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post 9 Aug 2016, 13:05
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Achizitii, surprize cu bascula spate si elementele de mecanica curatate de pamant urmeaza curatarea de rugina si vopsirea:)



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post 9 Aug 2016, 17:12
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bascula spate crapa frecvent in locul ala....se poate suda autogen/mig acolo si mai tine inca 30 de ani......


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post 9 Aug 2016, 18:19
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@sobolan: Stiu ca se putea suda, dar am impresia ca a mai fost sudata o data. In plus nu ma risc... crapatura se afla la sub 1mm de gaura de prindere... nu fac asta. Bascula e deja in maldarul de fier vechi.

Culoarea masinii (in viitorul apropiat)! Culoarea a fost obtinuta dupa o reteta data de aparatul de cititi.



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post 9 Aug 2016, 20:23
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merge si tine sudat daca e sudat bine...gandeste-te ca puntea nu sta numai in bratul ala,sta si in tendoanele laterale....stiu caz in care s-a mers mult fara acel brat.....deci fara si n-a fugit nicaieri puntea.....ala se fisureaza din cauza torsiunii,de exemplu cand pui masina cu o roata din spate pe bordura si una pe asfalt si fata is ambele pe asfalt si daca ai fusul ala de cauciuc facut dintr-un cauciuc tare ca cimentul biggrin.gif sau daca mergi mult offroad cu ea.....am si eu unul la fel fisurat,l-am sudat si acum e pe jos,piesa de schimb,nu-l arunc,decat unul de connex facut din tabla moarta mai bun ala sudat.....eu l-am sudat la autogen....

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post 9 Aug 2016, 21:21
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@sobolan: repet, ai dreptate! Se putea face.. si m-ai convins sa o iau de la fier vechi si sa o arunc prin garaj.
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post 11 Aug 2016, 18:36
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Dupa zeci de ore de bibilit la "suruburi", ieri mi-am mai petrecut 2-3 ore sa le desfac dupa sarme wacko.gif


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post 8 Sep 2016, 19:22
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Mecanica: spalata, curatata le perie de sarma, tratata cu evipass, grunduita si vopsita. ( NU am vopsit mecanica exact in culorile originale pentru ca nu doresc sa fac curcubeu pe sub masina.)

Plus maruntisuri ce mi s-au lipit de mana.



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ai curatat puntea si fuzetele...ok.....daca le-ai vopsit la spray si mai ales fara grund n-ai facut nimic,dupa prima iarna o sa o umpli de rugina toata pe dedsubt....nu era mai ok sa le lasi asa ?la cat ulei /vaselina si vopseaua originala pe dedesubt aveau crezi ca mai rugineau ? pierzi timp,parerea mea si de multe ori facerea asta de bine duce la rele......te inteleg daca le dadeai in camp electrostatic da' asa ce rost are ? sa uita cineva sub ea ?
Arcurile nu tin vopsite cu nimic decat electrostatic,la alea se da jos plasticul ala din capete,se da cu vaselina la greu ca acolo ele putrezesc si se pune furtun siliconic de udat gradina de juma' de tol pe capete....

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@ Domn Sobolan....nu inteleg ce doriti sa spuneti. Compresorul ala nu e degeaba acolo, s-a vopsit totul la pistol, s-a dat grund 2k inainte ( peste absolut orice piesa) si apoi vopsea ( cate 2 straturi de fiecare). Cu absolut toata vaselina, uleiul si vopseaua originala piesele au fost ruginite ( totusi au 36 de ani). Arcurile aveau ceva puncte de rugina, le-am curatat, am matuit vopseaua din fabrica si am dat peste ca sa pot ajunge la o singura culoare. Chiar daca nu tine vopseaua, prefer asa decat sa am un arc gri, unu negru, puntea galbena cu maro, o bascula neagra una galbena, o bieleta neagra una galbena etc ! Nu vreau curcubeu si punct. In plus daca la dumneavoastra a tinut si inca tine o vopsire integrala si pe bucati pe exteriorul masinii, facuta tot in aceleasi conditii ca si la mine, eu zic ca e ok si pe o amarata de mecanica ( oricum chiar si cu vopseaua electrostatica, pe drumurile din RO sare tot, pentru mine asta inseamna pierdere de bani.)
Rost are, pasarile mele spuneau ca nu e ok. Asa ca le-am vopsit, chiar daca nu se apleaca nimeni sa se uite pe sub ea. Iar practica de vopsire normala a mecanicii s-a folosit si la case mai mari ( bineinteles facuta de profesionisti, nu de Dorelul din mine laugh.gif )
P.s: Altii au dat cu bidineaua sau pensula peste tot pe sub masina si acolo nu mai crapa, nu mai pica etc etc...ba din contra e profi treaba.
NU considerati ca m-am suparat, dar nu am cautat nod in papura la nimeni si nici nu-mi place sa mi se caute.
@ maho: multumesc!

