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post 31 May 2005, 16:19
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Pai atunci eu nu cred ca e piscata garnitura de chiulasa ... merg pe radiator cel mai mult ... ai model din acela bizar de mic pentru cat e motorul de mare ? (adica ... fratemio' are pe R21 1.7 un radiator ca mori de ras cand il vezi ... cel de pe R5 era mai mare decat ce are el ...) daca da poti incerca sa iti montezi unul mai mare desi sunt 99% sanse sa nu mearga nici cum ... dar no' ... daca nu ia unul nou daca poti macar in probe sa vezi cum se comporta cu ala ...

Aaaaa dar apropos ... aerisirea e corect facuta ? ai borcanul de expansiune pe radiator sau separat ? ai "ventile" de aerisire sau se face automat ?


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post 31 May 2005, 16:32
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mda...radiatorul e ala mic mic mic mic de tot smile.gif
oricum dupa parerea multora subdimensionat rau de tot...
si din nefericire nu prea incape unu mai mare...s-ar lovi de faruri...
ma rog, de un far (in stanga) si de vasul de ulei de la servodirectie (in dreapta)

borcanul de expansiune e separat, si ventile n-am (decat unul intr-unul din colturile de sus ale radiatorului)

ma mai batea pa mine un gand....sa scot radiatorul de freon din fata celui de apa...dar nu stiu cat de benefica va fi miscarea...si dup`aia n`o sa mai am aer conditionat... sad.gif(


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post 31 May 2005, 16:42
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Nu trebuie sa scoti nimic ... daca asa a fost gandit asa trebuie sa stea si asa sta si functioneaza fara probleme ... teoretic dupa ce motorul s-a incalzit in asa fel incat sa porneasca ventilatorul ai putea ridica borcanul de expansiune sus ... cat de mult poti ... si fara dop ... si sa dai drumul cu atentie la ventil ... una ca te frige de n-ai noroc si doi banuiesc ca este de plastic si la tine cum am avut si eu si din cauza vechimii si a temperaturii se poate rupe (am patit eu) si atunci sa vezi placere ... (am gasit la dezmembrari altul ... dar nu am umblat cu masina cateva ziel) si asa sa faci aerisirea ... adica tii ventilul deschis pana iese numai apa ... si sa vezi dupa asta cum e cu temperatura ... daca se mentine mai ai variantele de mai sus cu radiatorul ... eu zic sa le incerci pe astea inainte de a desface motorul pentru garnitura ...


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post 31 May 2005, 17:08
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as putea sa fac asta...dar vasul nu cred ca se va ridica prea mult...
si ventilu` e de bronz...fuse skimbat


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post 31 May 2005, 20:02
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post 31 May 2005, 20:10
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http://www.adelaida.ro/product_info.php?cP...&products_id=92

asta-l iau...sa ii sun maine sa-i intreb cat face...
merci mutl de tot jagoman!


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post 31 May 2005, 20:19
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Ia vezi aici

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Cg9_e...u+digital&hl=ro

sau pdf:
http://www.adelaida.ro/adelaida/catalog/pu...ERMO_UMIDIM.pdf

dupa cum am vazut eu 569mii + transport

Sunt curios cum functioneaza.


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post 1 Jun 2005, 07:32
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r19, se stie ca motoarele 1.8 16v merg mai incalzite fata de restul, temperatura sta pe undeva intre 90 si 100, iar punctul de fierbere este mult peste 100 de grade datorita presiunii din sistem. In alta ordine de idei, stii ca la renault radiatorul de incalzire din masina merge permanent, exista doar o clapeta care obtureaza calea ca aerul cald sa nu intre in masina.
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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:10
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stiu...da` eu nu stiu unde sunt acele 100 de grade pe indicator...aia e problema mea.

"buna ziua,
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pretul este de 483.000lei cu tva.
va asteptam cu o comanda ferma.
va multumim."

raspunsu` de la adelaida...
as cam da 500k... smile.gif


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:17
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Sunt si eu curios de ceva ... unde vei lega/monta/pune senzorul de temperatura ?


