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Laguna 3, noua laguna :)

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post 31 Aug 2007, 11:15
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Va rog frumos opriti comparatiile ... daca vreti discutii vs. va rog faceti un alt topic. Orice alte raspunsuri gen Laguna vs. Ford Honda etc. se vor sterge.


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post 31 Aug 2007, 11:16
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V-am reportat la moderatori. Ce dracu? intru si eu ca sa citesc despre Laguna 3 si cand colo ce vad ? iar versus cu mondeo ... deschideti fratilor toipic despre mondeo si exprimati-va acolo.


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post 31 Aug 2007, 11:41
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Avem un topic special la Cafea ..Mondeo vs Laguna....asa ca....


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post 31 Aug 2007, 19:27
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Un pdf interesant despre sistemul de virare cu rotile din spate al noii Laguna:
http://put.edidomus.it/auto/mondoauto/attu...ctive_drive.pdf


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post 31 Aug 2007, 20:23
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Interesant faptul ca au renuntat la recircularea automata. 114.jpg ( Size: 202.33k ) Number of downloads: 177


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post 31 Aug 2007, 20:25
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La ce te referi prin asta?


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post 31 Aug 2007, 20:32
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La versiunea actuala, butonul pe care este focus in imaginea alaturata are 3 functii:
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- nici un led aprins: aerul se ia numai de afara
- led portocaliu aprins ( ca in imagine ): sistemul de climatizare trece automat pe recirculare cand calitatea aerului de afara nu este conforma. Functioneaza cat de cat rezonabil, dar da de multe ori si gres.
- led rosu aprins ( cel de sub cerculet fara A ): numai recirculare. Totusi, sistemul trece automat de pe aceasta functie pe cea de recirculare automata dupa aproximativ 20 minute, parca. Sa nu se sufoce lumea in masina. smile.gif


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post 31 Aug 2007, 20:42
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Din ce am citit o sa fie imbunatatiri majore la directie si suspensii fata de actuala generatie. Asa ca ar trebui sa nu mai existe handicap pe partea asta in comparatie cu "nemtestile". smile.gif

Singurul meu regret este ca nu au facut si o versiune cu portbagaj separat, nu lift-back.
Credeti ca exista vreo speranta sa faca pe viitor si o astfel de varianta?



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post 31 Aug 2007, 20:42
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Are si chestia asta. Dar se face automat. Daca se detecteaza un miros neplacut se intra automat pe recirculare. Am citit sigur de asta. Asadar, practic acum punctele 1 si 2 din lista sunt contopite in unul singur.
De asemenea foarte mult laudat era si sistemul soft, prin care temperatura din interior era realizata cu un minim de curent de aer.

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post 31 Aug 2007, 20:53
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Inseamna ca au facut un sistem intr-adevar inteligent de climatizare. Mi-au placut functiile soft si fast. Chiar sunt curios cat de eficiente sunt in raport cu clasicul auto. Ma miram ca au renuntat la recircularea automata.

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post 1 Sep 2007, 10:30
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pe prima tv este o prezentare Laguna 3 la emisiunea autoforum...frumoasa masina...


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post 1 Sep 2007, 11:58
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post 2 Sep 2007, 22:48
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Preturile in Olanda:

1.6 16V Expr.

27.250 euro

1.6 16V Dynamique

29.000 euro

2.0 16V Expression

28.600 euro

2.0 16V Dynamique

30.350 euro

2.0 16V T aut. Dynamique

33.150 euro

2.0 16V T aut. Initiale

38.150 euro

2.0 dCi 130 Expression

31.900 euro

2.0 dCi 130 Dynamique

33.650 euro

2.0 dCi 150 Expression

32.900 euro

2.0 dCi 150 Dynamique

34.650 euro

2.0 dCi 150 aut. Dynamique

36.150 euro


2.0 dCi 150 aut. Initiale

41.150 euro

2.0 dCi 175 Dynamique

35.850 euro

2.0 dCi 175 Initiale

40.850 euro

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2.0 16V Expr.

29.800 euro

2.0 16V Dynamique

31.550 euro

2.0 16V T aut. Dynamique

34.350 euro

2.0 16V T aut. Initiale

39.350 euro

2.0 dCi 130 Expression

33.100 euro

2.0 dCi 130 Dynamique

34.850 euro

2.0 dCi 150 Expression

34.100 euro

2.0 dCi 150 Dynamique

34.850 euro

2.0 dCi 150 aut. Dynamique

37.250 euro

2.0 dCi 150 aut. Initiale

42.350 euro

2.0 dCi 175 Dynamique

37.050 euro

2.0 dCi 175 Initiale

42.050 euro

Cu vreo 7000 de euro mai mari ca alea din Franta. Vreau acum sa ii intreb pe cei care zic ca masinile din Romania sunt mai proaste decat alea din franta pentru ca sunt mai ieftine, oare astea din Olanda sunt mult mai bune decat alea din Franta?


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post 2 Sep 2007, 23:40
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taxe si impozite tongue.gif Dupa aceste poze... reiterez ca atat noua Laguna cat si noul Mondeo sunt ...some very ugly mofo cars .. parerea mea smile.gif


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post 3 Sep 2007, 09:55
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Costa mult Laguna. Nu cred ca o sa aiba vanzari bune.


