Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Genevieve-Dacia 1300 '78, Reconditionare

Eu am pus inima neagra, nu am gasit nichelata. (parbriz+luneta) Tu ai avut sau ai achizitionat? (de unde?) Arata bine jantele, dar nu vad cum prinzi capacele. (cat ai platit in total pentru jante? eu am platit 750 lei / set) This post has been edited by julienb: 4 Jun 2018, 14:10

Eu am pus inima neagra, nu am gasit nichelata. (parbriz+luneta)
Tu ai avut sau ai achizitionat? (de unde?)

Arata bine jantele, dar nu vad cum prinzi capacele. (cat ai platit in total pentru jante? eu am platit 750 lei / set)

This post has been edited by julienb: 4 Jun 2018, 14:10

Inima am achizitionat-o de la Catalin Pascu (cata50) acum cateva luni.
A avut si aici la sectiunea bursa un anunt de vanzare, il poti intreba daca mai are:
https://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopi...hl=inima+cheder

Mai poti incerca la Sorin, din ce am inteles ar mai avea 2 seturi de vanzare:
https://www.daciaclub.ro/-VAND-Inima-cheder...ua-t315848.html

In legatura cu jantele, inainte de a le duce la sablat si vopsit, am dat jos piulitele cu cochilie din centrul lor pentru a nu le deteriora in timpul prelucrarilor sau incarca filetul cu vopsea. Aceste piulite le voi pune la loc in momentul in care ajung sa montez rotile. Costul final pentru: roluit+sablat+vopsit+montat+echilibrat+anvelope noi a fost undeva la 1600lei.

Am reusit sa mai lucrez putin la masina. Am inlocuit fata de usa stanga fata, era rupta in partea superioara si dupa mult timp in care am cautat alta in stare mai buna, am reusit sa gasesc un set ( asa cum reiese din pozele de mai sus), am montat grila de ventilatie de la parbriz si am lustruit si refacut stergatoarele masinii.
Ah si sa nu uit de achizitii: un al treilea solex, buson rezervor, amortizor, becuri etc...




This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 9 Jun 2018, 22:16

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Credeam ca anul acesta vi cu Dacia la Intalnirea Internationala Dacia clasic!!!!

Asa am crezut si eu, dar mi-au ramas destule de facut si programul nu mi-a permis sa o termin in timp util. O sa trag tare sa o termin undeva pe la sfarsitul lunii iulie si sa o pregatesc de inscriere pentru a participa macar la Retro parada toamnei.

Asa cum am spus mai sus, programul nu mi-a permis sa mai lucrez ceva la masina, dar am mai facut unele achizitii.

Toate piesele din poze ( cu exceptia parasolarelor, blocul de lumini, rulmentii si elicea metalica) au fost luate din remat de pe o masina cu seria 6708.



This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 24 Jun 2018, 20:49

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De la ultima postare am reusit sa acord timp si babetei. Masina am terminat-o (zic eu) in proportie de 95%, as mai avea de pus capota spate, ornamentele de prag si de la portbagaj si alte cateva maruntisuri, toate astea consider ca le termin in 2-3 zile imediat dupa venirea din concediu.

Pe langa multe alte achizitii am efectuat:
-schimbarea repartitorului, cel de comefin (nou) a inceput sa curga dupa un an de la montare, timp in care masina nu a vazut 3 frane. Incepuse sa rugineasca si in plus acel mic pistonas avea multe zgarieturi din fabricatie.
-aerisire frane.
-demontarea traseului de evacuare si montarea lui cu silicon de esapament, la fiecare imbinare; printre saxofon si intermediara tot scapa gaze si am decis sa pun la fiecare imbinare pentru a ma asigura ca nu voi mai desface curand tobele.
-montat finala impreuna cu suportii, arcurile si inelele de cauciuc aferente.
-montat scutul de la rezervor.
-montat suportii de bara spate.
-montat rotile reconditionate acum 2 luni.
-desfacut grila de aer de la bord si remontata impreuna cu chederul aferent (uitasem de acel mic cheder acum ceva timp).
-desfacut scaunul de la sofer si schimbat sezutul ( chiar daca l-am cusut incepuse sa se rupa atele si materialul sa crape pe lateral)
-curatat, lustruit si montat urmatoarele elemente: capace roti, oglinda laterala, ornamentele de streasina, ornamentele de prag, ornamentele de portbagaj, bara fata, bara spate.
-demontat si montat corect cotiera spate (am montat-o cu spatele).
-curatate si puse presurile la interior.
-curatate si vopsite: cheia de roti, pompa de aer si cricul.
-montate arcurile de la maneta de viteze si de la cablul de frana.
- am refacut si scrisul "alb 40" din portbagaj si din cauza neatentiei mi-ai iesit la fel de prost ca din fabrica.


