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post 8 Jun 2011, 15:41
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Trebuie sa schimb si eu gumele de vara, caci NCT-urile mele sunt cam uzate, adica mai au profil destul pe ele, dar cauciucul a cam imbatranit, se observa crapaturile in suprafata acestuia. Ce recomandati pt 205/55R16? Rog pareri de la cei care au avut modelele recomandate, nu din auzite.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 15:56
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Michelin Primacy Hp - Sunt beton (cel putin pt mine) .Au numai plusuri din partea mea.Acum depinde si de buget.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 16:00
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Buget am in jur de 400 ron per bucata. Am de ales cam din urmatoarele modele:

GOODYEAR - Eagle F1 GSD 3
MICHELIN - Pilot Sport 3
Vredestein Sportrac 3


Si la un pret ceva mai mare de 400 ron bucata, Toyo Proxes T1R.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 16:03
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Eu aleg michelin daca trebuie sa aleg.Nu prefer profilul in veeee.Toyo Proxes T1R am avut pe fosta masina de la munca si nu au fost cine stie ce.

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post 8 Jun 2011, 16:15
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foarte multumit de F1....sunt la al doilea set si n am ce sa le reprosez....


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post 8 Jun 2011, 17:26
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gotty, prima mea preferinta sunt tot GY F1, am citit numai de bine despre ele, insa am vazut ca se tocesc cam repede pe margini, unde au acele mici striatii si ramane doar V-ul de pe banda mediana. Insa am auzit ca ultimele modele au fost fabricate in China, nu se mai fac in Germania si ca ar fi fost scoase din productie de vreo 2 ani, chiar daca cei care vand pe forum spun ca sunt made in germany cu dot din 2011.

Imi plac insa si PS3-urile de la michelin, am vazut ceva reviewuri bune la ele si sunt putin mai scumpe decat F1-urile.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 17:48
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Daca vrei din alea in V gudiăr' baga un drum in cora pantelimon ca au la 390 lei bucata.Sunt si made in Germany .Cand am fost eu aveau (acum 3 sapt) . Eu nu as lua asa ceva pt ca am avut unele surprize cu ele pe drum cu noroi si cand am fost luat prin surprindere de o mica zapada. Michelin merg de rup in ambele cazuri.Ca nu arata asa sport chiar nu ma intereseaza pentru ca am un dci nu o masina sport.Tin si mai mult decat f1 . Banii sunt la tine , spor la cumparaturi wink.gif

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post 8 Jun 2011, 17:51
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@skorpio_bog: michelin ps3 wink.gif


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post 8 Jun 2011, 17:54
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cam scumpe biggrin.gif Am gasit F1 mai ieftine la andu de pe forum, 336 Ron, cica dot 2011, Germany, insa nu stiu cat de Germany sunt.

De pilot sport 3 ce parere ai?

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post 8 Jun 2011, 18:04
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pana acum foarte OK, le-am facut "rodajul" vreo aprox. 1000-1500 km, o sa incep "sa ma dau" la ele, deja temperaturile sunt propice pentru aderenta marita smile.gif

ca info, m-am incaltat cu contisportcontact 2 (asimetric) vara trecuta si goodyear ultragrip performance iarna trecuta (asimetric).


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post 8 Jun 2011, 18:25
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Daca nu e cu suparare...Pe cei 85 de cai ai mei GoodYear Eagle F1 se descurca de minune. Secretul e sa fie cald. Cand le-am montat, dimineata mai prindeam 3-4 grade si nu prea era ok.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 18:29
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deja sub 7-10 grade e rost pt cele de iarna. Peste 10 grade cum se comporta? Auzisem pe vw forum cum ca unii au avut probleme cu ele sub 15 grade...ceea ce nu prea e ok


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post 8 Jun 2011, 18:34
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QUOTE(skorpio_bog @ 8 Jun 2011, 18:29)
deja sub 7-10 grade e rost pt cele de iarna. Peste 10 grade cum se comporta? Auzisem pe vw forum cum ca unii au avut probleme cu ele sub 15 grade...ceea ce nu prea e ok
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Era fix perioada cand la ora 12 erau 20 de grade. Sunt multumit de cauciucuri ca si aderenta. Problema mea e talonul dar nu cred ca tu o sa ai problema asta. Nu am sesizat probleme decat la temperaturi unde, intr-adevar, era de cauciucuri de iarna. Eu am luat SH cauciucurile si apropo de cat tin nu prea pot sa iti spun nimic. Am mai observat o chestie..nu prea scartaie orice le-as face(probabil are legatura si cu puterea masinii). Dar nici cand plec tare de pe loc si clar patineaza, nu scartaie. Acum nu stiu ce importanta are chestia asta...poate tie iti spune ceva. De Toyo Proxes am auzit ca ar fi ok si alea....din ce-am auzit cele mai ok.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 19:45
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De ce nu incerci GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric? Decat cel normal, mai bine PS3. Aproape de performante si tine mult mai bine la km.

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post 8 Jun 2011, 20:31
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Nu imi place profilul la asymetric si costa si ceva mai mult parca.

De PS3 am auzit ceva lucruri bune si de michelin in general, ca de vreo 2 zile tot citesc reviewuri la anvelope. Insa in unele situatii am inteles ca sunt mai slabe decat precedentele PS2.

Ma intereseaza mai mult sa fie durabile ca material, decat km. Ca asa si NCT-urile actuale daca e sa ma iau dupa profil, mai duc minim 20k km pana sa devina slickuri, insa a imbatranit cauciucul din care sunt facute.

