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Johnny78
post 3 Feb 2009, 21:38
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de cand discutam;, puneam proiectoare si toata instalatia.
spre diferenta de halogen, Xenonul asta cu bec tembel NU focalizeaza corect, indiferent de temperatura de culoare. si eu am vrut la un moment dat, am condus cu xenon pana la Bacau si am ajuns acasa de nu mai puteam sa cer nici de mancare. sunt foarte obositoare daca nu ai si lupa pe far, adica asa cum vine el din fabrica. Motivul este pentru ca dau o lumina difuza...


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post 4 Feb 2009, 09:02
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coffee_spitsk.gif .... imi cer scuze pentru postul anterior, am vrut sa mai fac si pe desteptu' blush.gif si am scris jenant de rau ( ideea era buna ... punctuatia era proasta ) oops.gif

... dar bine zice tatucu' happy.gif ... nu mai are rost discutia, fiindca tocmai am mai avut niste discutii cu colegi la servici si asa ziceau si ei despre xenon fara lupa!


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post 4 Feb 2009, 09:25
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off topic..............scuze !!!!! worship.gif

@just_illusions....unde lucrezi ?


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post 4 Feb 2009, 09:37
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asa este referitor la focalizare, insa nu e de vina becul dilibaur cu xenon ci oglinda farului care nu e conceputa pentru un flux luminos mai mult decat dublu si mai scapa si "pe langa".

oricum, eu am gasit solutia: vand lupe!

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post 4 Feb 2009, 09:38
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tu nu-ti dai nici nr de inmatriculare dar ma intrebi pe mine unde lucrez ? huh.gif
verifica PM !

4 Feb 2009, 09:42:
"user posted image" ???????? ... ce lupe vinzi strumfule ?

4 Feb 2009, 09:44:
oops.gif iar am dat-o de gard ... de-abia acum mi -sa afisat poza ... inainte de a scrie era ce am scris eu in ghilimele !

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post 4 Feb 2009, 10:12
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te-am jignit cumva cu aceasta intrebare ????...........imi cer scuze.......ai PM !


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post 4 Feb 2009, 14:03
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Deci trebuie cautat becuri xenon cu lupa ?


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post 4 Feb 2009, 14:11
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nu exista bec xenon cu lupa. doar far cu lupa.


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post 4 Feb 2009, 15:23
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... da .. subscriu

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cridaia ... relaxeaza-te ! nu e nevoie sa-ti ceri scuze ! ai si tu PM ! happy.gif

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post 4 Feb 2009, 15:51
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OK atunci. No Xenons for me. Si asa nu-mi suradea ideea. Ce imi surade in schimb sint becuri mai puternice de 55W. Dar nu e voie sad.gif

Si asa Philips se bat cu caramida in piept ca becurile care le am eu dau cu 80% mai multa lumina decat becurile obisnuite (care or fi alea?).

Daca as putea sa curat sticla farului pe dinauntru (nu oglinda), ar fi super si sint sigur ca as imbunatati substantial calitatea luminii.

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post 4 Feb 2009, 15:53
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crezi ca se topeste "sticla" ? ... dar cred ca si bateria e afectata!


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post 4 Feb 2009, 15:54
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Din nou esti confuz, Illusions. Ce ai vrut sa spui ?


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post 4 Feb 2009, 15:59
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ai PM de la mine !!!

4 Feb 2009, 16:00:
aaaaa . am vrut sa zic ... de nu e voie bec mai puternic ?

4 Feb 2009, 16:02:
ca sa cureti sticla pe dinauntru cred ca nu poti decat sa dai jos farurili si sa scoti instalatia ... si apa cu sapun sau ceva aer de la un compresor...sau combinatie intre ele, cxa sticla nu cred ca se detaseaza de oglinda !

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post 4 Feb 2009, 19:21
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In cazul vostru nu e sticla, e policarbonat (adica plastic)
si nimeni nu garanteaza ca oglinda ramane intreaga dupa ce detasezi "sticla" de oglinda...


