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O mufa suspecta, Libera

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post 21 Apr 2008, 23:06
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In poza apare o mufa suspecta careia nu am reusit sai gasesc pereche ..ce rol o avea ?

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post 22 Apr 2008, 07:12
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si eu am aceeasi mufa care sta in aer.
nu stiu pentru ce este.


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post 22 Apr 2008, 09:22
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Probabil o optiune nemontata pe masina dar pentru care a fost instalatia electrica montata smile.gif


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post 22 Apr 2008, 12:21
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post 22 Apr 2008, 19:34
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Deci nu sunt singurul . Mersi


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post 22 Apr 2008, 23:40
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Auziti ce cred eu despre acea mufa...din moment ce toti o avem, inseamna ca foloseste la ceva...iar parerea mea e ca ar fi pentru a se conecta undeva atunci cand i se pune masinii un diagnostic in service, cand se conecteaza la vreun "computer" pentru a-ti spune ceva legat de eventuale defectiuni ale masinii...Oare nu o fi asa? naughty.gif

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post 22 Apr 2008, 23:43
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Nu smile.gif
Una la mana, tu n-ai injectie, deci n-ai ce diagnoza.
A doua la mana, priza de diagnoza e langa panoul de sigurante smile.gif


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post 22 Apr 2008, 23:50
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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 22 Apr 2008, 23:43)
Nu smile.gif
Una la mana, tu n-ai injectie, deci n-ai ce diagnoza.
A doua la mana, priza de diagnoza e langa panoul de sigurante smile.gif
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Totusi un rol are din moment ce e la toti...cine stie ce face smile.gif ...si zici ca ar trebui sa am o priza langa panoul de sigurante de la picioarele pasagerului din dreapta? Sincer n-am vazut-o pana acum...poate tre sa ma uit mai atent...ai vreo poza cu acea priza cumva? smile.gif


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post 23 Apr 2008, 11:45
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Diagnoza se face la masinile care au "calculator", restu din "surubele"
Am sa ma uit sa vad daca o am si eu in "aer"

Hai sa vedem cine ghiceste la ce foloseste, asta aflam de la cineva care o are cuplata.

Eu cred ca are ceva legatura cu cutia si se folosea la modelele cu cutie automata

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post 23 Apr 2008, 11:55
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unicool spre exemplu are cablaj separat, ca n-are injectie, iar R19 cu carburatie si BVA nu a fost. Deci zic eu ca pica ideea cu cutia automata.

Eu mai am in fata, in stanga farului din dreapta, o mufa asemanatoare, care dupa indelungi sapaturi am aflat ca este pentru senzorul de capota deschisa al alarmei.



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post 23 Apr 2008, 19:29
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Bun si asta la nici un model nu este folosita ? manualele tale ce spun ?(r19/16V)
Sincer ce ma roade pe mine este faptul ca acel ceas de presiune ulei , nivel ulei etc ..la mine nu gesticuleaza nimik ..nici la pornire , nici pe liber si ma gandesc ca o fi vreo mufa biggrin.gif pana la urma la un GTS acul ala ce trebuei sa faca ?


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post 23 Apr 2008, 20:31
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Sonda de nivel de ulei are mufa dreptunghiulara, cu 2 pini si e infipta in bloc, pe partea cu radiatorul, imediat langa planul de separatie cu baia de ulei.

Sonda de presiune de ulei - servita doar de 16V - are un singur papuc, minusul luandu-si-il de pe bloc.

Documentatia mea e saraca la capitolul cablaje, din nefericire.


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post 24 Apr 2008, 10:25
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La Gts cu contact pus indica nivel ulei din baie, dupa pornire sta jos.


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post 24 Apr 2008, 11:00
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Eh, sonda aia are prostul obicei sa se strice, asa ca nu cred ca nu a fost masina lui dotata cu sonda, doar refuza sa mai coopereze. Se duce si ia alta si o inlocuieste.