This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 29 Jul 2018, 11:15

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Bravo! Chiar eram curios in ce stadiu mai esti cu vechea masina noua.

"am refacut si scrisul "alb 40" din portbagaj si din cauza neatentiei mi-ai iesit la fel de prost ca din fabrica." )))))))

Multumesc! Dar nu ii mai aduce complimente ca isi scoate iar fitele la vedere si imi da de lucru.
Las-o asa...inca nu e "noua", mai are defecte care se vor remedia pe viitor. Nu de alta dar vreau sa ma dau cu ea in septembrie si sa ajung la retroparada. De cate ori am zis ca am terminat un lucru si ca e frumos, de fiecare data mi-a aratat ea mie si m-a pus sa-l refac.

Colegu, vezi că ai montat invers mânerele în interior deasupra ușii!

Multumesc de avertizare! Cum am vazut mesajul tau am mers in garaj si am reparat greseala.

Aceeasi treaba si cu presurile din spate...

uite cu asta nici nu mi-am batut capul. Multumesc de informatie, am sa le modific cand ajung la garaj.

Pe langa micile corectii ( multumesc inca o data celor doi colegi pentru atentionari) de la ultima postare s-au intamplat urmatoarele:

- datorita informatiilor oferite de Ionut pe un forum echivalent, am reusit sa fac un suport de numar fata (dimensiunile si toate celelalte aspecte le-am aproximat dintr-o poza postata de el).
- am montat ornamentul de la portbagaj si ornamentele de prag.
- am improvizat o chinga pentru roata de rezerva.
- am pus cele doua stickere din compartimentul motor.
- am indreptat prinderea pentru cablul de acceleratie.
- am reglat motorul si in tot acest timp electromotorul mi-a facut o surpriza, fapt ce a dus la demontarea, refacerea si montarea lui.
- Nenea Lazea (aka harby) a dorit si el un suport asa ca am trecut la ciocanit
- am montat un buson de rezervor mai potrivit, fata de cel de aro



This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 13 Aug 2018, 20:57

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Se gasesc noi!

http://aircooledparts.ro/detalii/12467-Lic...plate-aluminium

Un link la indemana.

Nu contest acest lucru, ca nu se gasesc si noi. Insa ceea ce mi-ai aratat tu nu este la fel cu ceea ce am incercat eu sa reproduc!
Repet inca o data, eu am preluat informatiile oferite de Ionut pe forum si pe alocuri am adaptat din mers astfel incat sa iasa ceva placut.

Felicitari pt. munca, a iesit misto! Si suportul de numar imi place, dar cred ca la suportii lui te-ai complicat mult, puteai sa-i faci usor si rapid din doua bucati de platbanda. Da' se pare ca-ti place tinichigeria.

Se gasesc noi!

http://aircooledparts.ro/detalii/12467-Lic...plate-aluminium

Un link la indemana.

Realizezi ca e diferit, nu?
Ok, poate pe spate merge, dar cum prinzi suportii pentru bara fata? Cu sudura sau suruburi si ce-am facut?

Daca stii sau daca tii minte, r12 a avut de tabla, aproape ca asta.

Parca am avut, doar in brosura aia din '69, nu stiu exact pana-n ce an au fost montate suporturile fata de numere.

Oricum suportul de numar fata l-am vazut "live", la ionut_doc, cum e facut.

Am luat o mica pauza de la "dacia 1300" si am trecut la ceva mai vechi, cu aproximativ 20 de ani mai vechi


https://youtu.be/gHLZlvVX2lc

This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 22 Aug 2018, 21:13

Am luat o mica pauza de la "dacia 1300" si am trecut la ceva mai vechi, cu aproximativ 20 de ani mai vechi 
https://youtu.be/gHLZlvVX2lc

Mozvici ?

Nu, motorul este de M59

sper ca va ajunge pe o masina

A ajuns deja!

@maho: multumesc pentru aprecieri. Nu pot spune ca-mi place, momentan am doar ambitie dar sigur voi descoperi adevarul la urmatorul proiect.


De la ultima postare legata de babuta mea am mai achizitionat destul de multe piese, am terminat masina si am inceput demersul pentru a finaliza actele si a o inscrie. Astfel reprezentatul RCR a venit si a verificat masina, am primit ok`ul din partea lui si acum astept raspunsul final.

La masina as mai avea de bibilit una alta, de lipit un sticker, de reglat cate ceva dar toate astea sunt lucruri pe care le voi face pe parcurs sau la iarna-primavara. Momentan vreau sa termin partea birocratica si sa o scot putin la drum. Dupa vom vedea ce ne rezerva viitorul.

P.s: ca sa realizez atat eu, cat si cei care urmaresc, amploarea muncii in cei 4 ani si ceva, am pus poze din ziua achizitiei. ( iunie 2014).

