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post 6 Feb 2011, 19:41
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In alta ordine de idei, ce diferente sunt mai exact intre un sasiu CUP si unul sport obisnuit care se ofera pe RS? Ce presupune din punct de vedere tehnic si care sunt diferentele de performante? Avantaje, dezavantaje ale fiecarui tip? Just curious...

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post 6 Feb 2011, 20:06
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Discutiile astea despre mentalitati si posesorii VW vs. posesorii Reno nu prea isi au locul aici.

Cand iti cumperi un Megane RS, nu-l cumperi ca esti fan Reno, il cumperi ca vrei o masina mica, sportiva si la bani buni.

E adevarat, un Golf R cu DSG este incredibil, dar e foarte scump, parca vreo 35.000 euro, nu? Cred ca sari de 40.000 euro cu cateva optionale interesante.

E adevarat, optionalele de la VW si DSG fac ceva bani, si nu le gasesti la Reno, dar depinde si de buzunar. Eu parca n-as da atatia bani pe un Golf, adica la 40.000 deja putem vorbi de Evo, Impreza, etc.. si parca e altceva.

Cu alte cuvinte, ca de obicei, depinde de gusturi si buzunare. La 25.000 euro nu cred ca gasesti ceva mai bun decat un Megane RS cu performante similare. Si comparatiile cu SH-uri sunt inutile.


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post 6 Feb 2011, 20:19
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Gama RS de la Renault da lectii cam la intreaga concurenta (asta doar vazand emisiuni auto/citind articole despre teste; nu am unde sa fi testat pe propria piele), totul fiind la un pret avantajos pentru client. Atat sper : sa ramana exclusiv la benzina.

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post 6 Feb 2011, 21:33
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Chiar nu imi zice si mie nimeni de sasiul ala CUP? smile.gif

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post 6 Feb 2011, 21:56
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Daca vrei sa aflii discutii despre sasiuri CUP, fie te duci la Renault, dar mare scula nu alfii, de acolo, fie cauti un pasionat cu asa ceva in curte. Eu il am pe verisorul meu care are un 2.2 RS si este foarte multumit.

Sasiul CUP, are avantajele lui, dar daca tu nu te duci pe circuit sau in alte locuri speciale, unde sa scoti untul din masina, nu merita, dai niste bani in plus si pe deasupra iti zdruncina si pietrele de la rinichi.

Sasiul CUP imbunatateste manevrabilitatea, facand-o si mai manevrabila decat este (pentru mine si aia stock este aproape perfecta) si ii mai adauga si diferential auto blocant si etriere rosii la sistemul de franare.
Un asemenea Megane, daca imi amintesc bine, au avut la Cobalcescu pe Splai, culoare neagra, sper sa nu ma insel, dar era super faina, pacat ca nu se face drive-test-uri cu el, ca sunt dispus sa platesc pentru unul.

Era amuzant sa vad unul cu frana de parcare automata, dar nu se poate.

Chiar acum am configurat unul si cu toate chestiile pe el:

# Versiunea mea

* 23.600,00 €100.918,32 LEI2,0 Turbo 16V 250 CP

# Preferintele mele :

* nullMotorizari : Benzina

# Exterior

* 0,00 €0,00 LEIJaune Sport

# Interior

* 886,00 €3.788,71 LEITapiterie din piele deschisa / Ambianta de culoare inchisa

# Optiunile mele

* 729,00 €3.117,35 LEIPack Vizibilitate (faruri cu Xenon + Retrovizoare rabatabile electric + Oglinda retrovizoare electro
* 834,00 €3.566,35 LEISasiu CUP(implica Diferential mecanic)
* 313,00 €1.338,45 LEIDiferential mecanic
* 208,00 €889,45 LEIEtriere de frana rosii
* 156,00 €667,09 LEIRS Display 1
* 0,00 €0,00 LEIRadio CD MP3 Arkamys 4X30 W Bluetooth USB
* 52,00 €222,36 LEIBancheta spate fractionabila 1/3 - 2/3 cu cotiera spate
* 313,00 €1.338,45 LEIScaune fata cu incalzire si reglaj electric pentru sofer
* 313,00 €1.338,45 LEIScaune fata cu incalzire
* 44,00 €188,15 LEIPachet legislativ obligatoriu
* 0,00 €0,00 LEIAdagio 12 luni sau 100.000 Km

Total 27.656, ceea ce este super, chiar daca unii zic ca de banii aia iti iei Cupra R.

RS-urile M3 sunt rare, dar azi am zarit intr-o parcare un Clio RS, Jaune Sirius, numai culoarea aia costa cat un sfert dintr-un Logan chel smile.gif

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post 7 Feb 2011, 09:14
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diference megane cup si megane rs confort
discuri de frână cu fante
Suspenisa 10mm mai jos
Suspensia mai dura nu stiu exact cate procente cred ca 17& dar nu sunt sigur
diferențial mecanic (asta e cel mai important)

Masina sa mi pare destul de ok si pe caucuri de 19 si cu suspensia cup in comparatia cu altele care am condus

Octavia rs nu contaza benzina sau motorina nu e masina sport de loc

SUbaru impreza wrx (sti) arata naspa nauntru sa conduce foarte prost pe autostrada sa conduce foarte prost daca respectezi limitele legale.....dar in moment cant incep sa merg peste limita cu ia funcionaza foarte foarteee bine


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post 7 Feb 2011, 09:17
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Aici gasiti destule versus-uri ... ca sa nu mai faceti comparatii pe forum ... nu asta este rostul acestui topic ...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...+RS+versus&aq=f

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post 7 Feb 2011, 09:31
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Intrebare strict numai pt posesori .Cati km a avut la livrare?

