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mihai1677
post 28 Dec 2006, 00:43
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Sunt proaspat posesor al unui renault 19 1,7i motor cod F3NL740
intrebarea este la cati km se schimba cureaua de distributie?


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post 28 Dec 2006, 00:59
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Daca esti "proaspat posesor" se schimba ieri! Primul lucuru pe care il faci cand iei o masina "noua" schimbi consumabile si kit distributie. Apoi, periodicitatea schimbarii kitului de distributie este 120.000km sau 60 de luni. Imi pare cam mult, dar daca asa zice documentatia...

Sa o porti sanatos!

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post 28 Dec 2006, 01:36
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Am mers cu el bucuresti buzau constanta bucuresti cca 600km
am aflat diverse probleme dar si consumul: 5,5l/100km pt 80km/h.
Probleme:
-Cablu ambreiaj (reglat sau schimbat) trebuie studiat tine f jos.
-Butonul de la climatizare am ramas cu el in mana era lipit cu superglue
-Termostatul ca inexistent (am obturat jumate de radiator ca sa stea acul pe la ora 10)
-Schimbator de viteze jocuri cam mari
-usa sofer trebe cca 5mm mai in interior
-usa spate dreapta nu merge inchiderea centralizata
-plus scartait de plastic abudent (astept primavara, acu este tare frig)
-de schimbat furtun apa , furtun recuperator gaze
- plus ca al meu motor este monopunct, de galerie este agatat un vacum mare cca 6cm diametru al carui stut are o bucata de furtun si atat care cine stie unde trebuie sa duca.
Referitor la curea stiu ca este prima pe lista, dar dupa ce vand dacia, ca sa am timp de reno.


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post 28 Dec 2006, 01:57
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Cablul e ieftinut. Reglajul e automat. Schimba-l, situatia se poate ameliora.
BUtoanele de la climatizare au acest prost obicei. Parca trebuie schimbat tot panoul.
Acul trebuie sa stea mai pe la vreo 10 in mers si poate sa urce pana pe la 11 cand ar trebui sa plece electroventilatorul.
La schimbatorul de viteze chiar nu stiu ce sa ii faci. Exista doua locuri unde acesta capata joc; in timonerie sau in punctul de pivotare al schimbatorului.
Scartaiturile...mai bine tac...naiba in mama lui de francez... 022.gif
Inchiderea centralizara o rezolvi spaland bine de tot mecanismele (asta in cazul in care acutatorul mai lucraza)
Furtun de vacum de 6cm?! Furtunul de admisie de aer? Cel care iese din carcasa filtrului de aer? Supravietuiesti fara ala smile.gif Se poate sa nu se duca nicaieri furtunul, se poate sa se duca pe sub bara, sau pe la aripa din stanga. Au existat mai multe versiuni. Dar oricum, trage-l undeva unde sa fie aer rece.
Spor la "reparatii" si iti doresc sa te bucuri de masina. Onoreaza-ne cu niste poze smile.gif


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post 28 Dec 2006, 01:59
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exista o membrana de vacum
de diametru cca 6cm
prinsa de galerie
iar din stutiut iese un furtunel
lasat asa sa atarne

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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:07
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Mai exact unde e acel furtun?
Arata foarte bine masina! Inca o data iti urez sa te folosesti de ea cu placere!
Ce nivel de echipare?

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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:09
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Dupa ce demontezi carcasa filtrului si dai jos, dupa injector inspre spate este o capsula de cca 6 cm diametru
Are si bube nu este fara cusur dar astept sa se incalzeasca afara. GTS

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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:17
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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:20
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Sa zicem piesa nr 11 aia ar trebui sa fie. deci ce este cu furtunelul din cap trebuie sa stea liber sau trebuie sa duca undeva?


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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:23
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Nu ai #11?

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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:25
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AHA gata duce la canistra prin teul ala care la mine este infundat cu un surubel. Oare din cauza asta sta relantiul la 1000 rot ( intrebare retorica).
Mercic f mult, dupa ce ma apuc serios de ea vin si cu pozele.
UPS acum vazui ca este o piesa nr 6 care nu cred ca o am. hm.

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post 28 Dec 2006, 02:27
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Spor la treaba!
750±50rpm relantiul

Caut-o pe la dezmembrari...
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post 28 Dec 2006, 17:24
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Piesa #6 din al doilea jpg exista precum si #11 din primul jpg nu exista furtunelul de la 11 la teu.


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post 28 Dec 2006, 19:54
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mda, probabil ca a fost dat jos dintr-un motiv... pune'l si tu si vezi ce se intampla...