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post 8 Sep 2016, 21:02
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fara "domn" la mine smile.gif .....cu bidineaua data pe dedesubt tine de rupe daca stii in ce sa inmoi bidineaua aia si daca dai pe curat,nu peste mizerie.....Dacia mea nu-i punct de referinta,e o masina oarecare,mesterita de mine,in conditii oarecare,cu scule oarecare,nu are aspect cum is astea de stau la vitrina dar e de efect oarecum,ca mecanica sta bine de tot,merg cu ea zi de zi si vad eu ca se descurca inca si chiar decent,stie si sa scoata fum din anvelopele fata la nevoie,eu nu o corcolesc decat cu un garaj sau cu o husa si cu consumabile bune....atat.....
Vopseaua mea e 1k,aia exterioara....pana m-am lamurit eu ce e 2k(asta multimit de explicatiile lui tunderbird ) deja era tarziu...vad ca se caca la greu vrabiile pe ea da' n-are nici pe dracu comparativ cu symbolul meu caruia ii raman pete de la gainat si e luat de mine de nou).
Daca ai dat cu grund e ok,pe arcuri n-o sa tina,cand vei aerisi franele sa ai grija cum faci asta(de regula cu un furtun de perfuzii agatat de aerisitor) ca tot ti-o ataca pe brate/tamburi....aia galbena din fabrica e al dracului de buna,fara misto......
Te intreb,ce ai de gand sa faci cu masina si cam cat preconizezi ca ai sa mergi cu ea(in km pe an) ?

BTW: de ce sa caut naibii nod in papura ? ce interes am?daca-mi dai voie am sa ma pish pe sfaturile mele si o sa evit sa mai scriu.....deja unii se supara daca cauti sa dai un sfat bun,o iau ca pe o invidie..... dry.gif oare am invatat eu pe cineva sa-si toarne acid in bocanci ?

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post 8 Sep 2016, 21:26
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Stiti destul de bine ca va spun "domn" datorita varstei putin mai mari ca a mea ( e de bun simt ca nu ma pot tutuii ).
Apoi, nu am idee de cati km voi face cu ea. Sa o termin si am sa vad...cert e ca nu va fii masina de zi cu zii.
Am specificat, nu ma supar..dar cat timp se vad clar in poze detaliile..nu intelegeam de ce se pune problema de fara grund sau la spray...


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Stadiul in care se afla caroseria, plus cateva poze cu unele materiale cumparate si ceva piese de care aveam nevoie.



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Multumesc frumos, Daniel! Chiar apreciez ceea ce ai spus. Chiar daca imi doresc sa ajung cu masina la Sinaia( acest concurs fiind tinta mea), momentan raman modest si astept sa vad rezultatul final.


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Ma bucur sa aud si parerea dumneavoastra. Pentru curatare s-au folosit: bormasina, flexul, polizorul de banc sau peria manuala, in functie de ce piesa s-a curatat. In plus nu am folosit doar perie de sarma( fie ea dura sau moale), ci si discuri pentru slefuit sau smirghel pe suport pentru flex.


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Mic intro (dupa ce am luat grosul): am dat evipass, curatat cu peria, iar evipass si curatat; am suflat tot ce inseamna gaura, traversa, lonjeron; am curatat toate imbinarile de pamantul sau antifon vechi ce nu s-a luat la perie; am introdus evipass in lonjeroane si traverse. Apoi am dat grund, mastic, grund si 2 maini de antifon. In zile urmatoare voi da si vopseaua ( alb40) si ceva ceara in lonjeroane si traverse.
O sa revin si cu alte poze.

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Multumesc harby, dar mai e pana la acel nivel.
Robert, pai asta am si facut. Doar ca al doilea strat de grund a acoperit si masticul. Am scris mai sus etapele: strat grund, mastic pensulabil si iar grund.


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Poze

(am schimbat masticul pentru faptul ca nu mi-a ajuns cel cumparat initial si la 8 seara asta a fost la indemana biggrin.gif)



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Ultimul strat de antifon.

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Am reusit sa dau zilele trecute si vopseaua.
Primul strat (primele 4 poze), al doilea ( pozele 5 si 6) si dupa ce s-a intarit (poza 7) + mici chestii gasite

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Multumiri lui Roby Rapcea pentru bara fata, scris mic si alte prostii.

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