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post 10 Mar 2010, 20:34
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Nu vad de ce ar fi fost probleme daca puneai 40 in loc de 45...cind ma gindesc la faptul ca unii au pe 1,9dci anvelope stock de genul 195/xx/15 si ei pun 235/xx/17...si nu se intimpla nimic (din ce spun ei) cu sistemele de protectie si de fapt nu ar avea de ce DACA se pastreaza diametrul/circumferinta rotii,nu?
Mai trebuie umblat si in calculator pentru a inscrie noua valoare si in plus,daca nu e trecuta in talon...nu stiu cum e in vest dar pe aici poti avea probleme.
De ex la mine sint trecute in talon 205/55/16 si 205/60/16 iar masina vine in vest DOAR cu 225/45/17.
Nu stiu ce e in calculatorul masinii insa diferentele de viteza sint atit intre vitezometru si cruise control (cam 2-3km) cit si intre vitezometru si GPS (pina in 5-6km maxim la viteza mai mare).


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Ce mi-ar placea si mie un 235/xx/17" sau 18"!!! Mor de ciuda caci am vazut pe un Passat asa, la fel si pe Insignia...oare nu se poate si pe L3!??! biggrin.gif


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De ce mureai de ciuda? Stii cat face o anvelopa buna la dimensiunile alea? smile.gif Stii cate anvelope vei schimba la din cauza uzurii?


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post 10 Mar 2010, 21:37
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Pur si simplu ca sunt mai late, imi place mai mult cum arata, cel putin 215 pe 17" nu arata grozav...inalte si subtiri...dintr-un anumit unghi..hai sa zicem macar un 225 de-ar fi fost:P


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post 10 Mar 2010, 22:33
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Pai eu am 225/45R18 ... deci exista si pe Laguna 3 . Cred ca pe variantele fara 4 Control nu e foarte mare schimbarea ... atat timp mentii circumferinta cat de cat initiala. Problema la mine e 4Control (rotile care vireaza pe spate) care sunt foarte strans legate de viteza. De acolo pot aparea probleme la ESP ... ABS ... etc . Asta a fost si explicatia celor de la Renault.
In fine ... "problema" a fost rezolvata discutia se poate considera terminata .

P.S. Insignia care vine cu jante pe 18 are tot 225/45R18 ...tongue.gif

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post 11 Mar 2010, 09:35
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Am facut mai demult un configurator la Insignia si sigur sigur erau 235/xx/xx


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post 11 Mar 2010, 09:57
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Am un prieten care are in Franta o Insignia motorina de 130 cai si te asigur ca pneurile sunt identice cu ale mele 225/45R18 tongue.gif. Acum poate in Romania se vand altfel ... cine stie ... . O singura chestie care ma deranjeaza la el este ca masina a fost conceputa pentru jante pe 16 iar cel pe 18 se vad cam ridicol ... ma refer la discuri si etrier ... sunt prea mici tongue.gif. Dar in fine ... fiecare cu ce il doare biggrin.gif. Si apropo ... daca comanzi Insignia cu jante le 18 roata de rezerva e optiune si costa destul de mult ... asa ca vine standard tot cu kit de umflare identic cu al meu ... Michellin


Revin ... vorbesc prostii tongue.gif ... intradevar Insignia e facuta pt jante pe 17 minim ... si intradevar cele pe 18 nu sunt 225 ci 245 icon_mrgreen.gif ... my bad ... cred ca ma lasa vederea huh.gif sau amicul meu are pe 17 ....


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post 11 Mar 2010, 10:45
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Care o fi criteriul pentru care o masina de 150cp are 245mm latime la anvelope iar alta,de la alta marca are 205mm desi puterea e mai mare.Nu ar trebui sa fie o corelare intre latime si puterea 9la roata,la volanta) dezvoltata?
La mine nu stiu cum de au reusit sa puna jantele de 16"...daca ar fi nevoie de un plumb prin lipire pe interior acesta ar fi smuls de etrier,nu e nici 1/2 cm distanta...


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post 11 Mar 2010, 10:53
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Cred ca PDG (pachet de drumuri grele) e de vina ... cauciucuri cu talon mare ... scut metalic ... suspensii mai ridicate ...


