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"Chip Tunning" Megane 2.2 1,6 16v, Stie sau a incercat cineva?

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post 20 May 2008, 11:19
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Salut! Acum 2 sapt. la revizia de 60.000 mi-a spus baiatul de la service Renault ca acum au ceva soft nou prin care ar creste puterea motorului 11-12 CP (10%). Treaba ar costa pentru masina mea cam 200 euro.
Stie cineva sau a incercat cineva? Merita?
Oricum eu cred ca am sa incerc cind fac rost de ceva bani....


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post 20 May 2008, 11:27
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Renault nu face Chiptuning..Vezi ca sunt anunturi pe forum...


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post 20 May 2008, 11:34
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Renault nu face Chiptuning

?????? Cum adica? Tipul care mi-a spus e ceva inginer acolo si mi-a zis ca treaba e f oficiala, adica nu se pierde garantia, se da factura etc. Plus ca intreba toti clientii care erau pe acolo daca nu vor asa ceva...

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post 20 May 2008, 11:42
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Camil>>suna la Vocea Cientului si spunele si lor...eventual da numele tipului..numele la service..etc..


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post 20 May 2008, 11:43
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Si sa vezi cum la revizia de 75k km n-o sa il mai gasesti acolo wink.gif


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camil, inca o data: MHY are dreptate, Renault nu ofera tipul asta de servicii in service-urile lor, din cate stiu si eu. In plus, vezi ca pentru tuning exista sectiune speciala pe forum.


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post 20 May 2008, 16:44
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De aproximativ 1 saptamana Coramex Deva dealer Renault face chip-tuning pt. masini "in showroom"...in parteneriat cu TCM tuning...asa ca daca esti din Deva de aceea ti s-a spus acest lucru ,mi s-a spus si mie - fara partea cu garantia masinii doar ca se ofera factura si garantie pe lucrare.


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post 20 May 2008, 16:50
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Tare-s curios daca renault stie.


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post 20 May 2008, 16:54
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Asta nu as putea sa-ti spun...dar treaba parea oficiala!


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si eu am auzit cand i-a spus unui tip cu o duba aceasi chestie cu tunningul si tot asa ca cica ar fi oficial


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post 20 May 2008, 17:59
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ar fi belea 11hp in+ si ceva facut sub garantie si motorul rezista ar fara probleme


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post 20 May 2008, 18:02
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in varianta lor de remapare motorul meu 1.5 dci 105 cp si 240 nm ar ajunge la 140 cp si 290 nm...


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post 20 May 2008, 18:03
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Eu as intreba intai la VC si dup-aia la RFR...


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post 20 May 2008, 18:05
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 20 May 2008, 16:50)
Tare-s curios daca renault stie.
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Mai mult ca sigur ca Renault nu stie.....Sau numai Renault Romania stie.. icon_mrgreen.gif ...

Oricum..treaba nu cred ca este oficiala...Ce tare ar fi sa-ti dea factura cu RRO si sa scrie la Servicii prestate ....Chiptuning...de la 100 cai la 140... icon_mrgreen.gif

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post 20 May 2008, 19:01
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Cred ca lucrurile se desfasoara un pic in paralel in sensul ca nu cred ca firmele concesionare Rno nu au voie sa desfasoare activitati conexe in domeniul auto...iar atata timp cat nu se folosesc de reclama falsa ( in sensul "pacalirii"clientului ca facand remaparea la ei nu se pierde garantia masinii) eu unul nu vad nimic rau in asta...iar din cate stiu eu TCM este o firma serioasa...asta o spune un viitor client al lor biggrin.gif


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post 20 May 2008, 19:40
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Multumesc f mult de raspunsuri. M-am lamurit un pic. Cred ca totusi am sa fac treaba asta sapt viitoare. Am sa va tin la curent cu ce se intimpla...


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post 20 May 2008, 19:58
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In conditiile in care nici un producator nu ofera chip tuning oficial ...


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post 20 May 2008, 20:39
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Da link.


