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Talisman 1.6 dCi 130 BVM6 , drive test, experiente

mihai2005
post 25 Oct 2016, 08:18
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Intre timp vad ca apar la sh la 25k euro cu 15-30k km, in echipare Intense, unele si cu 4Control.
Devin interesante. Probabil ca in intervalul 20-25k euro n-as ezita sa-mi cumpar una daca am nevoie de masina. De la un dealer Renault bineinteles.


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post 25 Oct 2016, 19:35
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Tu ai Seria 4 si te mai uiti la un Talisman amarat?


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post 25 Oct 2016, 21:55
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Aceste cuvinte ne doare biggrin.gif


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post 25 Oct 2016, 22:28
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QUOTE(mars @ 25 Oct 2016, 19:35)
Tu ai Seria 4 si te mai uiti la un Talisman amarat?
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M-am plictisit de seria 4 in aproape 2 ani. In special datorita interiorului inodor/incolor/insipid.
Deca vand Bmw am nevoie de alta masina. Pt pretul corect imi surade un Talisman sh. Asa n-am pretentii prea mari. Mai ales ca-i o masina eleganta.

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post 25 Oct 2016, 22:39
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Oi fi io fan Reno, dar asta e un pas inapoi wink.gif.


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post 26 Oct 2016, 04:56
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QUOTE(mars @ 25 Oct 2016, 22:39)
Oi fi io fan Reno, dar asta e un pas inapoi wink.gif.
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Depinde din ce perspectiva. Ca tinuta de drum, feedback/precizie directie seria 4 imi place mai mult. Chiar si pozitia de condus f joasa e pe placul meu, m-am obisnuit cu ea. Daca vreau ceva sport mi-as lua Civic Type R modelul actual. Am facut un drive test si de atunci privesc mult mai critic seria 4 smile.gif. Daca vreau o masina comfortabila n-am motive sa refuz un Talisman cu 4Control folosit pentru pretul corect(pe la 20k).




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post 26 Oct 2016, 06:48
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De ce nu Seria 5, daca vrei confort? Cu Active Driving, desigur. Si aia a ta ce are? De ce nu e confortabila?

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QUOTE(mars @ 26 Oct 2016, 06:48)
De ce nu Seria 5, daca vrei confort? Cu Active Driving, desigur. Si aia a ta ce are? De ce nu e confortabila?
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Si uite asa apare aici un === BMW seria 4 VERSUS Renault Talisman == .
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post 26 Oct 2016, 12:15
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A dat cineva de curand vreo comanda de Talisman 1.6 tce EDC? Sau Megane 4 GT? Ca am auzit zvonuri ca s-a incetat productia pentru niste modificari mai de amploare in cadrul modelelor.

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cutia?


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Mie ieri mi-au estimat cele 3 luni standard pt un talisman.


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Pai ai dat comanda concret si ai primit VIN sau doar ti-au zis asa ca in mare asta e?


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Neah, just browsing.


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Ce te asteptai sa spun vanzatorul? Avem probleme de fiabilitate cu masina si am intrerupt productia? Sa fim seriosi biggrin.gif


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😈


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post 26 Oct 2016, 21:28
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QUOTE(mars @ 26 Oct 2016, 06:48)
De ce nu Seria 5, daca vrei confort? Cu Active Driving, desigur. Si aia a ta ce are? De ce nu e confortabila?
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Seria 5 e comfortabila dar nu suficient de sportiva pt gustul meu(precum seriile inferioare) in varianta de baza. Ar fi nevoie macar:
- pentru o tinuta mai ferma de suspensia M fixa + jenti 19 cel putin
- ca sa nu mai arate babacios ar fi nevoie de pachetul M
- macar 525d ca sa compenseze extra greutatea fata de 420,320
- plus comfort/business pack
Asa sare mult peste 50k. Mai mult decat imi propun sa dau pe o masina.
Plus ca dupa parerea mea Bmw se departeaza (mai ales la modelele mari) de ce i-a consacrat: masini sportive si relativ compacte. Cu fiecare generatie modelele se ingrasa, devin cat mai polivalente, tb sa aiba de toate - o tona de electronice/piei/lemn... Deja imi lasa impresia ca sportivitatea exista doar in marketing. In practica mai greu sa faci o masina de 1.5-2 tone sa se comporte sportiv fara motoare mari/echipamente speciale.

Seia 4 are ca mi s-a luat de ea. Ambianta interioara e anosta si cum petrec mai mult timp acolo incepe sa conteze. Plus mici pb de ergonomie, greu sa operezi climatizarea fara sa-ti iei ochii de la drum. In rest e buna, ofera cel mai bun compromis vazut de mine la masinile conduse intre comfort/sportivitate/practicalitate.

QUOTE(stefandinescu70 @ 26 Oct 2016, 07:55)
Si uite asa apare aici un === BMW seria 4  VERSUS  Renault Talisman == .
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In primul post am comparat diferite calitati ale Talisman vs alte masini conduse Mazda 6, seria 4

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[quote=mihai2005,26 Oct 2016, 21:28]
Seria 5 e comfortabila dar nu suficient de sportiva pt gustul meu




Tu vrei sportivitate pe TALISMAN ?? Talisman este creat pentru comfort si sa se miste bine , la un pret vandabil comparativ cu concurenta

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Vreis sportivitate te duci catre RS ... vrei confort ai de unde alege ..