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post 3 Sep 2007, 10:00
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Cam prea scumpa intradevar.


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post 3 Sep 2007, 10:02
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Laguna se vinde in Europa 55% - 60% pentru flote. Important va fi cu m arata pe interior, iar pe interior arata totusi cum arata...
S-ar putea sa se vanda mai bine ca precedenta serie.


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post 3 Sep 2007, 10:05
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blink.gif Preturile de mai sus sunt mai mari decat ale unui BMW 3 in Romania!!!

Probabil, preturile in Romania vor fi cu 1000-1500 Euro mai mari decat echivalentul pentru actuala generatie. Altfel, nu stiu cine ar mai cumpara-o.


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Mie incepe sa-mi placa din ce in ce mai mult exteriorul....astept sa o vad si in realitate...interiorul mi se pare absolut superb....


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post 3 Sep 2007, 12:27
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1.6 16V Dynamique

29.000 euro WTF???????? Ce pret e asta?

Opel Vectra Cosmo 2.8i 24V V6 250CP Automatic e 26,850 euro DDP!!!!


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post 3 Sep 2007, 13:18
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Ok, dar totusi interiorul este cu mult peste Opel Vectra Cosmo. Mi se pare ca nu suporta comparatie. O fi exteriorul discutabil dpdv al design-ului, insa interiorul arata impecabil.


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post 3 Sep 2007, 16:27
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1.6 16 V versus 2.8i 24V V6 ..plus ca si versiunea aia de la Opel e super echipata....eu as alege Opel. Bine, consideram faptul ca pretul pt Vectra este din Ro. De abia astept sa vad preturile pt Laguna. Daca sint la fel...e nasol!


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post 3 Sep 2007, 20:05
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Opelul ala in Olanda unde Laguna are pretul ala, costa in mod sigur peste 45.000 de euro.


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NEW LAGUNA: LARGE TOURING CAR EMITTING JUST 130G/KM OF CO2


New Laguna confirms its environmental excellence, with the 110 hp dCi version achieving record low emission levels for a car of this size and this category. With 130 g/km of CO2 (which corresponds to a fuel consumption of 4.9 litres per 100 km on a mixed cycle), this version combines the properties of a powerful touring car (110 hp, 240 Nm) with very reasonable running costs. And these impressive emission and fuel consumption figures are achieved by affordably priced high volume models.

Laguna dCi 110
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195/60 R 16’’
130
4.9
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205/60 R 16’’ Alloy
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215/50 R 17’’ Alloy
136
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The Authentique and Expression versions are fitted with 16’’ wheels as standard. The Dynamique and Privil&egrave;ge versions are fitted with 17’’ wheels as standard (depending on the country) and can be fitted with 16’’ wheels.

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post 4 Sep 2007, 20:19
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Frumoasa masina, chiar apreciez faptul ca ssilviu posteaza atatea poze. Imi place din ce in ce mai mult.
Insa preturile din alte tari n-au nicio relevanta. Eu am inteles ce a vrut ssilviu sa zica, pt ca el s-a referit la diferenta de pret intre Olanda si Franta, si ca ea nu reflecta o calitatea superioara respectiv inferioara a masinilor vandute acolo.
In fine, in Romania pretul va fi mai mult decat acceptabil, sunt convins de asta, analizand diferenta de pret intre laguna 2 si laguna 3 din Olanda. Asteptati preturile si nu mai comparati aiurea pretul din Olanda cu pretul altor modele din Romania. Nu are sens


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Daca ne luam dupa lista de preturi de mai sus, s-ar putea ca noua Laguna sa fie o masina mai exclusivista chiar decat Modus....asta daca tinem cont ca nici varinata precedenta nu a inregistrat vanzari prea mari la noi in tara...rolleyes.gif



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post 5 Sep 2007, 08:22
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Am si eu o intrebare. In poza de mai jos, ce reprezinta dracia din dreapta sus a display-ului? E un "6" si 5 patratele. "6" presupun ca e treapta cutiei automate (cu toate ca la 90 km/h e cam subturat cred). Dar patratelele? blush.gif
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Cred ca este pozitia schimbatorului. Care are din ce vad 4 pozitii in linie, drive, neutru, mers cu spatele si ce o mai fi, si in stanga a 5-a pozitie care este pozitia cutiei secventiale. Banuiesc ca era pe secvential la 90 intr-a 6-a.

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Hai ma baieti, asteptati si voi preturile de ROMANIA, nu va luati dupa toate listele din alte tari unde si inainte Renault-urile erau scumpe.

In Olanda un Megane Sedan incepe de la 22.865 € si un 1.5 105 cu ceva optionale da in peste 30.000 €. Nu ma credeti ? Renault.NL - Intrati la configurator...

Asa ca nu ne putem lua dupa ei.

Ce am observat acum e ca Reno a adoptat moda penibila de la VAG sa puna o bucata neagra de plastic in spoiler, care arata urat daca masina nu e neagra, si e de ex, gri. Uitati-va la spate. E chiar urata.


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