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cridaia
post 21 Jul 2008, 12:01
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sunt nou, si nu stiu daca s-a mai discutat, sau daca exista.............exista Laguna2 de 107 PS si 120 PS ? daca da, cum pot sa imi dau seama de diferenta fara actele masinii ?

multumesc anticipat......

am uitat sa specific..........1.9 DCI

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post 21 Jul 2008, 13:25
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Salut!

In talon trebuie sa gasesti o rubrica cu Putere maxim KW(kilovati)
Daca ai 88 e motorul de 120 de cai.
79, 107 cai.


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post 21 Jul 2008, 13:45
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Buna treaba...da el specifica acolo ....

"cum pot sa imi dau seama de diferenta fara actele masinii ?"


Cele e 120 de cai au cutie in 6 trepte in majoritatatea cazurilor...


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post 21 Jul 2008, 14:12
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Cele de 107 cai, neavand geometrie variabila, nu ar trebui sa aiba TRS, nu? Nici comanda geometriei.
Daca e asa se uita la turbina.


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post 21 Jul 2008, 14:36
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ma gandeam la varianta cutiei de viteze, in 5 trepte 107 PS si in 6 trepte 120 PS
sa fie oare singura diferenta ?
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post 21 Jul 2008, 17:05
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Daca o Laguna are cutie cu 6+1 trepte nu inseamna ca are neaparat 120 de cai.
Cu aceeasi problema se confrunta si un coleg de-al meu, in sensul ca nu stie exact cati cai putere are Laguna lui (1,9 DCI din 10.2005), desi la RAR i-au scris astia ca ar avea 107... dar surpriza s-a produs in momentul in care s-a comandat kit-ul de distributie: singura curea de distributie care i s-a potrivit a fost cea specifica L2 cu 130CP (am inteles ca aceasta are un dinte in plus). Mentionez ca pe actele din Franta scrie ca are 88kW(120CP). Ca urmare a toate astea, normal ca omul este confuz....
Dupa cate tin minte, uitandu-ma pe forum fara a cauta ceva anume, am gasit la un moment dat un link sau un tabel, ceva, in care erau specificate, in functie de seria masinii, mai multe date printre care si puterea motorului. Stiu exact pentru ca mi-am gasit atunci si masinutza mea in tabelul respectiv....


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post 21 Jul 2008, 21:19
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mai este o diferenta si la filtrul de motorina ,la varianta de 79kw este sigilat pentru ca are pompa de joasa presiune in rezervor


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post 22 Jul 2008, 07:05
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din pacate...................sunt tot mai confuz huh.gif

sunt si alte diferente vizibile ? daca exista acel tabel, se poate un link ?

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post 22 Jul 2008, 22:04
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QUOTE(adi_0434 @ 21 Jul 2008, 22:19)
mai este o diferenta si la filtrul de motorina ,la varianta de 79kw este sigilat pentru ca are pompa de joasa presiune in rezervor
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Cel de 107 nu cred sa aiba pompa de joasa in rezervor...dimpotriva...cele de 120 o au...

Cel de 107 este oarecum acelasi cu motorul de megane 1 1.9 dCi...si pompa de joasa sigur nu este in rezervor...

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post 22 Jul 2008, 22:50
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Cel mai simplu este sa se uite daca are TRS (cum a spus Silviu) pentru ca diferenta esentiala intre cele doua este de putere care vine de la geometria variabila.
Deci daca in partea cea mai din stanga sus in compartimentul motor (cum privesti spre masina) ai o piesa neagra din care ies niste furtunase de aceeasi culoare din care unul coboara spre jumatatea turbocompresorului care se cheama turbina, atunci ai geometrie variabila deci 120 de cai.

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post 23 Jul 2008, 07:20
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hai ca acum am intrat eu in ceata ,la mine in talon scrie 79 kw si am si eu trs(poza 2)
atasez doua poze

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post 23 Jul 2008, 08:24
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Prima poza este cu filtrul de motorina.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post 23 Jul 2008, 09:04
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Nu este cel mai simplu sa te duci la renault cu vin-ul si sa-i intrebi pe ei?Sau sa trimiti um mail la renault fr cu vin-ul si daca ai noroc te lamuresc ei...zic si eu... wacko.gif


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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:17
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QUOTE(dan73205 @ 22 Jul 2008, 22:50)
Cel mai simplu este sa se uite daca are TRS (cum a spus Silviu) pentru ca diferenta esentiala intre cele doua este de putere care vine de la geometria variabila.
Deci daca in partea cea mai din stanga sus in compartimentul motor (cum privesti spre masina) ai o piesa neagra din care ies niste furtunase de aceeasi culoare din care unul coboara spre jumatatea turbocompresorului care se cheama turbina, atunci ai geometrie variabila deci 120 de cai.
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Pai TRS am si eu dar tot 79kw mi-au scris in CIV si talon.

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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:19
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In 2003 mai mult ca sigur ca au pus motor de 120 cai.


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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:20
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Ce cod de motor ai?


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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:33
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Tipul F9Q-T7-54 Serie CO74730


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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:40
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Nu, nu ai cum sa ai TRS...motorul tau este de 107 cai...deci turbina cu geomatrie fixa....au scris corect cei de la RAR..


In schimb ai cutie in 6 trepte..

Pt. a evita discutii ulteriooare atasez o poza gasita tot pe reno.ro cu pozitionarea TRS-ului...

Numarul 11 este TRS-ul.

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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:45
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Da am cutie in 6 trepte.

TRS-ul nu este cumva cea din poza 2 postat de adi_0434,fiindca si eu am asa ceva.


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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:47
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post 23 Jul 2008, 12:55
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Uite am facut acuma o poza acesta ce este?

Pai acelasi lucru l-am pozat in motorul meu ce poza ai postat si tu.

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post 23 Jul 2008, 13:06
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Dupa mine TRS-ul e nr.2.
11 e senzorul presiune supraalimentare.


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post 23 Jul 2008, 13:13
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Eu totusi zic ca numarul 11 este...altii????


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post 23 Jul 2008, 13:19
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Mati innebunit amandoi. crazys4.gif

Am ambele piese pe motor si nr.2 si nr. 11,nu mai inteleg nimic,oricum multumesc nu mam facut mai destept.


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post 23 Jul 2008, 13:28
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11le intr-adevar imi pare a fi senzor de presiune admisie iar ce inseamna TRS ma depaseste biggrin.gif


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post 23 Jul 2008, 13:55
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Un test dyno va poate lamuri de CP ai masinii biggrin.gif


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Atunci tu de ce ai scris 120CP la semnatura?

In mod evident discutia era despre puterea declarata de producator, nu de puterea reala a masinii.


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alte pareri sunt binevenite biggrin.gif
sa vezi dracie ,am motor de 120cp si nu stiam radmasa.gif


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Codul pt cele cu 120 CP este F9Q 750, F9Q 756 valabil din martie 2001 pana acuma
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