This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 20 Sep 2018, 21:33

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Pozele cu ea curata la poarta zici ca-s puse de Marius cand o pregateste sa o scoata pe piata... Te-ai molipsit si tu de frantuzisme mai rau ca Lazea...

Hehe....stiu ca seamana putin dar alt spatiu pentru a face pozele nu am avut. In plus in pozele de la poarta masina nu este curatata, in acele poze masina este nespalata de aproape un an de cand am vopsit-o.
Masina am terminat-o vineri 15 septembrie la ora 01:30 noaptea, iar pozele sunt facute tot vineri dar de dimineata la ora 06:30. M-am grabit foarte tare pentru a putea prinde comisia de atestari pe luna septembrie astfel incat sa-i pot face RAR-ul si inscrierea pana la data de 20 octombrie pentru a ajunge la retroparada.
Momentan sunt in grafic.

P.s: pozele cu masina spalata si curatata sunt cele din curte din postarea precedenta facute cu o zi inainte de verificarea reprezentantului RCR.

2 Oct 2018, 09:59:
P.s2: in legatura cu frantuzismele, eu am tot spus ca va urma si un al doilea proiect, dar se pare ca nimeni nu m-a crezut. Va ramane de vazut din primavara!

This post has been edited by Stefan.alex78: 2 Oct 2018, 08:59

capota motor e cam ridicata in partea sofer. In rest, e superba,

Multumesc! Capota motor e ridicata in ambele parti, nu mult dar este.
Unul dintre motive poate fi chederul nou de la grila parbriz, care nu-i permite capotei sa se lase mai mult.
Al doilea motiv poate fi formele aripilor. Capota cu grila de la parbriz vine aproape la nivel pe cand cu aripile nu.
Dar e unul dintre lucrurile pe care le voi rezolva pe timp de iarna. Momentan vreau actele si sa ies cu ea pe strada sa o pot testa si sa vad exact ce mai trebuie sa bibilesc .

De la ultima postare povestea a decurs in felul urmator:

1) Masina a fost verificata de Domnul Mihalcea (reprezentant RCR din comisia de atestare), dumnealui nu a avut nimic de reprosat asupra masini, doar cateva glume datorate modului in care tineam masina in garaj ( "acoperita cu paturi sa nu raceasca"). Astfel masina a primit atestatul, iar pe data de 05.10.2018 masina a ajuns la RAR pentru ITP si mentiunea de vehicul istoric in carte.