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:06
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Eu ma refer la masini care circula si in vest.Talonul e altceva,ma gindeam la latimea anvelopei.
Maina ta are 225 iar acea Insignia care are putere mai mica are 235 sau chiar 245mm...E adevarat ca jantele de 18" cu anvelope inguste arata ca dracu insa trebuie sa tii cont si de faptul ca o anvelopa mult mai lata decit ar trebui pentru o masina duce la cresterea consumului.La Laguna gasesti 205mm de la 115cp pina la 170cp...

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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:41
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nu cred ca are legatura, cel putin pt producatori, puterea cu latimea anvelopelor

eu la mondeo am 235/45/R17 si 145cp. daca luam motorul de 1.8 diesel sau 2.5T benzina, si alegeam jante de 17, tot aceleasi dimensiuni le aveam la cauciucuri


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post 11 Mar 2010, 11:46
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post 15 Mar 2010, 11:51
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Am mai facut rost de vreo 2 poze tongue.gif ...

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post 15 Mar 2010, 12:03
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Destul de exemplificativ ? radmasa.gif tongue.gif ....

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Frumoase poze! biggrin.gif
In special ultima!!! Se tine dupa tine colegu'? Te depaseste?!? Macar cand stai pe loc 168.gif


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post 15 Mar 2010, 19:04
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icon_mrgreen.gif cand stau pe loc ... ai dreptate rolleyes.gif . In orice caz cat e ea de mica ... mama mama cat intra in ea fara bancheta spate tongue.gif

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Frumoasa tare masina. Parca e rupta din alt 'film'. Culoarea e extraordinara. Ce dimensiune au rotile? 215/50/R18?

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post 19 Mar 2010, 12:13
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In orice caz nu sunt dimensiunile potrivite pentru drumurile din Romania ... hahaha . Deja ma doare sufletul cand ma gandesc ca vin cu ea tongue.gif ... mai ales ca am auzit ca dupa zapada Romania e tara craterelor wacko.gif


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post 22 Mar 2010, 12:11
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A venit si caldura in sfarsit. Cu ocazia asta am schimbat pneurile de iarna cu cele de vara. In timpul operatiunii am reusit sa fac cateva poze cu telefonul la sistemul 4Control de la rotile spate. Sper sa intelegeti ceva tongue.gif

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P.S. Masina a implinit frumoasa "varsta" de 17.000 km happy.gif

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Pai..." bday.gif "
A mea are putin peste 12.000km.
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post 25 Mar 2010, 09:53
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Pai la sfarsitul saptamanii viitoare ne vedem pe la semafoare prin Bacau si atunci va avea peste 19.000 km ph34r.gif . Pe 08.04 esti invitatul meu la intalnirea Reno` din parcarea mall-ului sa schimbam pareri cool.gif


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Gata ... maine plec cu ea spre Romania. Am echilibrat azi rotile ... am pus lichid la "tzashnitoare" ... uleiul e brici ... benzina ii mai trebuie si e gata. Asa ca "uis mi lac" si ne auzim in Romania.


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salut,ma intereseaza si pe mine o laguna 3 gt,2.0 dci cu 4control,dar mi-e frica de gropile din ROMANIA, oare ar merge cu cauciucuri pe 17'' ???
mai stiti pe cineva cu o asemenea masina?
renault romania nu are curaj sa o vanda,am inteles ca bratele sistemului de virare spate sunt f. sensibile la socuri!
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Am ajuns cu bine in Romania ph34r.gif ph34r.gif . Rotile din spate nu vireaza chiar asa mult ca in acel filmulet. Unghiul e destul de mic.
Daca te gandesti sa iti iei GT iti recomand sa mergi cu varianta normala si cu GT. Roti mai mici de 18" nu merg puse din cauza discurilor fata care sunt destul de mari. Suspensia este destul de rigida pentru drumurile din Romania ... plus ca serviceurile se vor uita ca la avioane la sistemul 4Control in special pentru facut unghiurile care se fac pe toate 4 rotile.
2. Nu exista roata de rezerva pe GT ... ai chit de reparare. Te ajuta la o pana ... dar daca iei vreo groapa si se duce un cauciuc ... ai toate sansele sa ramai in drum ... si un set de pneuri te ajunge la 1000 de euro lejer.
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