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post 4 Feb 2009, 21:12
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Nasol moment. Am spus eu ca au pus capcane cei de la Renault cand au proiectat masina asta. Daca s-ar fi putut detasa oglinda ca la o lanterna ar fi fost perfect. Sa nu mai vorbim ca nici farul nu e usor de demontat.


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post 4 Feb 2009, 21:13
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stim tati ... tocmai de asta am pus problema cu topitul mai sus si ideea mea era sa facem curatenie fara sa detasam sticla, ma gandesc ca merge nu, daca dai jos farul ?!
... dar de ce nu e voie bec mai puternic de 55W ?


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post 4 Feb 2009, 21:47
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"Aceste becuri nu indeplinesc normele ECE R37 astfel incit nu pot fi utilizate pe soselele europene. Filamentele cu wattaj mare produc o cantitate mare de lumina care este necesara in conditiile unei competitii cu circuit inchis."aceasta reclama am gasit-o pe un site al unui distribuitor de becuri auto,cu referire la becurile de peste 55w.aceste norme,cica,se refera la toate imbunatatirile aduse aftermarket:folii,becuri,jante(citez de pe un alt forum pt.ca nu am gasit pe net o traducere in limba romana a acestor norme).
p.s.inainte aceste probleme se rezolvau in prima faza cu schimbarea becurilor si dupa aceea cu reglarea farurilor la un service dotat cu aparatura necesara.cel putin la noi in oras au cam diparut aceste instrumente de prin service si chiar unele din cele mai moderne nu le au.acum doi ani am umblat o juma'de oras pt.a gasi un loc in care sa-mi reglez un far ce batea prin copaci.


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post 5 Feb 2009, 00:37
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Deci inseamna ca am retinut bine ? Masinile de raliuri au becuri cu halogen, nu cu xenon ? E adevarat ca au multe becuri din astea, dar in esenta, becuri cu filament.


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post 5 Feb 2009, 16:58
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deci daca montezi si proiectoare cu becuri de 55 W, ai in total 300 de W pe boticul dumneaei. destul pentru o masina mica, nu crezi?


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post 5 Feb 2009, 19:17
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La raliuri au o gramada de faruri. Mai au inca 5-6 montate pe capota, pe langa cele default.


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post 6 Feb 2009, 15:54
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Pai de aia baga ca maniacii...


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post 6 Feb 2009, 20:58
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Johnny, ai primit PM-ul meu ? L-am trimis acum vreo 2-3 zile.


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post 6 Feb 2009, 21:34
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da tu ai primit PM-ul meu ?


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post 7 Feb 2009, 03:22
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Eu da.


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post 10 Feb 2009, 09:23
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Ricochet, din pacate nu.
Te superi daca te rog sa il mai trimiti o data?


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Nu ma supar, dar nu stiu cat de actual mai e. L-am mai trimis inca o data. De data asta l-am salvat si in saved folders. Merci.


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post 12 Feb 2009, 23:53
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tot nu am primit saracia de PM.
mai bine baga pe mail...


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Eu zic ca l-ai primit, pentru ca ai raspuns smile.gif Am raspuns si eu kilometric. Sper sa il primesti si mai ales sa ai timp sa-l citesti.


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@ricochet2: Am un prieten tot cu laguna 1, o stricat un far si o cumparat altu nou. parca 250 ron o dat pe el (sper ca tin minte bine pretu). M-am cam mirat cand am vazut ce diferenta mare ii intre faru nou si faru vechi. si asta fara philips xtreme vision. Din masina aveai impresia ca bate numa faru ala nou biggrin.gif Si farul vechi era numa zgariat, dar matuit nu era. Se pare ca "sticla" aia de plastic se invecheste in timp.

dar ai 12 V la bornele becului ? biggrin.gif


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