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audiofilu'
post 19 May 2012, 11:38
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Inlocuitorul este NFP, am gasit la 45 lei/litru. Mai am cca 6-700ml din precedentul ulei, din TRP si ma intreb daca are ceva combinarea a doi litri de NFP cu 0,2 litri de TRP.


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Unde ai gasit NFP la 45 de lei litrul?Eu saptamana asta am cumparat NFP de la reprezentanta din Cluj, cica se gaseste numai la bidon de 5L si a costat 404 lei.
Am pus in cutie 2.2, daca sunt doritori pt restul ma pot contacta pe PM sau am topic la bursa
Dupa spusele celor din reprezentanta , noi cei cu PK6 avem 2 alternative la uleiul din cutie:Tranself NFP sau TRX
audiofilu`, eu sincer nu le-as combina

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NFP gaseai la 45 ron/l la magazinul online de uleiuri...

eu zic ca n-are nimic amestecul lor daca sunt ambele recomandate pentru PK6..., personal am amestecat in cutie si NFP cu NFJ (pt ca n-am gasit atunci NFP) si am facut de atunci kilometri "fara numar" fara sa remarc vreo problema...


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post 3 Jun 2012, 19:27
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Uleiul a fost cumparat exact de la magazia serviceului renault din Focsani. Am completat cu TRJ parca, tot pentru PK6, raportul 10:1 pentru NFP.
TRP era parca ulei de bucatarie iar asta ati vazut si voi ce culoare are si ce miros...


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post 7 Jan 2013, 19:25
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Azi am luat toate magazinele la rand sa caut TRP 75W80. Nu am gasit decat NFJ 75W80. Ce ziceti, sa mai caut, sau sa bag altceva decat trp? "Meseriasul" dela servis zice ca nu conteaza, daca se incadreaza in clasa GL 4 este OK.


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post 7 Jan 2013, 20:33
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Baga, pe riscul tau. In carte scrie clar ca la PK6 se baga NFP.


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post 8 Jan 2013, 21:36
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TRANSELF NFJ 75W-80
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Lubricant adapted to RENAULT vehicles with « J » family, TL4 and NDX gearboxes such as Twingo, Clio, Modus, Megane (except Megane/Scenic II PK4), Laguna (except 2,2DT, dci and V6 engines), Espace (2,0 and 1,9 dti) and
such as Kangoo models. Generally this lubricant meets the requirements of the mechanical gearboxes of cars and vans which are fitted with brass synchromesh rings (single or multicone shape).

PERFORMANCES
API GL4+
APPROVED BY RENAULT
Satisfies the international API GL4+ specification. Officially approved and recommended by RENAULT for gearboxes JXX, TL4 and NDX.





Elf Tranself NFP 75W80 (REPLACES TRANSELF TRP, TRZ, TRX)

Product Features & Benefits
* NFP TRANSELF 75W-80 gear oil is designed ELF Synthetic Technology for the very heavily loaded manual transmissions.
* NFP TRANSELF 75W-80 has been officially approved by RENAULT Pxx type gear boxes, crates, and Nissan-type P.
* NFP TRANSELF 75W-80 is specially designed for the family Renault gearbox Pxx type used in cars Vel Satis, Avantime, Espace IV (and Espace 2.0 and 1.9 DTI), Laguna DT 2.2, and V6 dCi Megane / Scenic II.

API GL-4+
Renault PXX
Nissan P

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post 8 Jan 2013, 23:09
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eu am laguna 1.9 dci cutie in 5 trepte an 2002 ce ulei pot baga in cutie ce firma etc ... ms ast raspuns 74 kw


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post 9 Jan 2013, 09:13
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QUOTE(fastoff @ 8 Jan 2013, 21:36)
TRANSELF NFJ 75W-80
USES
Lubricant adapted to RENAULT vehicles with « J » family, TL4 and NDX gearboxes such as Twingo, Clio, Modus, Megane (except Megane/Scenic II PK4), Laguna (except 2,2DT, dci and V6 engines), Espace (2,0 and 1,9 dti) and
such as Kangoo models. Generally this lubricant meets the requirements of the mechanical gearboxes of cars and vans which are fitted with brass synchromesh rings (single or multicone shape).

PERFORMANCES
API GL4+
APPROVED BY RENAULT
Satisfies the international API GL4+ specification. Officially approved and recommended by RENAULT for gearboxes JXX, TL4 and NDX.
Elf Tranself NFP 75W80
(REPLACES TRANSELF TRP, TRZ, TRX)

Product Features & Benefits
*  NFP TRANSELF 75W-80 gear oil is designed ELF Synthetic Technology for the very heavily loaded manual transmissions.
*  NFP TRANSELF 75W-80 has been officially approved by RENAULT Pxx type gear boxes, crates, and Nissan-type P.
*  NFP TRANSELF 75W-80 is specially designed for the family Renault gearbox Pxx type used in cars Vel Satis, Avantime, Espace IV (and Espace 2.0 and 1.9 DTI), Laguna DT 2.2, and V6 dCi Megane / Scenic II.

API GL-4+
Renault PXX
Nissan P
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multumesc pentru detalii. o sa mai caut si sper sa gasesc NFP.


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QUOTE(costel_36 @ 9 Jan 2013, 08:13)
multumesc pentru detalii. o sa mai caut si sper sa gasesc NFP.
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cauta si la magazinele online


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post 28 Jul 2013, 13:27
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mariusa10,cutia de renault laguna are in partea de sus o supapa de supraplin cu un furtun ,cand are prea mult ulei in cutie il arunca pe acolo,e chiar in partea stanga a masinii.


