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post 27 Jan 2008, 23:48
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Aici Avantaje suplimentare: comportament extraordinar pe timp de iarna. Vrei sa pleci de pe loc? Dai drumu la boxe. Curata toata zapada din jur. Apoi opreste muzica, pentru ca nu ai putere in motor. Vrei sa opresti? Dai drumu la boxe, intra alternatoarele in functiune, frana de motor instant.

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post 27 Jan 2008, 23:52
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eu cred ca daca ar inchide usa nu ar mai avea prabrizul intreg


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post 27 Jan 2008, 23:55
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Alimentat de unde?


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post 28 Jan 2008, 02:35
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QUOTE(Catalin Marinarul @ 27 Jan 2008, 23:55)
Alimentat de unde?
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Foarte pertinenta intrebarea.

28 Jan 2008, 02:36:
QUOTE(RADU__ @ 27 Jan 2008, 23:52)
eu cred ca daca ar inchide usa nu ar mai avea prabrizul intreg
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Oricum dupa 2 piese cred ca ii zornaie tot ce e plastic prin masina la relanti smile.gif

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post 28 Jan 2008, 08:01
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frumos...dar pana la 17.000 mai e drum lung....


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post 28 Jan 2008, 08:17
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17000W? ar trebui sa pun botu' la toate aberatiile de pe net? daca scria 100 000 w credea cineva oare? dry.gif sigur se gaseau cativa..


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post 28 Jan 2008, 09:35
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Hmm.... 17.000 nu stiu ce sa zic, mi se par cam multi.... in facultate am fost la un revelion, a venit un nebun cu sunet de vreo 6.000 de W pentru petrecere. Dimineata ne cazusera ornamentele de la lustra si am crapat un geam.


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post 28 Jan 2008, 09:54
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post 28 Jan 2008, 11:39
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Eu ma intreb daca soferul mai aude ceva.


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P.M.P.O. adica? radmasa.gif Nu, ca d-aia erau cateva milioane, daca au vreo mie de wati d-aia boxe d-alea de 10W reali.
Aici nu-s nici pe departe 17.000W, dar sunt mai mult decat suficienti sa faci masina praf. Mi se facea mila cum vedeam tabla tremurand pe masina... tongue.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 13:22
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QUOTE(RainHawk @ 28 Jan 2008, 09:35)
Hmm.... 17.000 nu stiu ce sa zic, mi se par cam multi.... in facultate am fost la un revelion, a venit un nebun cu sunet de vreo 6.000 de W pentru petrecere. Dimineata ne cazusera ornamentele de la lustra si am crapat un geam.
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haiiiii cum sa crape geamu o fii fost si termopan putea sa crape geamu numai daca era pe toc de lemn si prins decat in cuie si avea joc mare da nu crapa de la muzica numai sa fii avut o presiune in camera enorma si nu cred eu ca avea asa mare presiune dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 13:37
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QUOTE(argon @ 28 Jan 2008, 09:54)
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radmasa.gif radmasa.gif d-aia PMPO radmasa.gif radmasa.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 14:39
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bai, da mi-ati luat-o inainte cu toate, si cu pmpo-ul si cu greierasii, pe bune nu a mai ramas nimic de comentat sad.gif.


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post 28 Jan 2008, 14:54
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fratele meu!!! dar ce naiba sa faci cu alea in masina.............


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post 28 Jan 2008, 15:04
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QUOTE(argon @ 28 Jan 2008, 08:17)
17000W? ar trebui sa pun botu' la toate aberatiile de pe net? daca scria 100 000 w credea cineva oare? dry.gif sigur se gaseau cativa..
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Wooferele sunt marca Fi seria BTL de 18''. Fiecare woofer are 2000 W RMS deci in total vreo 8000 w RMS. Fiind woofere SPL, ele pot urca pana la 4000 W RMS fiecare pentru perioade scurte, in timpul competitiilor (in cadrul testelor spl).
Argon ti se pare atat de imposibil 17000 W? Iti zic eu ca nu e. Ia imagineaza-ti un montaj cu 4 d-astea: http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/english/05_pw18.htm
Iti garantez ca se gasesc atat baterii cat si amplificatoare care sa le impinga cum trebuie.
Ca fapt divers ia cititi aici: http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/press/news/iascaSPL.html


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post 28 Jan 2008, 15:07
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Scott’s vehicle competes with 13 TS-W5102SPL subwoofers powered by 52 PRS-D5000SPL amplifiers, 128 16-volt Kinetic batteries and three Ohio Generator 285-amp alternators producing more than 157,000 watts of power.