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post 8 Jun 2011, 21:00
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Cauciucul ala imbatranit ar putea sa-ti faca probleme la rulajul cu 240 la ora probabil, depinde de indicele tau.
Daca mergi mult prin oras, si mai rar in exterior cu viteze legale nu se va dezintegra. Eu n-am auzit nici un caz, si stiu atatia baieti care-si iau anvelope SH.
Acum ma gandesc ca al tau nu-i f batran, daca l-ai luat de nou.

Oricum, de-ar fi sa aleg din lista ta, as merge fara discutii pe michelin.
Pirelli nu te incanta? Eu am si-s foarte multumit.


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post 8 Jun 2011, 21:11
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In talon am pt rotile pe 16 indice H, insa masina a venit din fabrica cu anvelope cu indice V, iar noile anvelope vor avea tot V. Exceptie facand F1-urile care vad ca sunt numai cu W.



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post 8 Jun 2011, 21:16
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Nu iti plac VREDESTEIN Sportrac 3 ?


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S 180 km/h
T 190 km/h
U 200 km/h
H 210 km/h
V 240 km/h
W 270 km/h

Deci sfatul meu e sa ramai cu astea daca mai ai carne pe ele... nu mergi cu astfel de viteze, iar daca faci multi km in oras cu atat mai bine. Si nici nu mergi cu masina incarcata la limita tot timpul banuiesc, poate chiar niciodata. Dar daca ai bani si n-ai ce face cu ei, cumpara, iar pe astea vinde-le SH mai recuperezi niste bani.

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QUOTE(pit-bull @ 8 Jun 2011, 22:16)
Nu iti plac VREDESTEIN Sportrac 3 ?
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Ba da, imi plac mult si sportrac 3-urile, au un profil frumos, insa nu prea stiu cum sunt ca performante. Nu prea am vazut la nimeni. Am avut de iarna Snowtrac 3 de la Vredestein si au fost exceptionale, insa cele de vara nu stiu cum sunt. Ca pret am vazut ca cei de la Savhor care sunt importatori Vredestein au oferta 352 ron bucata, iar daca iei 4 bucati ai montaj si valve gratuit.

Eugen, stiu valorile pt indicii de viteza, insa in toamna voi pleca din tara pt o perioada destul de lunga si de aceea vroiam sa le schimb, sa am anvelope noi, mai ales ca destinatia mea este la ~ 2800 km distanta.



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Si o sa mergi la o vale maaaaaaaaaaaaaaare rau de tot? tongue.gif


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@skorpio: Atunci e altceva smile.gif


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post 9 Jun 2011, 09:25
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Am avut si eu GY Eagle F1, insa din punctul meu de vedere se uzeaza destul de rapid, mai ales pe flancuri ( la 25.000 km depasisem martorul de uzura ). Le-am schimbat cu Dunlop SP Sport Fast Response si sunt foooarte multumit de ele ( le am de vara trecuta - aprox. 15.000 km ). Daca ar fi sa le schimb acum cu alte cauciucuri, as incerca si Pirelli P7 Cinturato.


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post 9 Jun 2011, 09:34
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Singurul minus pe care l am observat la F1 este pe suprafata uda,si cand spun uda ma refer la balta! tongue.gif In momentul ala tind sa fie nesigure...in rest,aderenta foarte buna,zgomot de rulare foarte mic...cat despre uzura prematura,eu nu am observat asa ceva.E drept ca daca vad 3 'scarturi'pe an e sarbatoare...


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post 9 Jun 2011, 11:51
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Mai ales ca mergi la drum lung, recomand ceva PS3/ Asymmetric in loc de F1 in V. Se vor uza destul de mult la drum si fara motiv (mergi doar drept).

Am mers destul de mult cu PS3 si asymmetric si parca asymmetric sta putin mai bine dar PS3 iti inspira mai multa siguranta. Acum probabil depinde si de masina si de faptul ca PS3 erau pe 18 iar asymmetric pe 17... Ca si rezistenta la uzura PS3 sunt mai durabile totusi decat asymmetric.


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post 9 Jun 2011, 12:40
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alexxis2001ro exact asta am observat si eu la un megane din parcare de la serviciu, care avea pe rotile din fata F1-uri. Pe margini erau tocate, slickuri, iar in centru ramasesera V-urile, ceea ce nu prea mi-a placut.Si omul nu le are de mult timp puse.

gotty, asta e ceva nou, mersi de info. Nu prea am gasit pareri legate de acvaplanare la F1, decat ca pe ud sunt ok, insa e bine de stiut.

Oricum incep sa tind catre Michelin, ca prea le lauda toata lumea. Vredestein Sportrac 3 nimeni? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(skorpio_bog @ 9 Jun 2011, 13:40)
Oricum incep sa tind catre Michelin, ca prea le lauda toata lumea.
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post 9 Jun 2011, 15:46
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Ok, am mai gasit ceva oferte, iar lista din care trebuie sa aleg este urmatoarea:

Michelin PS3 - 389 Ron/buc -> 1556 Ron/setul la care trebuie sa mai platesc si montaj+echilibrat

Vredestein Sportrac 3 - 352 Ron/buc ->1408 Ron/setul cu montaj, echilibrat, presiune gratis

GY Eagle F1 384 Ron/buc -> 1536 Ron/setul cu montaj, echilibrat, presiune gratuit


Toate cele 3 modele sunt 205/55R16.

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Savhor nu aduc Ps3?


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ba da, dar pt 205/55R16 au numai cu indice de viteza W si costa 449 bucata...ceea ce mi se pare cam mult.


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