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in curbe mai stranse simt ca pierde aderentza

victor89
post 15 Dec 2013, 12:59
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Buna ziua sunt nou pe forum am fost plecat la munte si am observant ca in curbe mai stranse pierde aderentza si nu pare a fi stabile masina de la ce poate sa fie ? multumesc


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post 15 Dec 2013, 13:01
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Viteza..pneu...amortizor...suprafata rulare...etc.

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post 15 Dec 2013, 13:24
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post 15 Dec 2013, 18:40
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verifica amortizoare si bucsi bascula spate


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post 15 Dec 2013, 18:40
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silviu, crezi ca stie despre ce e vorba?

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post 15 Dec 2013, 19:16
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post 15 Dec 2013, 19:30
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sau schimbat amortizoare fata, bucsi bascule spate ,pivoti bielete antiruliu ,bilelete directive ,capete de bara ,flanse amortizor +rulment


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specific mecanicu a zis ca mai trebuie sa schimb bucsa la caseta de directive si bucsile de la puntea spate si am vazut ca imi intra foarte repede abs pe carosabil ud si franeaza prost asta am observant smile.gif si ma gandeam ca poate nu mia facut geometria bn

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post 15 Dec 2013, 19:45
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Schimba anvelopele.


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post 15 Dec 2013, 19:52
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am Dunlop SP Winter Sport dar sunt cam vechi adica din 2006 dar au carne cam 7mm


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post 15 Dec 2013, 19:54
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Foarte vechi.


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post 15 Dec 2013, 19:58
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o sa imi iau doua pe fatza noi sa vad diferentza smile.gif


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post 15 Dec 2013, 20:03
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Incearca cu 4 noi...mai bine!

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post 15 Dec 2013, 20:08
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vin sarbatorile si asa am schimbat aum 1 saptamana tot ce am enumerate mai sus si am bagat destui bani in ea smile.gif


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post 15 Dec 2013, 20:19
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Bucsile spate sunt problema ta


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post 15 Dec 2013, 20:21
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adica din cauza bucsilor de la puntea spate sa fie ?


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post 15 Dec 2013, 20:23
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Am scris incearca...nu neaparat sa le cumperi.
Poate gasesti la cineva de imprumutat pentru un test rapid.

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post 15 Dec 2013, 20:25
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o sa caut sa vad ca imi si trepideaza volanu putin in mers la viteza sa le mai echilibrez o data banuiesc


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post 15 Dec 2013, 21:39
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Mergi prin zapada cu masina, si daca ti se lipeste pe suprafata de rulare zapada, inca mai sunt ok anvelopele, daca raman curate, fara zapada, poti sa le arunci.


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post 15 Dec 2013, 22:04
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Anvelopele trebuie sa se descarce rapid de zapada nu sa se incarce.
Am vazut greseala asta destul de des...
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Si inca o greseala frecventa...

Se schimba doar anvelopele fata pentru a face masina mai stabila.Gresit !!!
Corect este sa ai toate anvelopele la fel de bune,inclusiv rezerva.De ce si rezerva ?

Sunt conducatori auto care nu pun baza pe rezerva...O lasa mai putin umflata,chiar fara aer deloc sau cu un cauciuc chel total.Gresit.

Anul trecut,pe 8 Ianuarie am vazut un accident groaznic langa Sibiu din cauza unei rezerve explodate,montata cu 5 km inainte.Era anvelopa din 2003...
Masina era a tatalui dar a condus-o fiul(care a si decedat)
Cand a ajuns tatal la locul accidentului...lacrimi ,durere si reprosuri pentru roata de rezerva.

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post 15 Dec 2013, 22:27
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Eu propun sa schimbi masina tongue.gif !Are un coleg un rs de vanzare si cred ca se tine ''destul'' de bine in curbe!!! Glumesc Nici eu nu recomand schimbul numai a 2 anvelope !


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post 15 Dec 2013, 22:50
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deja o dam in altele eu zic ce sa fac ca masina asta ma adduce la disperare o sa schimb si anvelopele si daca tot face ce sa ii mai fac sa ii dau foc


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post 16 Dec 2013, 12:22
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victor .. si eu am schimbat in primavara bieletele capatele de bara si mie imi bate volanul putin cu jantele pe 16 adica cele de iarna si pe 17 mai rau chiar. de ce nu pot sami dau seama.... am schimbat anvelopele de 3 ori nu noi bineinteles... jantele nu au nimic ca daca aveau imi faceau doar cu 1 set nu cu amandoua. geometria am facuto de 2 ori chiar..... ~X(


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post 16 Dec 2013, 13:24
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QUOTE(jas2 @ 15 Dec 2013, 22:04)
Anvelopele trebuie sa se descarce rapid de zapada nu sa se incarce.
Am vazut greseala asta destul de des
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tu confunzi capacitatea anvelopei de a degaja apa si noroiul , cu o modalitate de a afla daca mai este buna sau nu anvelopa...
O anvelopa care este ok trebuie sa fie ‘lipiciosa‘
adica masina ta se deplaseaza pe zapada usor, creand o pelicula de zapada pe anvelopa si in acest fel zapada de pe anvelopa adera la cea de pe strada si tu reusesti sa iesi de exemplu dintr-un morman de zapada,

la noroi si apa intradevar conteaza modelul anvelopei.


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post 16 Dec 2013, 15:37
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adica tehnologia SnowCatcher.

Citat "canelurile centrale ale anvelopei formează o rețea interblocată care captează zăpada în timp ce șofați, menținându-vă în mișcare chiar și în condiții de zăpadă abundentă."


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post 16 Dec 2013, 17:52
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Pai si atunci ce sa ii fac ,sa nu mai bata ca nu mai suport masina asta si cred ca o vand pana la urma


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post 16 Dec 2013, 18:57
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Nu cred in porcaria de tehnologie SnowCatcher cu care vinde(sau vrea sa vanda) Fulda.Logica mea imi spune ca partea de atac a unei anvelope trebuie sa degajeze imediat zapada pentru a ramane rizurile cat mai adanci si sa atace in profunzimea lor.

Sunt batran si harjait de sloganuri si tehnologii pompoase in care nu cred.

Oare de aceste huse s-o lipi zapada ?Se incarca cu zapada pentru aderenta ?


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post 16 Dec 2013, 22:22
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tocmai ca in acele rizuri se acumuleaza zapada smile.gif si ele fac priza la zapada de pe jos, dar vorbim strict de zapada.


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Daca anvelopa de iarna functioneaza pe principul expus mai sus, cu pelicula de zapada, inseamna ca toate tirurile nu au voie sa circule iarna, caci anvelopa se ridica la temperatura de 125 de grade si pe zapada creaza acel abur care ingheta instantaneu.

Cat despre tremurat directia, capetele de bara au defect la filet, sau piulita nu este buna. Si dintre toate bucsaraia schimbata, din nefericire ia in calcul si caseta de directie, sau pompa servo, care am observat ca se gripeaa din cand in cand, fiind necesara o schimbare de carbuni.


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