2) In noaptea de dinaintea programari la RAR am reglat sistemul de iluminare si am verificat toata masina (de la frane pana la pornirea la cald) pentru a nu avea surprize a doua zi. In noaptea respectiva masina pornea la sfert in orice situatie si fara nici cel mai mic efort. A doua zi de dimineata am incalzit motorul, am urcat-o pe platforma si am mers la RAR. Ajuns in curtea RAR-ului masina a pornit un pic mai greu, dar a pornit ( am pus totul pe seama "emotiilor" pe care le avea batrana dacie), m-am pus in coada si asteptam frumos randul la verificare.
De aici lucrurile au devenit putin mai agitate si babuta mea mi-a pus inca o data la incercare cunostiile cu privire la "toanele" pe care le poate avea dacia (inca de la inceput mentionez ca toate cele intamplate sunt din vina mea si a increderi acordate pieselor romanesti "noi").
Revenind, in fata mea era Domnul Ozon cu o frumoasa Lada ce o pregatea pentru Raidul Transfagarasanului, dumnealui a oprit masina pentru ca nu se mai inainta si am zis sa fac si eu acelasi lucru. Am oprit motorul si din acel moment masina nu a vrut sa mai porneasca. Am impins-o pana in pragul intrari in RAR, punand totul pe seama inecarii motorului, dupa multiplele incercari de a-l porni. Vazand ca masina refuza sa coopereze am impins-o in parcare, am scos lada cu scule si cu piesele din dotare (parca anticipasem acest moment si inainte de a pleca de acasa mi-am luat toate cele necesare astfel incat sa pot face o reparatie capitala pe marginea drumului, chiar glumeam pe drum ca in 2-3 ore o desfac bucata cu bucata si o refac la loc) si am inceput sa o iau prin omitere si incercari succesive de a porni.
Verificat bujiile, moment in care am rupt o fisa, bujiile afumate (am zis ca e normal la cat de mult am dat la automat), le-am curatat si sus cu ele pe motor, pus fisa noua din cutia cu maimute, incercata pornirea, nimic, deja bateria incepuse sa de-a semne de oboseala.
Inlocuit bobina cu una noua, tot din cutia cu maimute avuta in dotare, nimic, singurul rezultat bateria moarta.
Am scos cablurile de curent (pe care le luasem preventiv) si am inceput sa caut persoane doritoare de a ajuta. Timp de 30 minute nu am auzit decat glume proaste ("a cazut jiclorul in baie", "dai foc ca porneste", in fine vorbe spuse de colorati cu boltar pe post de ceafa si cu BMW care a trebuit sa faca testul de frane de 2-3 ori, dar asta detaliez putin mai tarziu) si o doamna care era foarte nervoasa ca am ocupat 2 locuri de parcare cu masina mea.
In cele din urma au tot venit persoane care incercau sa ma calmeze si sa imi de-a sfaturi, dar si un domn cu o platforma care mi-a dat curent si a stat langa mine pana am pornit masina, dar m-a ajutat cu mentiunea ca " masina e foarte frumoasa, parca e scoasa din sifonier si daca era altul cu un BMW il lasa sa se chinuie".
Masina tot nu pornea, am umblat la aprindere, la benzina, la carburator, nimic. Am scos iar bujiile si le-am verificat si am observat ca una dadea scanteia slaba, asa ca le-am inlocuit pe toate cu sinterom noi ( tot sinterom am avut si inainte). Din acest moment masina avea semne de viata dar electromotorul nu avea puterea necesara sa-l invarta.
Intre timp Domnul Ozon a terminat verificarea la masina si a venit in ajutor, a incercat sa porneasca masina si am cazut toti de comun acord ca masina va porni impinsa. Dumnealui s-a urcat la volan, iar eu cu tatal meu am inceput sa impingem, nu am facut 2m cu ea ca deja s-au strans 7 persoane in ajutor, parca impingeam un TIR (eu deja eram mut de uimire cum s-au strans atatea persoane pentru o dacie a unui strain).
In cele din urma masina a pornit, mici reglaje, eu am vorbit cu domnii de la RAR pentru ca am pierdut progamarea, Domnul Ozon a vorbit cu cei ce asteptau sa intre pentru a ma lasa sa ma bag in fata, punem masina la intrare se opreste iar. O impingem, porneste si intram in cele din urma.
Initial vorbisem cu inginerii sa ma lase sa o tin pornita ca nu am baterie, dar dupa efectuarea testului de noxe (care l-a trecut cu brio) m-au pus sa o opresc.
Un tanar inginer de acolo, a fost de acord sa imping masina pe rampa, pana cand ajung la frane si sa o pornesc atunci, totul in speranta de a nu consuma bateria si mai mult.
S-au facut poze, s-au consultat actele, totul ok. Ajung la frane, inginerul se uita ciudat la masina pentru ca nu stia cum sa deschida capota, il ajut eu si apoi a dorit sa o porneasca, i-am sugerat sa ma lase pe mine ca ii stiu fitele, dar masina a pornit la sfert. TOTI cei din sala au inceput sa rada spunand ca "a pornit HIBRIDA". A efectuat testul de frane pe care l-a trecut cu brio fara nici cel mai mic dezechilibru, moment in care toti aia cu boltar pe post de ceafa au mutit pentru ca BMW-urile lor inca erau pe rampa la a-3a incercare de a trece testul.
Eh, ca sa inchei capitolul RAR, masina a trecut cu peripetii, a fost aplaudata la iesire si a ajuns acasa, unde am luat totul de la capat, am masurat, inlocuit, schimbat, frecat, gadilat etc....masina pornea dar mergea ba in 2 ba in 3 ba in 4 pistoane. Am verificat bujiile sinterom noi si din 4, 2 erau ok 2 nu. Asa ca am cumparat unele denso si unele brisk, montat cele denso si masina torcea ca o pisicuta.
Se vede si in pozele puse cum arata bujiile denso, atat in comparatie cu cele sinterom dupa 2 ore de mers, cat si dupa 75 km efectuati cu masina.

3) Masina a fost inscrisa, i-am montat numerele si am tot achizitionat una alta pentru ea sau pentru stocul de piese.

4) Am pregatit-o pentru Retro Parada, am mers cu ea pentru a o testa, toate bune si frumoase.

5) In cele din urma am ajuns la parada, am mers cu ea 75 km fara probleme si atat ea, cat si IMS-ul M59A la care am lucrat s-au prezentat remarcabil la primul lor eveniment, unde dupa parerea mea, au atras suficient de multa atentie pentru cei prezenti.

In concluzie, masina este gata, mai are nevoie de putina atentie in perioada urmatoare, dar consider ca ma pot bucura de ea in orice moment. De altfel doresc sa le multumesc si aici celor care la nevoie au ajutat atat cu sfaturi, cat si cu fapte in cei 4.5 ani sau in acele ore petrecute in curtea RAR-ului.
Vorba Domnului Ozon imi va ramane intiparita in minte: "Daciile trebuie sa le iubesti pentru a le putea detine!".

P.s: cu poze revin in cel mai scurt timp posibil.