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cutie viteze jb3... rulmenti, schimbare rulmenti cv 1.5dci 65cp

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bleano1
post 20 Mar 2015, 16:57
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Cine imi poate spune cum se ajunge la rulmentul de sub acel disc dintat mare.Am ajuns pana acolo si m-am blocat,nu stiu cum se da jos acea roata dintata.DSC01894.JPG ( Size: 164.02k ) Number of downloads: 466
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Asa arata interiorul unai cutii de viteze
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post 20 Mar 2015, 17:08
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Diferentialul (roata aia mare) iese de pe rulment dupa ce scoti sigurata si axul planetar din interiorul ei.


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post 20 Mar 2015, 18:05
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QUOTE(espacern @ 20 Mar 2015, 17:08)
Diferentialul (roata aia mare) iese de pe rulment dupa ce scoti sigurata si axul planetar din interiorul ei.
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Daca te referi la astea le-am scos deja DSC01899.JPG ( Size: 143.79k ) Number of downloads: 473

Si ar trebui sa iasa pur si simplu in sus daca trag de roata?
Am incercat si nu iese.


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post 20 Mar 2015, 18:18
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sper ca ai deja manualul de reparatii si ai sdv-urile necesare ptr scos si bagat rulmenti
Ai incercat sa ciocanesti dinspre planetara oleaca sa vezi daca iese?


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post 20 Mar 2015, 18:45
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Am batut,nu iese.
Eu cred ca trebuie scos simeringul dinspre planetara si dupa aia cred ca are o siguranta acolo.Totusi nu vreau sa stric acel simering pt. ca este bun.
Am analizat mai bine poza lui @espacern si asa e,se scoate simeringul,siguranta si dupa aia iese.

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post 20 Mar 2015, 20:52
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@bleano: Ce simptom prezenta cutia incat te-a determinat s-o desfaci?


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post 21 Mar 2015, 13:25
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Se auzea un huruit cand era in orice treapta si se auzea din zona grupului.Eu zic ca e din rulmenti,nu am gasit nimic spart pana acum in ea,dar mai caut.Am gasit in schimb foarte multa pilitura adunata pe magnet(in cutie este un magnet).


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post 21 Mar 2015, 16:38
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Pilitura este normala, acel magnet se afla pe buson la alte cutii.
Ai gasit vre-o garnitura pe marginea cutiei? La mine scapa putin ulei si as vrea sa stiu daca este garnitura acolo sau ar trebui stranse mai tare suruburile de prindere.

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post 21 Mar 2015, 17:17
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Nu e garnitura acolo, etansarea se realizeaza cu ajutorul unui silicon, la tine trebuie refacuta. Intr-o perioada multe symboluri prezentau pierderi de ulei la imbinare, chiar de la inceput, se refacea etansarea pe garantie.

@bleano: Da, rulmentul diferentialului devine zgomotos dupa un anumit numar de km.

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post 23 Mar 2015, 11:26
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Rulmentul diferentialului pare in regula,celalalt rulment de pe acel ax e si el ok,in schimb un joc mare era la rulmentul de pe axul principal cu toate pinioanele.
@Razvanf,nu avea garnitura cutia,nici silicon si nu cred ca mai merg stranse suruburile,la mine erau foarte stranse si tot aveam urme de ulei.
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sub acest pinion am rulmentul cu joc mare
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post 23 Mar 2015, 21:13
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Pentru schimb rulmentul de la a-5-a trebuia desfacuta cutia? huh.gif


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post 23 Mar 2015, 22:05
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si dupa schimbarea rulmentului cutia va fi mai zgomotoasa decat inainte , garantat , pinioanele nefiind montate in pozitia in care au lucrat initial va duce la zgomote multiple


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post 24 Mar 2015, 01:43
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@dezmembrari_Megane explica cum va fi mai zgomotoasa ca inainte ? ai reusit tu sa remontezi o cutie cu pinioanele puse invers sau in alta pozitie? ca nu inteleg ai zis cea mai mare tampenie EVER ! sau e un fel de reclama sa nu isi desfaca nimeni cutiile si in schimb sa cumpere de la tine ?


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post 24 Mar 2015, 09:23
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Sper sa te ajute desi pozele sunt cam nasoale.

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post 24 Mar 2015, 10:08
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daca are nevoie de manual il ofer si eu pe asta pare ok la imagini .... si arata cutia desfacuta cu toate pinioanele si cum se monteaza ....

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post 25 Mar 2015, 13:42
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QUOTE(espacern @ 23 Mar 2015, 21:13)
Pentru schimb rulmentul de la a-5-a trebuia desfacuta cutia? huh.gif
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Pai rulmentul se afla sub pinion nu pe el,si daca nu scoti axul nu vad cum ai putea scoate acel rulment.Si inca ceva,pana nu desfaci cutia in doua nu vezi ca acel rulment are joc.
Eu am mai zis,banuiam rulmentul din diferential de aceea am desfacut-o,si asa mi-au zis si mecanicii dar acel rulment nu are pic de joc si nici urme de zgaraieturi ceva.
@Dezmembrari_Megane esti un pic carcotas,eu incerc sa impartasesc si altora ce se afla printr-o cutie pt. ca am cautat mult si nu am gasit nici macar o poza cu interiorul acestei cutii.Manualele de reparatii iti spun in general ce sa faci,dar cand te apuci de desfacut e cu totul altceva.Desfacerea cutiei nu ma costa nimic pt.ca o fac eu,pe masina am o cutie buna acum,asa ca daca o repar sau nu,macar raman cu o impresie despre interiorul ei.


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post 25 Mar 2015, 17:57
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Ahaaa...deci nu stai cu masina pe tusa ! Bun asa !


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post 25 Mar 2015, 18:49
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QUOTE(bleano1 @ 25 Mar 2015, 13:42)
pana nu desfaci cutia in doua nu vezi ca acel rulment are joc.

Corect....am crezut ca era deja exact constatat rulmentul defect.
Am desfacut si reparat cateva cutii de acest gen dar tot timpul am schimbat un numar maxim de rulmenti pentru ca este operatiune dificila.......si sa nu mai refac in caz de greseala de diagnosticare corecta.
Ca un sfat trebuia schimbat/montat totul cat mai repede pentru ca dupa cateva zile nu mai stii exact unde se monteza toate bilutele/tablitele/etc......chiar si cu planul detaliat in fata.
Remontatul este cea mai delicata operatie si acolo experienta si mana agila......face diferenta!


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Am remontat-o deja si nu a fost deloc usor,nu sunt chiar multe bilute,doar cateva mi-au dat batai de cap ca nu vroiau sa intre la loc,dar cu perseverenta am reusit.
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pana la urma ce rulmenti ai avut uzati?


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post 26 Mar 2015, 21:25
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Cum spunea @espacern,trebuie schimbati un numar mai mare de rulmenti nu doar unul,asa ca am renuntat din lipsa banilor.
Eu am gasit joc mare la rulmentul de pe axul principal,am mai zis mai sus in post intr-o poza. DSC02892.jpg ( Size: 155.39k ) Number of downloads: 92


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Cand ai bani, sa schimbi toti rulmentii si sa o repari. Sa o tii de rezerva.


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