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post 7 Feb 2011, 10:29
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QUOTE(A l e x @ 6 Feb 2011, 20:06)
Cand iti cumperi un Megane RS, nu-l cumperi ca esti fan Reno...
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Io-'s fan Stig. Se pune ? radmasa.gif tongue.gif radmasa.gif


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post 21 Feb 2011, 18:08
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Poate sa-mi spuna cineva ce inseamna optiunea de diferential 'mecanic' la m3rs?

22 Feb 2011, 16:43:
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post 22 Feb 2011, 18:50
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murfi - Diferential mecanic au toate masinile pentru ca altfel li s-ar invarti rotile motoare cu aceeasi viteza.
Probabil te referi la diferentialul mecanic cu alunecare limitata (L.S.D.)
Daca da, ai mai jos un citat din comunicatul oficial Renault:

Limited slip differential
The Cup chassis version of New Mégane R.S. is available with a mechanical limited slip differential which comprises a knurled helical gear, and satellite and sun gears with parallel axes. The limited slip function is obtained by the system's mechanical efficiency. When wheelspin occurs, the differential's internal architecture generates friction on the surfaces of the sun gears. This results in a proportion of engine
torque being transmitted to the wheel which benefits from the most grip.
The chief characteristic of this type of limited slip differential is the fact that the transfer rate is determined by the use of three friction rings (selected for their friction coefficient) which are located between the sun gears and differential casing. The transfer rate can be modified by using friction rings of different
coefficients.
Since the faces of the rings which intervene under acceleration are different to those which intervene under braking, it is possible to achieve differentiated transfer rates.
In the case of New Mégane R.S., the transfer rate is 35 per cent, while its TBR (Torque Bias Ratio: the nominal ratio between the torque of the wheel which benefits from the most grip and the wheel which benefits from the least grip) is 2.3:1.
New Mégane R.S.'s limited slip differential is supplied by GKN Driveline.


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post 23 Feb 2011, 10:13
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asa se cheama optiunea: 'diferential mecanic'
tocmai de aceea am intrebat ca nu intelegeam ce vrea sa spuna..smile.gif

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post 23 Feb 2011, 16:32
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Asta este...

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post 28 Feb 2011, 01:04
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QUOTE(murfi @ 23 Feb 2011, 10:13)
asa se cheama optiunea: 'diferential mecanic'

Unde ai găsit mai exact denumirea asta?


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post 28 Feb 2011, 10:46
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post 28 Feb 2011, 11:01
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Bănuiam eu că habarniștii ăștia de la reno au folosit denumirea asta. Diferențial mecanic, așa cum s-a zis mai sus, are orice mașină. Diferențial mecanic cu alunecare limitată vine cu șasiul CUP.

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http://whatcarawards.net-genie.co.uk/award...rt_250_cup.html

"Renault’s Mégane 250 Cup is the cream of the hot-hatch crop – again."

"The menacing Mégane will have you smiling before you’ve opened the door. Inside, it’s a classy customer thanks to the plush materials it inherits from the regular Mégane.

Hit the road and things get even better. Its turbocharged 2.0-litre engine produces a whopping 247bhp.

Acceleration is seriously rapid and, unlike many rivals, delivered smoothly. The front tyres simply dig in, firing the car to 62mph in 6.1sec.

On a winding road the Mégane 250 feels both dramatic and totally composed. It bristles with feel, balance and precision. You get plenty of equipment for your money too.

It’s What Car?’s Hot Hatch of the Year for the second year running."


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E normal sa fie asa... wub.gif

Stiti care-mi sunt parerile de rau legate de acesta masina, la aproape 3 luni de la cumparare?
Sunt unele grave, pentru care nu cred sa existe solutie.

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Faptul ca nu am destul timp sa-l conduc cat vreau.
Faptul ca trebuie sa cobor cand am ajuns undeva.
Faptul ca nu pot sa fac copilarii cum ar fi sa merg pana la Munchen doar ca sa-mi cumpar o bere sau pana la Napoli doar ca mananc o pizza. Si pe acelea le-as manca/bea foarte repede ca sa pot pleca din nou.



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daca chiar ai vrea sa faci toate astea eu zic ca se poate, totul e sa-ti faci ambitie si sa decolezi


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daca ar scoate bandourili alea stock ar arata si mai bine.


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in afara de jante care sunt coca style, arata bine masina.


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Legat de sasiul CUP, ce nu am inteles eu: Care e diferenta intre el si cel normal? E mai ranforsat? Cum?

Diferential? Se poate cumpara separat? De unde?

Masina de la corniche arata foarte bine!

@b76bgaarh: Daca ar scoate bandourile ar arata ca **** sincer! Daca vrei sa vezi cam cum, scot eu bandourile de pe fata de la mine si-ti fac poza din lateral ... ar ramane o muchie iesita in afara la usa, cu care ai da de toate gardurile sau masinile!

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Sasiul CUP este un sasiu mai rigid, optimizat pentru o utilizare sport, sasiul isi face simtita prezenta pe o pista de circuit, pe strada, in afara sa-ti zdruncine pietrele de la rinichi, nu aduce prea multe imbunatatiri la capitolul manevrabilitate, asta in Bucuresti, pe Transfagarasan este altceva smile.gif)


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cata masina aia are deja un prag larg. sunt 2 muchii f aproape una de cealalta, si arata ca un kit home made. la unu profesionist conteaza detaliile.


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Am vazut unu live pe DN1 in Otopeni saptaman trecuta -galben cu numere de BV. Masina arata uluitor si scoate niste sunete la fel de uluitoare cand este accelerata.

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