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Oglinda electrocrom, La masini fara senzor de ploaie/lumina

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post 29 Sep 2010, 12:42
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un cod cu 81..82 de origine doar pentru oglinda are cineva ?

eu am ambii senzori si ca dimensiuni oglinda e identica, doar ca nu e heliomata... si ar fi nice una wink.gif


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post 29 Sep 2010, 12:47
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Nu mai stiu ce culoare are dar este usor de verificat daca exista o mufa libera - aia este.
Desfa cochila, cum zice DanCVA!


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post 29 Sep 2010, 13:23
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mai multe detalii gasiti si aici
http://www.reno.ro/Inlocuire-Oglinda-Retro...t41062-s30.html


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post 4 Oct 2010, 07:25
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Cochilia aceea de plastic, care vine prinsa in jurul suportului oglinzii, este diferita la masinile cu oglinda electrocrom fata de cele cu oglinda normala?


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post 4 Oct 2010, 07:53
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La mine asa a fost. Se putea prinde dar ramanea putin deschisa. Cred ca merge sa ajustezi din "cocoasa" din interior. Eu am luat alta deoarece imi rupsesem o clema.


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post 4 Oct 2010, 07:54
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Nu este diferita in functie de oglinda. Cochilia este diferita in functie de senzorul de temperatura interioara pentru clima, la faza 2 fata de faza 1.


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post 4 Oct 2010, 08:18
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Doar la facelift exista diferenta intre cochilii in functie de tipul de oglinda?


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post 4 Oct 2010, 09:01
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Nu m-ai inteles.
Diferentele sunt intre cochilia de faza 1 si cochilia de faza 2 si sunt date de tipul senzorului de temperatura. La faza 1 exista un motoras care forteaza aerul sa intre prin senzor. La faza 2 nu au mai pus motorasul ala.
Conturul exterior al cochiliei este acelasi.
Ca sa te edifici uite link-urile urmatoare:
http://www.reno.ro/index.php?act=Attach&ty...t&id=1627631598
http://www.reno.ro/AC-clima-si-oglinzi-ele...t179200-s0.html


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post 4 Oct 2010, 09:16
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Stiam de diferentele dintre senzori intre 2.2 si 2.1, dar ma intrebam daca nu cumva suportul celor 2 tipuri de oglinda sunt diferite si implicit si cochilia aceea(ma refer strict la 2.2), pentru ca eu am senzor de ploaie/lumina dar am oglinda normala si vreau sa pun electrocrom. Mersi pentru lamuriri cheers.gif.

L.E: Din pacate nici la mine nu exista mufa de alimentare pentru oglinda electrocrom sad.gif , va trebui sa trag si eu fire de la plafoniera cum a facut Dan smile.gif .

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post 4 Oct 2010, 10:32
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Deci problema e simpla:
-la 2.1 cu senzori lumina/ploaie/clima exista cablajul cu mufa gri pentru oglinda.
-la 2.2 nu exista cablajul cu mufa gri
Suportul celor 2 tipuri de oglinzi (la masinile cu senzori) este identic de la pastila lipita pe parbriz pana la nuca din care se regleaza oglinda.
Cochilia este aproximativ identica la senzor clima cu motoras fata de cel fara (2.1 fata de 2.2), difera doar la interior sistemul de prindere al senzorului: http://www.reno.ro/index.php?act=Attach&ty...t&id=1627566371 Diferenta mare e la masinile fara senzori, difera totul: pastila, piciorul oglinzii, cochilia... de fapt cochilia nici nu exista, doar un plastic care imbraca piciorul oglinzii.