O.M.G!!! biggrin.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 15:16
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post 28 Jan 2008, 17:53
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asteptam cu interes ca cei de la topicul "am zarit un cocalar" sa-si monteze pe masina un astfel de sistem pentru ca gutza sa rasune pana le cade tabla smile.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 18:22
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17KW/12V = 1400A. Are cineva idee ce sectiune de fir trebuie ca sa tina un curent atat de mare? Nu mai vorbesc de alternatoarele care sa produca un astfel de curent si de puntile redresoare care sa tine 1400A.

Dupa calculele mele ar trebui folosite cate 5 fire cu diametrul de 1.2cm Cu multifilar in paralel ca sa tine un curent atat de mare. Ganditi-va numai cum se leaga intre ele astfel de fire...nu mai zic de problemele serioase...


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post 28 Jan 2008, 20:14
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Plus ca un alternator mai baban de masina americana nu cred ca sare de 200 de A la putere maxima, asta inseamna sa ti motorul doar in 5000 rpm sa ai maximul..pana la 1400 e cale lunga blush.gif Asta daca nu e modificata cum zice in link-urile de mai sus, dar aia nu mai e masina, e de dus pe platforma la expozitii...

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post 28 Jan 2008, 21:51
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Argon incerci sa te convingi singur ca astfel de masini nu exista radmasa.gif
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"three Ohio Generator 285-amp alternators producing more than 157,000 watts of power." Asta inseamna 157 kW, cred ca e o gluma (285 A la 14 V = 3990 W, deci 3 bucati ar genera in cel mai bun caz 12000 W, deci 12 kW. Probabil si aici puterea este tot ceva de genu' PMPO biggrin.gif )


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post 28 Jan 2008, 21:55
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Amedeus citesti printre randuri: "Scott’s vehicle competes with 13 TS-W5102SPL subwoofers powered by 52 PRS-D5000SPL amplifiers, 128 16-volt Kinetic batteries and three Ohio Generator 285-amp alternators producing more than 157,000 watts of power. " Toate astea genereaza 157000 wati, alternatoarele doar incarca bateriile pentru proba. Oricum si alea tin o perioada de timp limitata, doar e proba SPL nu SQ.
Ma enerveaza cand ziceti de PMPO. Aici nu vorbim de domotec, zgomotec, eurostar etc.
Daca nici datele scrise de cei de la Pioneer nu vi se par reale inseamna ca chiar nu vreti sa credeti ca exista asa ceva blink.gif


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Eu asa am inteles (ca se refera la sursa de alimentare). Totusi e cam exagerat ce scrie acolo. ohmy.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 22:01
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crezi ca pragul de 180 db se atinge usor? Iti trebuie ceva putere sa ajungi acolo.


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Da, dupa ce scrie aici se refera la puterea audio nu la puterea generatoarelor: "In his vehicle, he uses two TS-W8102SPL 38cm subwoofers powered by eight PRS-D5000SPL amplifiers, 24 Kinetic batteries and three Ohio Generator 250-amp alternators, producing more than 24,000 watts of power. "

Totusi dintr-o sursa de 12 kW sa scoti o putere cel putin dubla, inseamna sa ai un randament al amplificatoarelor de 200 %, care parca e cam exagerat. huh.gif


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post 28 Jan 2008, 22:07
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bateriile alea de 16v le-ai luat in considerare?
apropo, aia cu 24000W e a doua masina de show a lor.


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Da, am observat ca e a doua masina, de acolo am tras concluzia ca se refera la audio si nu la generatoare care sunt cam tot alea.


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post 28 Jan 2008, 22:12
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ok cu ochiul.gif

uite un filmulet frumos:


si o dacie break (se vede clar lipsa de putere a amplifului) smile.gif


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AR-18-MOS: Ia uitati aici Eurostar-uri laugh.gif radmasa.gif


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