Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ Se pregateste un logan mai scurt?Sub 4m?, Dar nu la noi :D

V-am facut curiosi? Nu, nu e vorba de loganul autohton ci de cel facut in india, care nu prea a avut noroc la cumparatori (desi ca taxi e foarte apreciat in india), in principal datorita faptului ca are o lungime mai mare de 4m (masinile de peste 4m sunt penalizate cu taxe si impozite in india) , pentru ca nu a fost localizat suficient de mult in india astfel incat sa fie ieftin (ma gandesc ca poate piese pentru loganul indian sosesc si din romania ) si pentru ca pretul era destul de mare datorita acestor lucruri. Se pare ca renault vrea sa schimbe lucrul asta, reducand lungimea masinii pana la 4m (de la 4,2m cat are el in india) , integrand mai bine productia componentelor in india si scazand preturile.. Nu prea se stie daca vor continua cu mahindra, eu zic ca ar putea sa il produca in uzina nissan din chennai New Delhi: The Logan may finally be tweaked to Indian specifications even as speculation continues about Mahindra Renault Private Limited (MRPL), the joint venture between Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M) and French carmaker Renault, being on the verge of a breakup. M&M has long been asking for changes in the Logan such as a shorter length and increased localisation. But Renault never agreed to these alterations, claiming that the sedan was based on a global platform and it made no sense to make changes for just one market (India). Now, with the buzz about things not working out between the two partners growing louder, Renault has indicated to suppliers that changes in the Logan’s architecture are imminent. According to sources, a “shortened” version of the car is ready for internal evaluation. The Logan measures 4.2m and the shortened version is less than 4m long, qualifying it for the lowest excise slab of 10%. Going by analysts, compared with the Maruti Swift Dzire, Tata Indigo, and Ford Ikon, the Logan’s price-value equation is quite weak. Issues such as the wiper being on the wrong side for a right-hand drive vehicle and pricing (between Rs4.2 lakh and Rs7 lakh), which have caused sales to falter, are likely to be addressed now. Industry sources and component suppliers say Renault has already indicated a robust sales outlook of 15,000 units of the Logan for 2010-11 against just 5,981 units sold between April and February this fiscal in the domestic and export markets. Carlos Ghosn, chairman and chief executive of Renault and Nissan, is currently visiting India to inaugurate the Chennai manufacturing facility, and M&M and Renault are scheduled to announce a “restructuring” of their joint venture later this month. Acknowledging that Logan sales have been disappointing, Ghosn said on Tuesday that “we have shared this concern [on sales] with Mahindra... looking at how to reposition this car... the Logan will stay in this market.” In the past, Renault officials have indicated that M&M was found lacking in the marketing and positioning of the car and design change was just one part of the problem since the Logan began selling in India. Either way, if clarity does emerge on what to do with the Logan (which sells successfully in many other countries), it is entirely possible that the car would be manufactured at the Chennai facility and not under MRPL. sursa: http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_renau...finally_1359914

V-am facut curiosi? Nu, nu e vorba de loganul autohton ci de cel facut in india, care nu prea a avut noroc la cumparatori (desi ca taxi e foarte apreciat in india), in principal datorita faptului ca are o lungime mai mare de 4m (masinile de peste 4m sunt penalizate cu taxe si impozite in india) , pentru ca nu a fost localizat suficient de mult in india astfel incat sa fie ieftin (ma gandesc ca poate piese pentru loganul indian sosesc si din romania ) si pentru ca pretul era destul de mare datorita acestor lucruri.

Se pare ca renault vrea sa schimbe lucrul asta, reducand lungimea masinii pana la 4m (de la 4,2m cat are el in india) , integrand mai bine productia componentelor in india si scazand preturile..

Nu prea se stie daca vor continua cu mahindra, eu zic ca ar putea sa il produca in uzina nissan din chennai

New Delhi: The Logan may finally be tweaked to Indian specifications even as speculation continues about Mahindra Renault Private Limited (MRPL), the joint venture between Mahindra & Mahindra (M&M) and French carmaker Renault, being on the verge of a breakup.

M&M has long been asking for changes in the Logan such as a shorter length and increased localisation.

But Renault never agreed to these alterations, claiming that the sedan was based on a global platform and it made no sense to make changes for just one market (India).

Now, with the buzz about things not working out between the two partners growing louder, Renault has indicated to suppliers that changes in the Logan’s architecture are imminent.

According to sources, a “shortened” version of the car is ready for internal evaluation. The Logan measures 4.2m and the shortened version is less than 4m long, qualifying it for the lowest excise slab of 10%.

Going by analysts, compared with the Maruti Swift Dzire, Tata Indigo, and Ford Ikon, the Logan’s price-value equation is quite weak.

Issues such as the wiper being on the wrong side for a right-hand drive vehicle and pricing (between Rs4.2 lakh and Rs7 lakh), which have caused sales to falter, are likely to be addressed now.

Industry sources and component suppliers say Renault has already indicated a robust sales outlook of 15,000 units of the Logan for 2010-11 against just 5,981 units sold between April and February this fiscal in the domestic and export markets.

Carlos Ghosn, chairman and chief executive of Renault and Nissan, is currently visiting India to inaugurate the Chennai manufacturing facility, and M&M and Renault are scheduled to announce a “restructuring” of their joint venture later this month.

