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Problema frana, Nu mai am frana, decat putin pe spate

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iulianu00
post 20 Feb 2010, 20:42
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Am o problema, acum 20 de minute am ajuns acasa din oras si am fost nevoit sa franez putin mai brusc, dar in limita bunului simt. Masina s-a oprit, a franat, dar brusc pedala mi-a fugit la fund, nu mai am frana, decat parca franeaza putin spatele, nu mai am lichid de frana in butoias si imi apare in bord STOP si imi zice ceva de frane computerul de bord (in germana).
Are cineva idee ce poate fi? O fi sarit vreun furtunas ceva?

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post 20 Feb 2010, 21:09
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Se poate sa fi sarit vreun aerator, de aceea ai ramas fdara frane. Pune iar lichid de frana si aeriseste-le. Daca nici asa nu merge, verifica toate placutele, vezi cata carne mai au...


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post 20 Feb 2010, 21:17
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Placutele sunt bune, numai ce le-am verificat.


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post 20 Feb 2010, 21:22
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uitate la fiecare roata in parte unde se vad scurgeri


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post 20 Feb 2010, 23:06
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vezi ca este de la etrieri


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post 21 Feb 2010, 10:08
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Ce anume de la etrieri? De ce am ramas fara lichidul de frana? Fiti putin mai concreti va rog! tongue.gif


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post 21 Feb 2010, 10:17
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Parerea mea e ca ai vreun furtun spart.Am patit-o.Lichidul de frina nu dispare pur si simplu.Pe undeva a curs.La mine s-a intimplat in trafic,in plin centru orasului.Am franat la maxim din cauza unui gura casca care a vrut sa intre pe banda mea(fara sa se asigure si fara sa semnalizeze berbecul mad.gif ).Noroc ca a tinut frana de mana! biggrin.gif


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post 21 Feb 2010, 11:58
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Am verificat la fiecare roata, nu se vad nici un fel de scurgeri, pete de ulei, iar furtunasele cu lichidul de frana sunt intacte...


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post 21 Feb 2010, 12:06
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Nu cumva ai tamburi in spate?


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post 21 Feb 2010, 12:09
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Ba da, am tamburi, nu am discuri de frana pe spate.


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post 21 Feb 2010, 12:10
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Atunci eu zic pistonas.


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post 21 Feb 2010, 12:12
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Poti sa detaliezi putin, te rog? Nu ma prea pricep....


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post 21 Feb 2010, 16:12
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In tambur ai un pistonas care actioneaza sabotii. Posibil pe acolo sa fi pierdut lichid.

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post 21 Feb 2010, 17:28
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mai poti verifica sub preshul/mocheta de la sofer...daca s-au dus garniturile din pompa ,lichidul poate sa curga in acel loc.


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post 21 Feb 2010, 18:11
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M-am uitat sub pres si sub mocheta, nu e nimic. La tamburi maine am sa ma uit. Alte idei mai are cineva?

Multumesc de raspunsurile voastre de pana acum.

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post 21 Feb 2010, 20:59
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nu te uiti bine,pentru ca nu se poate sa nu curga pe nicaieri si sa dispara lichidul din bidonas


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post 22 Feb 2010, 09:01
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Nu am putut sa verific 100% sigur, am verificat fugitiv si am adunat pareri, sfaturi plus ca a fost duminica.

Astazi o sa cumpar lichid de frana, o sa aerisesc franele si o sa pun lichid sa vad pe unde pierd lichidul de frana.


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post 22 Feb 2010, 09:11
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QUOTE(iulianu00 @ 22 Feb 2010, 09:01)
Nu am putut sa verific 100% sigur, am verificat fugitiv si am adunat pareri, sfaturi plus ca a fost duminica.