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:18
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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:22
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eu deocamdata l-am bagat intr-un bosaj al chiulasei, imi indica cu aprox. 5 grade mai putin(pt ca nu intra in contact cu apa)


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:30
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Intereasant ... pai cum poti face sa-l pui in contact cu apa ? la R19 din cate stiu eu nu exista locul acela unde ai pus tu afisajul ... la tine afisajul indica pana la 99 grade (daca trece la 100 sau peste ce se intampla) ? cu minusul cum face ?


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:33
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nu ma intereseaza asa mult sa imi arate si peste 100.... e deja nasol daca mi-a ajuns acolo.... si cand este sub 0 sau peste 100 arata E2
si daca te uiti bine, vezi ca eu am r5 gtt, nu r19...


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:38
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E nasol dac ajunge sau trece la 100 grade ok ... eram doar curios ce afiseaza acolo in conditiile date ... YKNOT am vazut ce masinuta ai tu wink.gif ... am facut referinta si la masinuta lui R19/16v ... ca si el vrea un astfel de indicator ... eram curios unde l-ar monta si el ...


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:41
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yknot, asta a zis si andrei, ca NU exista locul ala la R19...
eu ma gandeam sa-l pun pe bloc, imediat langa celelalte 2 sonde de temperarura, dar la fel ca la yknot indicatia va fi putin eronata din aceleasi motive ca si la el...iar afisasjul...undeva prin masina...aia sa fie problema mea! smile.gif

P.S nu tremura masina, yknot, stand la turatia aia asa mica ? smile.gif

si iote ca 5u` avea sonda de presiune de ulei, ca si la mine smile.gif probabil ca le-or fi pus doar pe modelele cu motoare ceva mai mari...


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:42
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locuri pt montat se gasesc slava domnului intr-un bord wink.gif


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:44
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cand am cumparat-o, masina mea nu avea multe..... nici macar nu era turbo.... si bordul care il vezi, este de r21 quadra


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:46
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QUOTE(yknot @ Jun 1 2005, 12:44 PM)
si bordul care il vezi, este de r21 quadra

Aha te-am prins ... wink.gif ... nu mai vazusem niciunde un astfel de bord pe R5 ... smile.gif hehe ... oricum super masinuta ... dar din ce an este ? brodul stii de pe ce model exact ... adica din ce an ? motorul e original si ai mai adaugat una alta sau ai schimbat tot pe el ?

Ce faruri sunt alea de pe masina ? ca de R5 nu par a fi ...


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smile.gif si aia o masina frumoasa smile.gif (21Q)
m-am documentat smile.gif stai mai bine ca mine, yknot smile.gif 138 de cai / tona (la tine) fata de 133 de cai pe tona (la mine)

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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:51
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bordul(ceasurile) este de la un r21 quadra 2.0 turbo, din 1992, la masina i-am schimbat cutia, amortizoarele fata, fuzetele, etrierii, discurile..... etc.... si farurile sunt ale ei, numai ca am modificat un pik capota


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De unde are R5 o tona ? am inteles acum yknot ... si turbina ?


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post 1 Jun 2005, 11:52
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o frumusete smile.gif ...dar la cele 120kg ale mele, putin cam mica wink.gif


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andrei, nici n-am zis ca are o tona smile.gif n-are nici 138 de cai smile.gif
855 kg si 119.6 PS (118.0 bhp) (88 kW)smile.gif


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120 cp / ~700kg...


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QUOTE(R19/16v @ Jun 1 2005, 12:48 PM)
m-am documentat smile.gif stai mai bine ca mine, yknot smile.gif 138 de cai / tona (la tine) fata de 133 de cai pe tona (la mine)

Pai aici nu asta ai spus R19 ? sau mi-e somn rau ?


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turbina, galeriile, intercoolerul, carburatorul, racitorul de ulei... etc...... sunt si ele in plus fata de ce am cumparat eu


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te-ai cam jucat cu ea, nu ? smile.gif frumos proiect!


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initial masina a fost 1.4 aspirat, 72 cp


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