Acknowledging that Logan sales have been disappointing, Ghosn said on Tuesday that “we have shared this concern [on sales] with Mahindra... looking at how to reposition this car... the Logan will stay in this market.”

In the past, Renault officials have indicated that M&M was found lacking in the marketing and positioning of the car and design change was just one part of the problem since the Logan began selling in India.

Either way, if clarity does emerge on what to do with the Logan (which sells successfully in many other countries), it is entirely possible that the car would be manufactured at the Chennai facility and not under MRPL.

sursa: http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_renau...finally_1359914

voiam sa zic "da' ce? Sandero nu le place?" dar dupa aia am vazut ca are 4.02m

pai unii zic ca vor aduce si sandero acolo (facut in africa de sud) , sedanul urmand sa urmareasca masini ca maruti swift dzire, nu stiu ce model de la tata si tot asa. Is curios insa daca isi vor scoate cheltuielile , ca nu cred ca e asa de usor sa tai 20cm dintr-un logan

in loc sa cheltuiasca o gramada de bani sa taie 20 de cm din logan, mai bine redeseneaza barile de protectie la sandero, taind 2 cm din lungime si au rezolvat problema...

pai tocmai ca vor sa il faca mai mic, dar sedan, nu hatchback

Pana si sa tai 2 cm din Sandero, si deja tot e complicat! Linie de productie, coduri diferite... pfffffffff. Cred ca mai simplu ar fi sa schimbe in specificatii lungimea la 3,99 si sa le plezneasca usor de zid pe fiecare in parte.

pai tocmai ca vor sa il faca mai mic, dar sedan, nu hatchback

asta nu intelesesem si nu credeam ca asta vor, pentru ca totusi un sedan sub 4 metrii va arata ca naiba

@paul damian ai dreptate, dar ar fi de modificat doar barile de protectie atat. in schimb la acest logan "mini me" care va iesi, vor fi mult mai multe chestii de modificat

This post has been edited by slider2: 19 Mar 2010, 22:59

o sa il faca coupe

nu conteaza asta la indieni , asta de exemplu e swift dzire, unul dintre cele mai vandute sedanuri din india

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zici ca e swift cu un rucsac in spate.

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???

Ca orice strutocamila gen C4 sedan, 206 sedan... masini care n-ar fi trebuit sa existe vreodata...

@Ov e veche poza aia, nu? Foarte veche, parca dinaintea lui Sandero.

e veche, dar mi-am adus aminte de ea acum. Posibil sa fie un photoshop, dar la cum am vazut ca sunt indienii (imi scapa acum numele aluia de pe discovery de facea masini la ciocan), poate va reprezenta o reala sursa de inspiratie

voiam sa zic "da' ce? Sandero nu le place?" dar dupa aia am vazut ca are 4.02m

Are de unde sa taie. Intre spoilere si traverse este gol, nu exista materiale pentru absortia loviturilor usoare ... ca la masini.

This post has been edited by IRONICK: 19 Mar 2010, 23:23

imi scapa acum numele aluia de pe discovery de facea masini la ciocan

leepu...

Are de unde sa taie. Intre spoilere si traverse este gol, nu exista materiale pentru absortia loviturilor usoare ... ca la masini.

Cam asa?

L.E. Am modificat imaginea din nou pt ca se vedea o dunga aiurea

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problema cu loganurile astea fara portbagaj din pozele alea modificate, este ca nu se vor vinde. dupa cum ati vazut in india se vand foarte bine sedanurile, cel mai bine, ori modelele alea din poza nu mai sunt sedanuri, sunt hatchback-uri.
daca aveti cunostinte despre modificatul pozelor, jucati-va un pic cu un logan, cam asa:
- taiati cam 5 cm din portbagaj
- taiati cam 15 cm din ampatament
- restul de 5 cm sa zicem ca se face din barile de protectie

voila

This post has been edited by Fratzica: 20 Mar 2010, 00:11

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ahaaa, deci modelul asta se conduce de pe bancheta din spate, nu?

la ce mananca (mai bine zis, ce nu mananca) indienii, poa` sa il conduca si din portbagaj.
Parca vezi pozele astea pe protv sub cine stie ce titlu bombastic )

Degeaba se agita indienii, se aleg cu un sandero suta la suta, nu baga sacalu bani in ei. Asta daca nu fac un facelift solenzei da' si acolo mai trebe luat o tzara la pila'

Cam asa?

L.E. Am modificat imaginea din nou pt ca se vedea o dunga aiurea

Fratzica, Loganul ala modificat (scurtat) chiar exista si se afla chiar la Pitesti

Dar Solenza ce are?
Cred ca se poate redesena usor ca sa incadreze in 4m, e sedan, e supermegaamortizata, numai buna pt ei.

Ce aiurea sa bage taxe la +4 metri, india e o tara mare, au loc masinile. Ma rog... ar fi tare ideea cu solenza, mai ales ca la baza e un automobil de conceptie romaneasca. Dar e tot hatchback (cu forma de sedan).

India nu e o tara chiar atat de mare, si in plus are aproape 1.200.000.000 de locuitori.

Fratzica,nu te joci un pic cu hatchback-ul sa-l faci doar cu 3 usi? ...si fara pasajul la roata spate,asa de mare.

@Filip ce-i conceptie romaneasca la soleza?!

Furtul...

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