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Lag in acceleratie cu aerul cond inchis., Se comporta ca si cu aerul deschis...

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jas2
post 14 Jun 2011, 20:48
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Am un lag in acceleratie pe care nu-l inteleg...
Nu apare mereu ci doar cand merg mai mult timp in oras.Cu aeru deschis e mai rau...
Chestia ca apare uneori ma determina sa cred ca e ceva in neregula la motorul meu...

Stiu ca atunci cand dai drumul la aerul conditionat trage mai greu dar la mine uneori simptomul asta se simte si fara aer deschis.

Aveti simptomul asta ?Din cate am citit pe forum si pe net in general acest lag exista datorita injectiei,dar se plang multi...

Am citit tot pe aici insa nu sunt edificat...

http://www.google.ro/cse?cx=partner-pub-56...eratie&sa=Cauta

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post 14 Jun 2011, 20:50
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Se manifesta la fel daca apesi 100% pedala de acceleratie?


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post 14 Jun 2011, 20:52
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Da...

O data isi da drumul...parca e ceva infundat si scapa...
Cand si-a dat drumul mananca asfalt.


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post 14 Jun 2011, 20:55
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Atunci nu e a/cu', ala se decupleaza la apasarea completa a pedalei.
Ofera-i un clip.


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post 15 Jun 2011, 19:07
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Am aceiasi situatie dar numai pina in 2000 de ture , in ultima vreme s-a accentuat . Am constatat ca la iesire inainte de toba finala trage aer fals ,urmeaza sa o schimb si dupa aceea sa vad cum se comporta.


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post 15 Jun 2011, 19:34
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Pe acolo nu trage aer ci il sufla si asta e mai bine...
Lasand gluma deoparte ,trebuie rezolvata gaura aia dar nu influenteaza problema ta...cea cu lag-ul


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post 15 Jun 2011, 19:42
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Ciudat este totusi de ce se manifesta numai pina in 2000 de ture ,peste 2000 nu am probleme. ai dreptate sufla nu trage aer !

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post 15 Jun 2011, 19:55
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Ba si trage. Cand oxigenul ajunge la sonda lambda aceasta compenseaza, si, cel mai probabil ajungeti la simptome d-astea.


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post 15 Jun 2011, 20:06
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Nu imi ramine decit sa schimb toba de mijloc si cea finala si sa vad cum se comporta in continuare .


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post 16 Jun 2011, 06:32
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Si totusi...R19/16v

Aerul in sistemul de avacuare al gazelor are un singur sens...zic eu.
Chiar daca ar fi cum spui tu sa si traga nu vad logica...Ai ditamai gaurile in tobe,gauri normale,si cum apare o fisurica pe sistem e problema ca ar trage aer pe acolo si da parametrii motorului peste cap.E ilogic...

Noi vorbim de evacuare iar sonda lambda este pe admisie...Am spus o prostie(din graba) sonda sau sondele sunt pe evacuare...Am venit repede sa editez(as putea s-o fac si acum dar mai bine las asa)
Cand mi-am dat seama ce prostie am scris am si venit sa editez insa R19/16v ma corectase deja...
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Postez rezolvarea dupa ce o fac...


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post 16 Jun 2011, 07:03
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Sonda lambda e pe evacuare! Rolul acesteia este sa masoare cantitatea de oxigen din gazele esapate.

Dar poate n-o fi asa cum zic eu. Cel mai simplu pui un tester pe ea si vezi cum variaza sonda lambda.

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post 16 Jun 2011, 11:55
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Am rezolvat...la testul clip doar o eroare de airbag pe care o stiu...face figuri o mufa sub scaunul soferului...nimic deosebit...

Curatat corp clapeta(era imbacsit rau)
Curatat corpul motorasului ralanti(daca tot am desfacut...)
Curatat mufe si alti senzori...toti (inclusiv cel care citeste volanta)

Dat cu wd-40 la toate mufele(absolut toate)
Desfacut masele si pusa vaselina speciala.

Cam atat...

Nu mai am lag a scapat.gif

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post 16 Jun 2011, 13:58
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WD40 nu este pt. contacte ....


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post 16 Jun 2011, 15:18
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Ba este... wink.gif

http://www.smartbuy.ro/piese-auto-diverse/...ml~3061767.html

http://www.autospot.ro/articole/tehnologie...singur_tub.html

http://www.daciaclub.ro/spray-WD40-e-bun-p...ce-t113398.html

Eu folosesc wd-40 la partea electrica de vreo 3 ani...

Curata mufele si indeparteaza umezeala,nefiind bun conducator electric.Exact ce vreau.Are f multe utilitati...In portbagajul meu este nelipsit.

Ar trebui sa-mi ridici warn-ul pe chestia asta cu ochiul.gif

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post 16 Jun 2011, 15:45
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Inca odata ... WD40 nu este spray pt. contacte ..... daca vrei sa pricepi bine ... daca nu iarasi este bine .... principala lui calitate este de lubrifiere .... la contacte mai trebuie cateva calitati ....


Si warn-ul nu pot sa ti-l ridic, doar adminii pot ... si chiar daca as putea nu ti l-as ridica pt. ca l-ai meritat.


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post 16 Jun 2011, 17:02
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Nu intru in polemica cu tine nici pe warn de care ma doare-n fata mersului si nici pe wd-40.

Pun punct cu tine...Cu altii dezvolt la maxim...


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post 17 Jun 2011, 10:08
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Amandoi aveti dreptate... . Spray-ul dedicat contine substante care dizolva oxizii formati pe contacte iar WD-ul le protejeaza impotriva oxidarii. Deci, daca e buba, se foloseste spray-contact, daca e doar mentenanta, mere (si) WD40. Sunt sigur ca amandoi stiati asta, am scris postul asta pentru ca poate unii nu (si o palida incercare de a atenua anumite frictiuni - sper sa nu patesc ca-n viata reala, cand de obicei al treilea o incaseaza).


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Exact la asta ma refeream si eu .... spray-ul de contact dedicat curata contactele de oxizi ... lucru care WD40 nu il face ..... ca WD40 este foarte bun sa-l foloseste pentru a prevenii oxidarea contactelor de acord .... dar nu pt. curatarea lor ca atunci il foloseste degeaba ...


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post 1 Oct 2012, 21:52
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poti sa imi spui si mie unde gasesc aceste componente te rog frumos


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post 2 Oct 2012, 08:49
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Buna ziua(un salut nu strica )

Sper ca te descurci...este simplu...

http://www.google.ro/cse?cx=partner-pub-56...peta&gsc.page=1

http://www.google.ro/cse?cx=partner-pub-56...anti&gsc.page=1

http://www.google.ro/cse?cx=partner-pub-56...aptor%20turatie

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Salut si scuze pt gafa de aseara, dau si io buzna ca tartanu si nu salut sa imi fie rusine

multumesc frumos de ajutor

o sa incers sa rezolv problema si anunt rezultatele


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post 2 Oct 2012, 21:35
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Se accepta scuzele... cheers.gif

Acum observ ca tu ai motorizarea cu 16v...Nu pre sunt valabile informatiile mele de mai sus...dar poate prind bine altora...

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