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vladis
post 15 Oct 2012, 14:24
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Salut,

Pt clio II 1.5 dci 2006 trebuie schimbat ambreiajul
Am doua oferte
LUK 470 lei
Valeo 430 lei

Care e mai bun?
Ce sa aleg?

Multumesc!
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post 15 Oct 2012, 16:39
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Salut! Dintre cele doua as merge pe luk....

In oferta nu este cumva si sachs ? Pentru ca raportul calitate/durabilitate este net superior


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post 15 Oct 2012, 18:01
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Valeo este cel original...dar cica si dupa numai 20000km vine iar zgomotul de arc binecunoscut la clio symbol...Luk depinde ce noroc ai....recomandarea ar fi Sachs...care am auzit ca ar fi mai bun ! si cam la fel la pret !

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post 16 Oct 2012, 14:13
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recomand SACHS , chiar daca e mai scump.. am avut valeo si acum am sachs.. mult mai durabil si merita banii


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post 16 Oct 2012, 16:36
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Eu nu iti recomand LUK. Am schimbat ambreiajul original pe la 150 000 km. In acea perioada am schimbat si la un Kangoo aceeasi motorizare, acelasi ambreiaj in service-uri diferite. Dupa o perioada de timp au aparut niste vibratii cand plec usor din ambreiaj care nu erau existau inainte. Cand pornesc masina, la Clio rar la Kangoo des, cand debreiez parca nu cupleaza si sare, face un zgomot foarte urat. Apas si debreiez iar si dispare zgomotul.

Ori am avut ghinion si au fost montate ambele prost (desi nu vad ce...), ori am nimerit proaste, nu stiu.

Eu nu iti recomand LUK. Daca a venit de fabrica cu Valeo, Valeo sa fie.

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post 16 Oct 2012, 17:35
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Iezact, daca n-ai Sachs, pune Valeo.


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post 17 Oct 2012, 14:48
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Acum ideal ar fi sa gasesti un Valeo Made in France. (mai exista si Made in Turkey).


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post 18 Oct 2012, 07:24
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Nu iti recomand Valeo,cel putin modelul care se vinde pe Okazii "Made in France"(asa sustine vanzatorul).Am cumpart eu unul in primavara iar dupa aprox. 1000KM am fost nevoit sa-l schimb din cauza trepidatiilor mari aparute la debreierei.L-am inlocuit cu un kit AISIN made in Japan(luat din magazin) si nu am mai avut probleme de atunci.Sunt multe piese contrafacute pe piata noastra.Sfatul meu este sa nu cauti chilipiruri pe internet.


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post 18 Oct 2012, 09:26
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Tu ai avut probleme nu din cauza marcii Valeo, ci din cauza faptului ca era contrafacut.
Sa nu uitam ca, din fabrica, masina vine cu ambreiaj Valeo.


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post 6 Nov 2012, 15:25
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Ai MARE grija cu kiturile Valeo, eu am luat teapa, cred ca este contrafacut ce am eu acum pe masina (clio II dci). Dupa montare a fost in regula, dar dupa aprox 4-5000 de km vibreaza la plecare si cupleaza destul de brusc, e greu de controlat.

M-am bucurat degeaba cand l-am cumparat - mi s-a parut ca fac o economie, dar acum sunt nevoit sa il schimb din nou, ironia este ca merge mai prost decat kitul vechi, care era uzat bine de tot.

E fix TEAPA. Da un ban, ia-ti sachs sau un valeo ORIGINAL, nu cumpara de oriunde. excl.gif

PS: 430 sau 440 am dat pe el.


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post 6 Nov 2012, 16:25
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de unde ti-ai luat kitul?


probabil ca daca il luai din reprezentanta nu se intampla asta.


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post 6 Nov 2012, 19:52
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Sunt si aici ceva informatii, inclusiv despre ambreiaje Valeo Franta, LuK Germania "originale"...

http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopic=27440&st=690

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post 15 Apr 2014, 13:14
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Am comandat Valeo, maine ma duc sa mi-l monteze.

Sper sa tina.
pret kit 480 ron, manopera 350.


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post 15 Apr 2014, 17:55
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daca e valeo made in frace ai facut o alegere buna, daca e turkey.... sad.gif


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post 16 Apr 2014, 15:14
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Scrie pe el made in frace si pe placa si pe disc.

L-am schimbat acum 1h, pare in ok.

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post 16 Apr 2014, 16:04
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E bun, o sa te tina mult fara probleme.

Daca mai ai cum, pune te rog o poza cu eticheta de pe cutie sa se vada codul produslui, poate mai sunt si altii interesati.

