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Probleme pornire clio 1.9 dti, rezolvat - 2 bujii arse

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andreimarinoiu
post 18 Feb 2008, 15:09
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salutare!
sambata am facut plinul cu motorina de la petrom,top nordic..si azi dimineata am dat la automat 30 de sec pana a pornit..masina merge foarte bine,parca mai bine decat cu efix-ul care il bagam pana acum.dar oare de ce a pornit atat de greu?sa fie motorina sau altceva?
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post 18 Feb 2008, 15:10
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post 18 Feb 2008, 15:14
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nu au facut nici o pb pana acum cu toate frigurile posibile..s-o fi stricat vreuna totusi


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post 18 Feb 2008, 15:19
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E treaba simpla - verifica-le!


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post 18 Feb 2008, 15:21
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cum se verifica?la dacie stiam la asta habar nu am..


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post 18 Feb 2008, 15:48
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cu un cablu destul de lung sa ajunga la baterie de la fiecare bujie.
se scoate mufa de pe bujie si se pune un capat al cablului mai intai pe varful bujiei si apoi celalalt pe borna +, daca da scanteie pe borna bujia e buna.

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post 18 Feb 2008, 15:58
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sunt bujii incandescente..ce scanteie?


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post 18 Feb 2008, 16:15
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Verifica-le cum a spus ionutmar ca zice bine ce zice... este metoda cea mai simpla..

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post 18 Feb 2008, 16:20
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o sa verific!in afara de bujii pot fi si alte cauze?motorina nu e de la pompa,mi-a adus-o cineva dar e scoasa din rezervorul lui..iveco..o sa vad oricum bujiile,in mers e absolut ok,parca mai putin zgomotos motorul ca inainte.ma gandesc ca nu e de la injectoare sau ceva de genu din moment ce merge foarte bine..


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post 18 Feb 2008, 16:25
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Motorul 1.9 dTi este dieselul de generatie veche care porneste greu daca are bujii arse...nu ca cel dCi.... daca la tine sunt 1 sau chiar 2 bujii arse se simte la pornirea dimineata sau cand motorul este rece....

Bujiile sunt consumabile deci nu trebuie sa te sperie ca se mai ard....

Sfatul meu este sa gesesti bujii identice ca producator si timp de incandescenta pt. a lucra bine cu cele ramase, sau daca nu sa le schimbi pe toate 4...


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post 18 Feb 2008, 16:41
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le schimb,sper sa nu fie scumpe..tre sa fie de la reprezentanta?tinand cont ca le sch pe toate 4 si-s de acelasi tip ma gandesc sa iau de la un magazin care aduce..


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post 19 Feb 2008, 17:51
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precizez si ca temperatura apei creste mult mai repede ca inainte..e drept ca e mai caldut afara..asta de la ce sa fie?
maine vad care bulie e defecta daca e vreuna, e 45 ron bucata si 50 ron constatarea si manopera


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post 19 Feb 2008, 18:03
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Cam ala este pretul la bujii...manopera tot cam asa... ai putea salva banii de manopera si sa le schimbi tu...

Daca temperatura apei nu creste mai mult decat in mpod normal nu ai de ce sa iti faci griji...


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post 19 Feb 2008, 18:18
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nu,ramane tot acolo la jumatate..am intrebat un mecanic si zicea sa nu fie vreun injector infundat sau benzina in motorina..dar dupa ce porneste merge chiar mai bine ca inainte..sper sa fie bujiile:)


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post 19 Feb 2008, 18:20
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Pai vezi cate bujii ai arse...daca este una ar trebui sa se simta dar nu tare...dar cu 2 arse porneste destul de greu...


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post 19 Feb 2008, 18:24
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dau 30 de secunde la automat daca nu mai mult...invarte normal, scoate si fum..
precizes ca dupa aia toata ziua porneste imediat,instantaneu..numai dimineata face

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post 19 Feb 2008, 18:32
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sa ne spui cate bujii arse au fost...


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post 20 Feb 2008, 15:01
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erau 2 arse..erau champion,nu am gasit la fel am pus 2 bosch..
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post 20 Feb 2008, 22:45
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Nu conteaza atat de mult producatorul cat timpii de incandescenta sau mai bine spus in cate secunde devin incandescente...cum porneste dupa schimbarea lor?


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post 21 Feb 2008, 16:52
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pai azi a pornit absolut ok..nu am sesizat vreo diferenta fata de cum pornea inainte!si chiar de ar fi o mica diferenta e vreo pb pt motor?


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post 21 Feb 2008, 16:53
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OK, pai atunci problema rezolvata....


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post 21 Feb 2008, 16:58
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post 27 Feb 2008, 19:14
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la dci se poate sa porneasca la a 3-a cheie din cauza bujiilor arse?... am toate cele 4 buj arse:(..


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post 27 Feb 2008, 20:34
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PTR BONK,yeap ,daca e mai frig afara (dimineata in speta )e posibil sa dai de 2-3 ori la automat pana porneste...asa le-am avut si eu pe toate 4 arse si toata iarna mi-a pornit la a doua cheie...pana le-am schimbat ,stai linistit ca e o.k.dar schimba-le cat mai repede cu putinta ca e posibil sa uzezi alte componente dand la automat mai mult decat este necesar....


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