Mai multe amanunte aici:
http://www.reno.ro/index.php?showtopic=410...dpost&p=1811677

N-am inteles exact cum se demonteaza oglinda: se trage perpendicular pe parbriz, sau se culiseaza in sus inspre tapiteria plafonului? Banuiesc ca a doua varianta. La ce oglinzi am mai demontat pana acum, surubelul cu cap imbus de strangere a suportului pe pastila de pe parbriz era accesibil, se slabea si oglinda culisa usor pana iesea, aici ai acces la surubel abia dupa ce desfaci oglinda sad.gif

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post 4 Oct 2010, 11:21
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@DanCVA: Cat de greu a fost sa tragi firul de alimentare de la plafoniera? Si de ce ai plafoniera doar cu 2 butoane? unsure.gif
Banuiesc ca firul gri ce iese din oglinda electrocrom este + pentru alimentarea acesteia iar cel negru este - ?unsure.gif Sper sa nu fie invers happy.gif .

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post 4 Oct 2010, 11:42
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Oglinda are mufa cu 6 pini, doar 2 sunt prezenti:
-pin 1 > +12V dupa contact (pinul din colt)
-pin 2 > masa


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post 4 Oct 2010, 13:13
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Hack, este asa cum zice 19vik.
Pozele din primul post nu sunt cu masina mea. Ideea asta avut-o un spaniol si eu m-am gandit sa nu inventez apa calda. Masina mea are plafoniera cu 3 spoturi.
Eu am folosit alimentarea din plafoniera pentru luminile de curtoazie de la parasolare.
Lui Bacu i-am alimentat oglinda electrocrom din plafoniera. Mufa cu care vine oglinda electrocrom se scoate foarte usor si pe terminalele ei poti lipi cele doua fire cu care vii din plafoniera.


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post 4 Oct 2010, 17:44
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Am facut-o si pe asta laugh.gif , pana la urma nu a fost dracu' chiar asa negru...un sfat pentru cei care vor sa demonteze/monteze oglinda: aveti grija la panglicile ce merg la senzorul de lumina/ploaie si la mufa pentru senzorul de temperatura, sa nu le agatati cu suportul oglinzii si sa le rupeti sleep.gif .

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P.S: Multam de sfaturi happy.gif .

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post 4 Oct 2010, 17:58
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post 5 Oct 2010, 15:02
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Stie cineva de unde pot cumpara o oglinda elecrocrom (doar oglinda)?
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post 5 Oct 2010, 16:17
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QUOTE(skorpio_bog @ 5 Oct 2010, 13:06)
dezmembrari, sectiunea bursa.
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Alte recomadari?


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post 5 Oct 2010, 17:31
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Nu ai cautat destul, incearca si la sectiunea Anunturi - Oferte Permanente sau la dezmembrari, sau la reprezentanta...

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Salut! De la reprezentanta am luat eu cu aproape 4 milioane. Da' face, e foarte util in ziua de azi cind toti topirlanii si-au pus "xenoane". Bafta!


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Am o mica nedumerire, la Megane 2 cu oglinda electrocrom din fabrica in momentul cand introduci schimbatorul in marsarier se taie alimentarea de la oglinda? unsure.gif


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post 7 Oct 2010, 12:10
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Nu are legatura cu marsarierul. In schema originala si la 2.1 si la 2.2 e legata la siguranta comuna S din habitaclu: siguranță senzor temperatură habitaclu (1872) - retrovizor interior (1340) - senzor ploaie și lumină (1415), linia AP1A + dupa contact.


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post 7 Oct 2010, 12:23
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Am vazut ca la unele masini, BMW spre exemplu, se taie alimentarea la oglinda atunci cand masina merge cu spatele, din motive de siguranta banuiesc si ma intrebam daca si la Renault e la fel. Multumesc pentru lamurire smile.gif .


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eu am din fabrica asa ceva si nu se taie nici o alimentare.


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Si la mine se albastreste uneori cand bag in marsarier. Nu mi se pare suparator. Se albastreste dar vezi in continuare ce se intampla in spate.


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Si uite asa nu mai functioneaza oglinda elecrocrom.
Nu se mai inchide la lumina puternica.
A mai avut cineva probleme?
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Incearca sa cureti cu un bat de ureche senzorul care inchide la culoare oglinda. Ai un senzor in fata si unul in spate. Daca nu merge, cauta alta oglinda.


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