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post 23 Jul 2009, 17:51
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Salutare,

Cine ma poate ajuta cu o nelamurire?Cum nu sunt un expert in ale ''automobilelor'' ,am o nedumerire.
Pentru un motor de 1.8 benzinar tip motor F3P, an fab '94, care este raportul perfect pentru un consum cat mai mic in afara localitatii?Am inteles ca asa ceva se num ''viteza de croaziera''. Adica care este viteza maxima constanta cu care ai putea merge, in treapta ''x'' de viteza+ numarul de turatii ideale pt un consum mic?

m'ar putea ajuta cineva?stiu ca difera de la motor la motor si de la diesel la benzina.in cazul meu cam care ar fi ?

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post 23 Jul 2009, 18:01
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bineinteles ca difera de la masina la masina,de la o motorizare la alta...insa...ptr ca suntem in Romania la un drum lung eu tin 100-110 (in general) si 60-70 prin localitati (sate)

a5a pe la 2000-2100 ture are cam 80-95 km/H...dar o simt ca-i subturata....asa ca o mai duc un pic pina in 100-110.


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post 23 Jul 2009, 18:42
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Depinde de capacitatea motorului, tipul motorului, uzura motorului, uzura ambreiajului, greutatea masinii, eventuale frecari pe la roti (rulmenti, etc.), incarcatura masinii, tipul carburantului, tipul si uzura pneurilor, starea drumului, temperatura asfaltului, inclinatia drumului si cate si mai cate...

La berlina in treapta a 2-a la 50 km/h aveam 3000 rpm, la break 45 la 3000. La berlina prindeam maxim 105 km/h in treapta a 2-a (intra limitatorul), cu break-ul prind 95. Berlina e mai grea cu 60 kg, mai lunga cu 10 cm si are CX mai prost.

Ma streseaza ca break-ul e atat de lenes. Berlina fugea mai bine. Dar eu suspectez si ambreiajul de la break, plus am si un rulment bolnavior care mai ia si el din viteza (dar nu mult).

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post 24 Jul 2009, 09:46
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eu o tin cam in 3000-3200 rpm in a 5-a. cam 120-130


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post 24 Jul 2009, 10:45
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La a mea, la viteza maxima legala pe autostrazile din Ioropa (130/h), in treapta a 5'a are 3750RPM, adica exact turatia de cuplu maxim. O fi o coincidenta? wink.gif


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post 24 Jul 2009, 13:39
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nu e coincidenta
e calcul matematic


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post 25 Jul 2009, 08:16
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pe ruta timisoara-- brasov la 100-110km/h (120-130 in depasiri)sau mai mult, dupa caz, mie mi-a aratat un 5.5--5.6l/100


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post 27 Jul 2009, 11:17
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si a mea ia in jur de 6,5 pe la acelasi regim de turatie...


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post 31 Jul 2009, 22:29
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110-120,cu turatia aproximativ 3800


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post 2 Aug 2009, 12:04
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CYP VFS cum mergi tu cu 110-120 la 3800RPM?.....ca eu la 110 is la 3000RPM si tot 1.6 16V am motor.


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post 3 Aug 2009, 12:05
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merge cu a 4'a, sa aiba rezerva de putere. ph34r.gif


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post 3 Aug 2009, 12:23
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sigur e pe bune? 120 la 3800?
eventual cu a 2-a ca masina se numeste McLaren


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post 3 Aug 2009, 16:01
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La mine la 110 km/h am exact 3000 de ture in a5-a.Consumul e undeva pe la 6 l la suta de km.


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post 3 Aug 2009, 16:19
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Scuze de greseala am vrut sa spun 2800,era prea tarziu cand am scris.

3 Aug 2009, 16:37:
Scuze am vrut sa spun 2800,era prea tarziu cand am scris .

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post 4 Aug 2009, 09:16
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1.6 16V, a 5'a, 110-120 la 2800? Dar ce, cutia de 1.6 e mai lunga ca la 1.8 16V? blink.gif


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post 4 Aug 2009, 09:17
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da, e mai lunga


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post 6 Aug 2009, 00:01
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...pentru ca puterea lui 1.8 iti ofera plaje mai scazute ptr un "ruliu" linistit. (daca nu ma insel ,astea de 1.8 au 120cp,fata de 107 de la 1.6)


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post 6 Aug 2009, 00:15
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motoarele de 1,8 16v ofera un confort marit al conducerii, numai ca plaja de turatii ramane inalta...parerea mea


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post 6 Aug 2009, 00:33
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in general motoarele mici sunt mai turate...mai ales astea de reno.


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post 6 Aug 2009, 00:34
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sunt totusi de parere ca toate benzinarele lui Renault sunt turate


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post 7 Aug 2009, 21:39
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Daca nu gresesc toate motoarele in 16v sunt motoare de turatie.


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post 7 Aug 2009, 22:21
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Si cele de 24 ? biggrin.gif


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post 8 Aug 2009, 15:31
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ati mers cu 1.4 de la logan ..sa vedeti ce bine trage de la 3500 in sus? si ala nu cred ca are 16V.


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Cu Loganu se merge eco tongue.gif
Laguna se simte bine de la 4000 rpm in sus wink.gif


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post 10 Aug 2009, 09:30
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QUOTE(maister_dm @ 10 Aug 2009, 10:20)
Cu Loganu se merge eco tongue.gif
Laguna se simte bine de la 4000 rpm in sus wink.gif
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Aici te sustin.Eu la 100km/h am 3000rpm si la 190 aveam 5500.La mers cu 110-120 imi consuma undeva la 6,5.

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post 10 Aug 2009, 10:24
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Eu la 110 kmh aveam 5000 rpm.. in tr.3 biggrin.gif
De consum nu stiu ce sa zic.. nu am CB si nici nu merg cu viteza constanta. O sa revin in curand cu consumul mediu facut in wendu asta, Buc - Neptun, drum 90% liber (bine, plecat la 4.30 din buc si la 20.30 din Neptun)..
Am plecat cu plinu facut si m-am intors cu o liniuta sub juma de rezervor, asa ca estimez un consum de 35 litri pe 550 km, fara AC pornit (nu a fost cazul) biggrin.gif Insa revin cu date concrete cand ii fac din nou plinu.smile.gif


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post 10 Aug 2009, 10:35
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Vasiu, unde ai ajuns la 190 km/h ? Pe autostrada sau pe drumuri normale ?


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Mie mi se pare interesanta turatia la cere era.. 5500 rpm la 190? Eu aveam, pana sa schimb ambreiajul, 6100 (cred) la viteza asta..
De atunci nu am mai calcat-o pe coada. Bine, i-am mai tras un bici pana la 170 kmh, dar aveam vreo 5000 rpm... hmm.


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Eu la 190 km/h am turatia.... stai asa ! eu nu pot sa ajung la viteza asta plange.gif


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