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post 27 Oct 2016, 08:21
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[quote=stefandinescu70,27 Oct 2016, 07:43]
[quote=mihai2005,26 Oct 2016, 21:28]
Seria 5 e comfortabila dar nu suficient de sportiva pt gustul meu
Tu vrei sportivitate pe TALISMAN ?? Talisman este creat pentru comfort si sa se miste bine , la un pret vandabil comparativ cu concurenta
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Sa nu fie cu suparare, dar observ frecvent datul la intors de dragul discutiilor. E p-aci un coleg care sufera grav de discutii interminabile. Cred ca unii urmaresc doar sporirea numarului de postari. Sincer n-am prea mult timp si nu urmaresc asta. Daca la fiecare postare tb sa fac rezumat/sa reformulez ce-am scris mai inainte(in cond in care sunt suficient de explicit) imi pare rau.

Daca citeai cu atentie am scris mai sus ca Talisman e pentru mine o alegere interesanta(chiar la sh) pentru pretul corect. 4 control, Intense 130dci, 50-60k km, pe le 20k euro, inca in garantie e deja interesant. Suficient de eleganta, tinuta buna cu 4control, ok la banii astia.

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[quote=cj98czh,27 Oct 2016, 07:48]Vreis sportivitate te duci catre RS ... vrei confort ai de unde alege ..
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Prefer Civic Type R. Ambianta interioara, design exterior. Pt mine are mai mult appeal. Ca si calitati dinamice nu-i chiar ultima din coada.

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post 27 Oct 2016, 08:28
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Vad ca altcineva umple posturile de la TALISMAN cu comparatii cu BMW si alte Type R sau ce ii place lui sa aiba si nu are ( INCA )

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QUOTE(stefandinescu70 @ 27 Oct 2016, 08:28)
Vad ca altcineva umple posturile de la TALISMAN cu comparatii cu BMW si alte TYPE R sau ce ii pLlace lui sa aiba si nu are ( INCA )
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Deja o dam in bataie de joc. Cine a deschis subiectul de comparatie seria 4-Talisman, ia vezi putin mai sus. Tu citesti ce se posteaza sau te bagi sa-i injectezi pe altii?
Postul meu a fost la obiect: Talisman sh. Punct

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aiurea, pana acum comandai 10 talismane, asa decat te bagi in seama.


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Am dat eu nume ?? sau am zis de cineva anume ?? Numai ca se ajunge la comentarii despre BMW pe aici cam mult . Nu se numeste asta offtopic ??

Iar eu ca sa fiu mai direct , nu am vazut pe nimeni sa treaca de la BMW , HAUDI/VW , sau Mert sa treaca la Renault , decat doar in mici cazuri de EXTREMA urgenta . Imaginea conteaza la romani .

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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 27 Oct 2016, 08:32)
aiurea, pana acum comandai 10 talismane, asa decat te bagi in seama.
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1. Ca se postezi pe forum tb sa-ti comanzi Renault?
2. Sunt interesat de Talisman. Muncesc pentru bani si nu sunt nerabdator sa-i cheltui oricum. Prefer sa ma informez, schimb opinii pt asta aici.
3. Mi-am ars din timpul propriu sa postez impresii de la drive test. M-am gandit ca sunt si altii care n-au acces inca la masina. Cand fac drive test la Alpine ar tb sa-mi mai irosesc timpul sau nu cu anumiti care o dau in diverse/1000 interpretari? Doar de dragul gargarei

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Am dat eu nume ?? sau am zis de cineva anume ?? Numai ca se ajunge la comentarii despre BMW pe aici cam mult . Nu se numeste asta offtopic ??

  Iar eu ca sa fiu mai direct , nu am vazut pe nimeni sa treaca de la BMW , HAUDI/VW , sau Mert sa treaca la Renault , decat doar in mici cazuri de EXTREMA urgenta . Imaginea conteaza la romani .
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Nu ma interesaza ce fac "romani" si mentalitatea asta "primitiva" mercedes>bmw>reno>xyz...
Eu am dat putin mai mult pe la scoala si prefer sa imi fac o parere proprie cautand/schimband info.

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Haidi bre, b76bgaarh decat glumea smile.gif
Cand faci drive test cu jucarele noi sacrifica-ti cateva minute sa bagi si pe aici impresii


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Deci tu ai Seria 4, dar vrei Talisman. Vrei ceva sportiv, gen TypeR, dar tu tot la Talisman visezi, ba chiar la un jalnic dCi 130. Tu chiar ne crezi prosti?! Sau doar trollezi de zor? Caz in care e OK wink.gif.


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QUOTE(ssilviu @ 26 Oct 2016, 14:49)
Ce te asteptai sa spun vanzatorul? Avem probleme de fiabilitate cu masina si am intrerupt productia? Sa fim seriosi biggrin.gif
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Se pare ca da ..

http://0-100.hotnews.ro/2016/10/27/renault...or-si-banchetei



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asta merje la rechemari, sa vedem ce scuza le gaseste aphophis.


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QUOTE(mihai2005 @ 26 Oct 2016, 21:28)
Seia 4 are ca mi s-a luat de ea. Ambianta interioara e anosta si cum petrec mai mult timp acolo incepe sa conteze.
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Ei in locul tau mi-as lua un 320i bine configurat, care nu mai este deloc anost si pastreaza toate avantajele seriei 4, la un pret mai mic...
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Ma mir ca nu spune nimeni nimic de combinatia letala cutie automata cu manerul ala de actionare futurist de la bmw si frana de mana clasica cu maner "putica" de e mai mare rasul. Mai vezi asemenea tiganii doar pe clasa mica...


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