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post 18 Apr 2014, 10:08
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Cam asta e pe cutie. Cod 821183.
Dimensiune 180mm pentru motorul de 1.4 8V

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post 18 Apr 2014, 10:13
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Nu se poate schimba doar discul de ambreiaj si rulmentul de presiune, fara placa de presiune ?
Banuiesc ca in general discul se uzeaza, placa de presiune mai putin.


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post 18 Apr 2014, 13:41
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Se poate schimba doar o singura piesa din cele 3 care formeaza kit-ul.....dar operatiunea de schimb ambreiaj este complicata pentru ca implica demontare cutie viteza/planetare/etc.
De asta este recomandat sa schimbi toate cele 3 piese.....chiar daca una din ele nu prezinta uzura avansata.

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post 18 Apr 2014, 14:29
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S-ar putea ca codul original sa fie cel ascuns de eticheta verde.

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post 18 Apr 2014, 15:40
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Exact acolo ma uitam si eu dat sunt doar cele 5-6 cifre de mai sus. Nu e vorba doar de manopera dar o singura piesa cost cat aproape tot kitul. Logic ce ai alege?

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post 18 Apr 2014, 19:46
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Se uzeaza si placa destul de mult in locul in care apasa rulmentul.


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Asa repede s-a dus ambreiajul?


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post 13 Feb 2015, 20:56
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Salut baieti.

Am tot citit topicurile si am vazut ca multi recomanda sachs asa ca o sa merg si eu pe sachs. Vorba aia, daca facem o treaba o facem calumea de la inceput. Eu am cumparat mereu piese de pe autokarma(sa nu se considere reclama). Din ce am vazut la modele acolo, sachs are diametrul 215 fata de 220 cum am vazut de exemplu la LUK.
Pt 1.5 dci, care este pana la urma diametrul corect sau merg amandoua? mersi.


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post 15 Feb 2015, 17:23
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Chiar e mai bun Sachs decat Valeo?


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IT ALL STARTED IN 1923 WITH THE PRODUCTION OF BRAKE LININGS AND CLUTCH FACINGS IN A WORKSHOP IN SAINT-OUEN, JUST OUTSIDE PARIS. NINETY YEARS LATER, VALEO IS A PARTNER TO MAJOR AUTOMAKERS AND OPERATES IN 29 COUNTRIES, MAKING IT ONE OF THE WORLD’S LEADING AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIERS.
In 1953, the company celebrated its 30th anniversary. Clutches, with their constantly evolving technologies, became its main business activity.

Asta e de pe pagina Valeo, acum poate fi o buna reclama ce zic ei acolo....dar au inceput activitatea prin a produce linii de frana si discuri de ambreiaj.
Acum nu am cautat despre cei de la Sachs


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post 15 Feb 2015, 19:31
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adaug eu despre Sachs:

Ambreiajele si amortizoarele SACHS sunt produse de marca pe piata internationala a pieselor de schimb.

Sachs reprezinta alegerea perfecta pentru cei care au nevoie de amortizoare si sisteme de ambreiaj de calitate superioara. Sachs este partenerul mai multor constructori de masini de top. Participa la competitiile sportive de mai bine de 90 de ani. Competitiile castigate succesiv de echipele sponsorizate de Sachs dovedesc calitatea superioara a pieselor furnizate. De exemplu masina pilotului finlandez Ari Vatanen, castigator de patru ori a concursului Paris-Dakar, un VW Touareg, a fost echipat in 2007 cu ambreiaj hidraulic produs de Sachs.

Ambreiajul cu carbon de inalta performanta utilizat in competitiile sportive este o inovatie a companiei Sachs. In Formula 1 Sachs este partenerul echipei BMW Sauber, furnizor de amortizoare pentru Ferrari si furnizor de ambreiaje pentru Honda Racing.


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post 15 Feb 2015, 20:33
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nu te supara dar sachs = sucks!

am luat eu si bat de la 1500 km... am mai dat si 255 lei /bucata pe spate!


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Faza aia cu formula 1 e trecuta demult, Bmw nu mai este in f1 de peste 6 ani, Honda nici atat, abia acum s-au intors, cat despre amortizoarele catre Ferrari, mai bine nu mentionam ca numai probleme au avut cu ele. Insa, este o firma cu renume si as avea mai mare increde in Sachs.


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post 15 Feb 2015, 21:45
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Am vazut kit Sachs care avea componente de Valeo, mai exact discul de ambreiaj. Luk este suta la suta Luk, la fel si Valeo.


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