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post 20 May 2008, 21:19
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Ala e unul care lucreaza la Reno si stie pe careva care face tunning! Atat si nimic mai mult!
Ia ganditi-va nitel: Eu, ca producator vand motoare de 1.5 dci si 1.6 in prostie. Urmatorul motor e foarte scump, dar ca sunt eu baiat bun ofer si o crestere de putere aproximativ egala cu cea de pe motorul mai mare la doar 200 euro? Si mai ofer si garantie! radmasa.gif
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post 20 May 2008, 21:30
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Sa detaliez un pic ( de dragul discutiei )
Cum pune-am la Rno Deva daca vrei sa-ti faci remapare, te duci... esti primit in anticamera zonei de service unde porti o discutie cu unul din mecanici de acolo ( eu am vorbit direct cu "seful") si ti se prezinta optiunile disponibile pentru masina ta.Masina se introduce in service si se efectueaza remaparea.Platesti la "casieria" Rno si ti se elibereaza o factura si garantia pe lucrare.
Deci mie nu mi se pare ca ar fi o chestie mascata de genul stie cineva pe altcineva...dar repet nu cred ca e o "afacere Rno" ci doar o activitate conexa a concesionarului respectiv


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post 21 May 2008, 10:55
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QUOTE(adrian mgn @ 20 May 2008, 21:30)
Platesti la "casieria" Rno si ti se elibereaza o factura si garantia pe lucrare.
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Ok..Ce scrie la servicii prestate?Si ce garantie ai? blink.gif


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post 21 May 2008, 11:43
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Eu am vazut doar beneficiarul unei remapari facand chestia asta nu m-am uitat pe factura lui sa vad ce scrie cat despre garantie ce mi s-a spus mie e ca daca apar probleme dupa remapare (probleme de genul erori ale CB nu ca iti pica turbina sau alte componente) vor fi remediate gratuit.

Acum eu dorind o remapare in viitor m-am interesat un pic cum sta treba cu garantia si m-am lamurit asupra a doua aspecte practice care poate difera putin de ce scrie intr-o reclama sau contract:

- unul e ca nu exista garantie pe componente mecanice sau electrice reala (chiar daca acestea pica sa zicem din cauza remaparii acest lucru este foarte greu de dovedit si oricand se poate da vina pe alte cauze mai ales ca unele componente se defecteaza si in lipsa remaparii) deci aici fiecare cu norocul lui si fiecare isi asuma un risc mai mare sau mai mic cand ia o astfel de decizie.In cele cateva discutii pe care le-am avut cu tunati si studiul meu nu am intalnit insa astfel de probleme "mecanice" (asta poate si pentru ca remaparea e relativ recenta pe piata romaneasca -... nu stiu) mai des intalnite fiind probleme de "soft" aparute si aici ma refer la anumite erori aparute si remediate intr-adevar gratuit.

- al doilea lucru ar fi ca daca tot te "remapezi" e bine sa o faci la cineva cu prestigiu in domeniu (poate am spus ceva banal dar diferentele de preturi dintre firme sau "particulari" tenteaza").

Repet ...este o parere personala deschisa oricaror discutii pro sau contra.


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pai o firma cu prestigiu in "remapare" nu este in niciun caz RRo,nu?


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post 21 May 2008, 12:08
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Am spus ca remaparea se face prin asociere cu TCM-ul care din ce am auzit inclusiv citit pe acest forum este o firma serioasa...

Sper sa se inteleaga ca posturile mele nu sunt o reclama pentru o anume firma !

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in varianta lor de remapare motorul meu 1.5 dci 105 cp si 240 nm ar ajunge la 140 cp si 290 nm...
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post 21 May 2008, 15:41
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Meghitzanul>>Datele astea sunt si la TCM pe site

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post 21 May 2008, 15:48
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Din punctul meu de vedere treaba e destul de clara. La dealerul ala Renault undeva la un nivel de service se afla o capusa care face chip tuning. Sau cineva de acolo are un prieten care face chiptuning. Si fraiereste pe oameni. In sensul ca las ca iti fac eu chip tuning, cu factura si garantie. Factura pe firma lu ala de chiptuning si garantie la modul, las ca daca ai probleme vii la mine eu care lucrez la reno la garantie si iti aprob schimbarile la componentele stricate. Sau cel putin nu o sa fac urat si nu te duc cu pluta. Adica iti trimit cererea la Renault Romania. Ca aia hotarasc daca se schimba sau nu o piesa scumpa.

Daca tipul ala nu o sa mai lucreze la Renault si te duci pe urma cu masina stricata cu pretentia de garantie, or sa rada aia si cu fundul de tine.

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QUOTE(adrian mgn @ 21 May 2008, 11:43)
...daca acestea pica sa zicem din cauza remaparii acest lucru este foarte greu de dovedit si oricand se poate da vina pe alte cauze mai ales ca unele componente se defecteaza si in lipsa remaparii
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Treaba e in felul urmator:La serviceul ala sunt niste baieti care sunt parteneri TCM TURBO. Garantia si Factura vin de la TCM TURBO si garantia este pe soft.Nu e vorba de nici o FRAIEREALA cu spun unii pe aici.

Da ca vreti sa va face-ti remapare bine daca nu nu.


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