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Inca o intrebare:
Pe unde intra apa in partea dreapta fata, am gasit mocheta plina de apa, pe la trapa nu se vede a intra, se vede in dreapta langa usa pe la mijlocul usii, pe sub plasticul ce acopera contrapragul, este o problema de a lui r19 sau..
Exista cumva niste canale de scurgere a apei de la trapa?


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Da, parca exista pe fiecare stalp al masinii (mai putin cel central) cate un tub de cauciuc de scurgere. Am impresia ca se termina in spatele rotilor din fata, sub protectia de plastic. Se poate sa se fi infundat, dar nu sunt convins. Nu e problema generala, dar asta nu inseamna ca nu s-a intamplat la tine.

LE In schema nu sunt prezente decat 2 furtune, ambele pe stanga masinii, in stanga si in spate. Da jos plasticele si uite-te.


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Aripa dreapta fata nu este a masinii este schimbata posibil sa fi bagat acel capat de furtun in interior, ma uit diseara, dau de veste. mercic.
ps cum se scot plasticele prin tragere sau prin tragere in sus in jos(deplasar logintudinala)

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Nu cred ca asta e cauza blocajului. Cel mai probabil s-au adunat frunze si namol in contraaripa si apa nu mai are pe unde sa se scurga si creste nivelul in furtun. Investigheaza repede ca o apuca ruginitul si nu vrei asta smile.gif


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si plasticele?


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smile.gif N-am inteles... ce e cu ele? Da-le jos, vezi ce s-a intamplat in spatele lor!


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Am inteles acum dupa cum spui cred ca se dau repede, m-am chinuit o data la un mercedes ML nu trebuia tras ci impinse in sus.


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smile.gif) 19le nu'i ML, trage de ele cu mila si atentie wink.gif

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Salutari ! LA MULTI ANI in primul rand ! Am si eu o intrebare ... ce pret are estimativ o curea de distributie noua pentru un R19 (motor F3N 1721cmc phase1). Masina mea are 131.000 km si stiu ca i s-ar fi schimbat pe la 70.000 km deci ar cam fi cazul sa o schimb si eu . A doua intrebare ar fi unde pot gasi si eu cele 2 tampenii biggrin.gif hidraulice de la portbagaj care il tin ridicat ( am un R19 hatchback). Ma supara foarte tare in special cand este frig afara nu mai tin deloc mad.gif . Li se poate face ceva sa fie mai puternice, se strang cumva , se poata baga ceva presiune in ele sau se schimb pur si simplu ?

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131.000? Nu m-as baza pe cifra asta daca nu e sustinuta bine de tot de ceva.
Oricum, schimb-o ca nu se stie cand a fost schimbata ultima oara.
Parerea mea e sa te duci la serviceul tau local reno si sa le ceri un pret pentru:
77 01 468 167 (kit distributie)
Sau:
http://www.elitecat.cz/ArticleDetail.aspx?...0&NodeId=100452
http://www.elitecat.cz/ArticleDetail.aspx?...0&NodeId=100452
Echilibror hayon:
http://www.elitecat.cz/ArticleDetail.aspx?...0&NodeId=100452


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Revenim cu piesa 11, aseara dupa ce am schimbat termostat un teu si un furtun crapat plus antigel, m-am uitat si la acest vacum, daca tragi aer pe furtunel nu tine depresiunea, cu motorul pornit nu se simte nimic nici presiune nici depresiune, comcluzie: membrana sparta?, ce face aceasta piesa? Cum trebuie sa functioneze defapt, asta pana duminica cand o voi da jos sa vad ce si cum face.

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posibil sa fie un gen de regulator de presiune benzina, care sa aiba membrana sparta


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Este un vacum ce deschide circulatia vaporilor din canistra cu carbon spre admisie motor, dar vreau sa stiu cum fuctioneaza, trebuie sa fie membrana sau nu etc.


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Aici nu te pot ajuta, imi pare rau...


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Am fost la un magazinas de aici din cartier mai dotat in piese auto . Imi pot aduce kitul (curea distributie + role) la 470 RON per total . Mecanicul mi-a spus insa ca nu este nevoie si de schimbarea rolelor ci doar de curea si asta peste 3-4.000 de km . Voi ce ziceti ... neaparate schimbate rolele la schimbarea curelei de distributie ? Asa cureaua cost 97 RON biggrin.gif . Rola intinzatoare 170 RON iar cealalta 200 RON sad.gif . Niste scoruri care nu sunt foarte mari dar totusi punand la socoteala si montarea wink.gif...


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In sfarsit am gasit pe unde intra apa in masina.
Aseara am umplut rezervorul de lichid pt spalat parbrizul, apoi cand am actionat pompita sa spal luneta surpriza a inceput sa se ude mocheta,
azi dimineta nu mai aveam lichid in rezervor dar aveam o mare balta in masina.


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