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post 28 Jul 2013, 19:47
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Eu cred ca din 2009 pana acum , a gasit colegul supapa de preaplin... nu crezi ? wise_guy.gif


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post 18 Sep 2013, 16:00
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Ma bate gandul sa schimb si eu uleiul. Din ce am citit aici, inteleg ca trebuie sa caut TRANSELF NFJ 75W-80? Motor 1,6 16v cutie 5+1. Cat imi trebuie?


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post 18 Sep 2013, 19:52
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Intra cam 2,8 litri !


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post 20 Feb 2014, 19:05
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deci totusi care e concluzia?
Cat ulei sa bag in PK6? maine vreau sa il schimb si eu... 2.2 sau 2.4 litri?

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post 20 Feb 2014, 23:45
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QUOTE(daniLaguna2 @ 8 Jan 2013, 23:09)
eu am laguna 1.9 dci cutie in 5 trepte an 2002 ce ulei pot baga in cutie ce firma etc ... ms ast raspuns  74 kw
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QUOTE(postasu @ 20 Feb 2014, 19:05)
deci totusi care e concluzia?
Cat ulei sa bag in PK6? maine vreau sa il schimb si eu... 2.2 sau 2.4 litri?

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Viscositate: 75W80
API Normative: API GL-4/GL-5
Omolagari ale Fabricantului: MIL-L-2105D
2,4 L
Nu cumparati ulei de proasta calitate,va poate provoca daune,deloc ieftine.
Si nu schimbati vascozitatea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(negue @ 18 Sep 2013, 16:00)
Ma bate gandul sa schimb si eu uleiul. Din ce am citit aici, inteleg ca trebuie sa caut TRANSELF NFJ 75W-80? Motor 1,6 16v cutie 5+1. Cat imi trebuie?
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Daca ai cutie manuala: JH3 5+1 iti trebuie:
Viscositate: 75W80
API Normative: API GL-4/GL-5
Omolagari ale Fabricantului: MIL-L-2105D
2,8 L
Numai bine.
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post 21 Feb 2014, 08:26
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maytow stai linistit ca nu am luat ceva aiurea: ELF NFP 75W80. (NFP este inlocuitorul lui TRP deoarece TRP nu se mai fabrica).
Ce e curios ca reprezentanta nu avea ulei NFP... tot ce aveau era NFJ...
Mersi de sfat... nu mai stiam ce si cum ... 2.2 sau 2.4 :-?


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post 21 Feb 2014, 09:35
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Sincer, peste tot scrie ca se pun exact 2.2 litri.
Intra si pe site-ul motul sa vezi ca iti recomanda tot aceeasi vascozitate si cantitatea este 2.2 litri.
Eu am pus NFP cand am schimbat ambreiajul + pinionul planetar.Dupa mai multe cautari pe site-urile din Franta, singura problema majora care apare atunci cand se schimba uleiul (altceava decat ELF)si vascozitatea este uzura accentuate a pinionului planetar.De altfel in Franta masinile mai vechi au fost chemate in service si a fost inlocuit uleiul de origine cu NFP-ul.


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post 21 Feb 2014, 09:43
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Ai dreptate ady... acum m-am uitat si eu.
Tu ai schimbat si ai pus 2.2 litri? cum s-a comportat dupa?


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post 21 Feb 2014, 09:50
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Se comporta la fel, nu am simtit nici o diferenta.Diferente se simt de cand am schimbat ambreiajul (la mine pierdea putin de tot lichid pe la rulmentul de presiune).Acum intra in viteze mult mai ok, nu mai prinde aproape deloc si nici treapta 1-a nu mai are probleme.
Am schimbat tot uleiul, nu am adaugat.L-am comandat de pe un site din bucuresti reprezentat ELF - liquid technology(recomand si pe ei) si e undeva la 40 ron pe sticla.

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post 21 Feb 2014, 09:56
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Eu l-am luat de la o magazin/service de aici (Ciclop mai exact). 50 lei/L.
Eu vreau sa il schimb ca sigur nu a fost schimbat niciodata.
Pai nu vreau nici eu sa completez... adica na desfacut "bushonul" de jos, lasat sa curga tot uleiul si pe urma pus cel care l-am cumparat.
Deci sa pun 2.2L. Am vazut pe forumul reno UK ca sa faci o gradatie cu o bucata de sarma si ca minimul 2.05L si maxim 2.35L.


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post 21 Feb 2014, 10:21
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Acum sincer sa fiu...nu cred ca o sa pui EXACT 2.2L poate o fi 2.1 sau 2.3 litri chiar nu cred ca o sa conteze atat de tare.Sa nu fie exagerat de mult sau prea putin si sa fie ceea ce spune producatorul.Oricum in cutie intra peste 4 litri asa ca nu vad ce rau ar face 100ml in plus.


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Oricum in cutie intra peste 4 litri asa ca nu vad ce rau ar face 100ml in plus.

Introdurea unei cantitati superioara fata de cea preconizata implica ca la functionare sa creasca presiune cu efect nedorit pentru simeringuri/garnituri.
Mai "bine" este sa se introduca cu 100 ml mai putin decat mai mult....ideal cantitatea exacta.

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post 21 Feb 2014, 12:29
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Atunci o sa ii spun sa bage 2.3 litri ca sa fie treaba sigura:))


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post 21 Feb 2014, 18:03
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Mai bine 2,2 cum spune manualul ca oricum nu curge chiar tot tot tot....


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post 21 Feb 2014, 19:34
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am facut si eu schimbarea...
Am bagat aproximativ 2.4L... iar uleiul care l-am scos a fost negruuuu.
Se simte mai bine acuma in mers.

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Se simte mai bine acuma in mers.


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post 21 Feb 2014, 20:33
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Nu am inteles ce vrei sa spui... dar na poate in esenta are ceva logica si legatura cu topicul asta ceea ce ai scris acolo


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