era uzata ca simteam ca se misca schimbatorul dar am crezut ca asa o fi normal. Si la revizie la Bras prin 2008 chiar tin minte ca l-am intrebat pe mecanic daca trebuie sa schimb suportul si mi-a zis ca nu trebuie.


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post 19 Oct 2010, 13:45
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Daca miscati motorul cu mana acesta atinge carcasa?

La mine intr-o parte e foarte aproape de carcasa si o atinge daca misc motorul cu mana, probabil atinge carcasa si de la trepidatiile motorului (asta nu stiu) cert e ca in relantin se simt vibratii in masina.

distanta despre care se vb masi sus in schimb este corespunzatoate (mai masor odata)


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Despre ce carcasa vorbesti?

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post 19 Oct 2010, 16:46
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Masurat astazi aproximativ 6 mm distanta.
Are vreo 300 km, cred ca s-a asezat de tot.

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de partea metalica a tamponlui motor

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