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post 24 Apr 2008, 12:44
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Sonda de ulei difera in functie de motorizare, eu am cautat pt diesel si nu am gasit neam


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post 24 Apr 2008, 12:55
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Era diferita si mufa? Din scheme pare ca ar fi o singura sonda la toate modelele.


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post 24 Apr 2008, 12:56
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mufa e la fel, la diesel baia este mai mare intra 5.5 L de ulei


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post 24 Apr 2008, 12:57
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Cred ca e la fel cu a mea. Zi-mi si mie, te rog, cele 4 caractere de dupa VF1.


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post 25 Apr 2008, 07:56
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post 25 Apr 2008, 19:07
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La mine VF1b53b0501427442

Ce cod are sensorul meu ? ma gandesc sa-il schimb biggrin.gif
cum il pot verifica? are valoare ohmica ?stie cineva ce valoare ?


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post 27 Apr 2008, 17:29
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Mufa vine in chiulasa la mine smile.gif (nu am nimic in aer)
Cred este pt. un senzor de temperatura apa care comanda modulul de preincalzire (bujiile incandescente)


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Salutare la toata lumea , in primul rand sunt nou pe forum si nu stiu daca postez unde trebuie , am un renault safrane 2,5 diesel dar si un renault 19 model europa .
In legatura cu mufa asta buclucasa la ren 19 al meu intra in pompa de servo ( este electrica pompa )


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post 28 Jan 2010, 03:14
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nu este mufa ce ar trebui sa mearga la pompa electrica de apa... cea care ar trebui sa mai impinga apa prin motor dupa ce acesta s-a oprit???


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Sa o impinga?? Unde... si De ce? smile.gif) si cand vrei sa pornesti o "aduce "inapoi??smile.gif)


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post 29 Jan 2010, 18:35
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dupa ce se opreste motorul de cele mai multe ori ... mai ales cand este cald afara.. electrovetilatorul mai merge o perioada pt a raci apa; numai ca daca motorul nu se mai invarte nici pompa de apa nu mai invarte deci nici apa nu mai circula prin motor;
deci electroventilatorul raceste doar apa ce a ramas in radiator; aici intervine aceasta poma electrica ce continua sa miste apa prin motor pt a o raci pe toata;
cam asta e ideea;
la majoriatea masinilor aceasta pompa lipseste sau este "shuntata"


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post 30 Jan 2010, 00:39
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OK, scuze reticenta dar imi vine greu sa cred ca dupa oprirea motorului si implicit a alternatorului mai ramane un consumator pornit cum ar fi pompa asta elctrica (in afara de electroventilator). Si la mine mai ramane pornit ventilatorul dupa oprirea motorului dar se opreste in 10-15 secunde. Isi mai da careva cu parerea?


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post 30 Jan 2010, 20:12
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Parerea mea , ca aceasta pompa poate exista doar in tarile calde si mi se pare normal prezenta ei .


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post 31 Jan 2010, 00:14
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Nu este necesara o pompa pentru "plimbarea" apei prin motor. Faptul ca este calda intr-o parte si rece in alta o face sa se miste. nu ai nevoie de pompa electrica. Iar o pompa care sta cand merge motorul ingreuneaza curgerea apei printre pale.


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post 31 Jan 2010, 00:58
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Degeaba nu credeti voi, baiatbelea are dreptate.
Pompa nu este alimentata decat dupa scoaterea cheii din contact si doar daca temperatura lichidului de racire depaseste 115 grade, pare-mi-se.

Din cunostintele mele pompa exista pe orice R19/16v.

(P.S. - ca sa fie clar ca n-a fost o inventie de moment a francezului, 15 ani (de fabricatie) mai tarziu am regasit o pompa similara pe Scenicul pe care-l am acum, si si-a facut simtita prezenta dupa un drum destul de... sportiv pe Transfagarasan)


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post 31 Jan 2010, 02:10
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doar daca temperatura lichidului de racire depaseste 115 grade,

fraza asta nu-mi suna bine smile.gif


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