Astazi o sa cumpar lichid de frana, o sa aerisesc franele si o sa pun lichid sa vad pe unde pierd lichidul de frana.
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pana nu faci o verificare amanuntita, nu are rost sa aerisesti si sa completezi......incearca sa o ridici pe elevator sau pune-o pe un canal si verifica fiecare roata in parte. Este imposibil sa piarda lichidul si sa nu se vada pe unde........


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post 22 Feb 2010, 09:49
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Mai am inca o intrebare. Daca ar fi fost pistonasul de la tamburi, as mai fi avut frana pe spate? Nu am mai pornit masina de atunci, dar pana am ajuns acasa si am bagat-o in garaj spatele inca frana slab, dar frana. (am incercat de 2 maxim 3 ori).


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post 22 Feb 2010, 09:52
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QUOTE(iulianu00 @ 22 Feb 2010, 09:49)
Mai am inca o intrebare. Daca ar fi fost pistonasul de la tamburi, as mai fi avut frana pe spate? Nu am mai pornit masina de atunci, dar pana am ajuns acasa si am bagat-o in garaj spatele inca frana slab, dar frana. (am incercat de 2 maxim 3 ori).
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da, asta pana la epuizarea lichidului de frana.......dar in acelasi timp trebuie sa prinda si fata.


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post 22 Feb 2010, 15:34
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Acum am venit din garaj, de la masina. Nu am gasit nici o scurgere la nici o roata. Am dat fiecare roata jos, nimic, nici pe interiorul rotii nici pe tamburi nici pe discurile de frana.

Acum urmeaza sa primesc lichid de franda DOT 3 si voi face o proba sa vad pe unde am pierdut lichidul.


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post 22 Feb 2010, 15:46
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Vreo teava ruginita de pe circuitul de franare care a cedat? Eu asa am patit la fostul R18, a pocnit pe sub masina una dintre tevile care merg spre spate. Schimbata cu teava de dacie, giugiuc mustiuc.


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post 22 Feb 2010, 16:31
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Ok, am pus lichid de frana si am gasit buba. E spart furtunasul (cred ca racord ii zice) care duce la roata dreapta fata, la discul de frana.

Acum problema este cum se schimba? Cu ce il pot inlocui? Cat costa unul nou? De unde?


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post 22 Feb 2010, 16:46
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QUOTE(iulianu00 @ 22 Feb 2010, 16:31)
Acum problema este cum se schimba? Cu ce il pot inlocui? Cat costa unul nou? De unde?
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Nu te panica, nu arunci tu masina din cauza asta. wink.gif
Uite, ca sa iti faci o idee de preturi in .FR, furtunas Bendix si Corteco.
Codul Corteco vad ca este 19020611, este o marca care de obicei se gaseste la magazinele de piese din RO.
Codul Renault vad ca este 7700834731, ai putea lansa o intrebare de pret la Renault. wink.gif

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post 22 Feb 2010, 16:59
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Mersi de info Adi.

22 Feb 2010, 17:05:
Am comandat ambele furtunase (dreapta si stanga) la un service din Resita, 26 RON bucata, maine le primesc.

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post 22 Feb 2010, 18:38
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destul de ieftine in resita, vad ca in .fr sunt reduse cu 55% la circa 12 euro bucata...


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post 22 Feb 2010, 20:04
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Si mie mi s-au parut ieftine, pe ingaraj .ro cele mai ieftine pe la 100 ron am gasit....


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Cred ca ti-a frecat undeva...Controleaza...sa nu patesti la fel dupa 3-400 de km...


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post 23 Feb 2010, 22:37
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Nu sunt de Logan, cele de Logan sunt mai scurte. Sunt de Laguna, astazi le-am primit, 26 RON bucata, am luat doua bucati.

Da, intr-adevar a frecat roata pe furtunas, cand viram dreapta maxim. Astazi am dat roata jos si am vazut. Nu stiu cum s-a strambat o parte din contra-aripa si a impins furtunasul inspre roata. Maine am sa montez furtunasul si am sa indrept bucata de contra-aripa.


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