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bundy220
post 22 May 2009, 10:00
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Salutare tuturor!Vreau sa-mi schimb fisele,si m-am gandit sa intreb ,din experienta voastra ,cam care ar fi cele mai bune(pret/calitate)


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post 22 May 2009, 12:10
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Champion Triple Silicone. smile.gif
Din momentul in care le'am montat pe fostul R18, am uitat de fise 10ani de zile. wink.gif

LE: codul Champion de care trebuie sa intrebi este: LS-123 sau LS-149

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post 22 May 2009, 18:43
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Am vazut fise Bosch azi, la Real parca. 9,75 firul (ca la flori). Nu stiu daca sint universale. Nu scria nimic pe ele.

Strumfu, unde se gasesc ale tale ? Si daca sint ambele, care e de preferat ?


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post 22 May 2009, 19:00
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De ce vrei sa le schimbi? Sunt intrerupte?


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post 22 May 2009, 20:42
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La cine te referi, CJ ? La mine sau bundy ?


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post 22 May 2009, 21:14
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QUOTE(ricochet2 @ 22 May 2009, 19:43)
Strumfu, unde se gasesc ale tale ? Si daca sint ambele, care e de preferat ?
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Eu nu am fise, sunt bobine pe fiecare cilindru.
Champion ar trebui sa se gaseasca pe la magazinele de piese auto. Daca nu au acolo, pe comanda. smile.gif


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post 22 May 2009, 21:38
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Stai putin. Acele fise nu sint cablurile care vin montate pe bujii ? Eu nu am asa ceva ? Am 1.6 16V, motor K4M.

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post 22 May 2009, 22:27
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tu ai cate o bobina pe fiecare bujie, montata in capul bujiei. firele care vin acolo nu sunt HT..
fisele sunt pentru a cara HT (gen dacie)


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post 22 May 2009, 22:45
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Dar am si eu niste mate care intra in cilindri. Alea ce sint ?


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post 22 May 2009, 22:55
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Multam de recomandari! Inca mai studiez problema.Eu vreau sa le schimb,pentru ca am ceva suspiciuni,si mai ales ca ,daca le scot pe rand,una NUma curenteaza,restul curenteaza binisor.Mergand pe o logica simpla,ori toate ,ori nici una! smile.gif


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post 23 May 2009, 12:01
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La bundy ma refeream. Deci nu am nici eu fise? masina mea are aceeasi motorizare ca a lui Rico.


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post 23 May 2009, 13:09
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nu ai fise, nu in sensul traditional.
bobina la tine e in capul bujiei, iar la bobina vin dou fire de tensiune mica, de comanda.


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post 24 May 2009, 07:19
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Aha! Merci. Uite pe asta nu o stiam.


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post 24 May 2009, 10:22
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Si bobinele alea nu le schimbam preventiv ? Sau sint scumpe ?


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post 24 May 2009, 10:47
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Nu prea inteleg pe ce sistem functioneaza dar se pare ca sunt ceva chestii frantuzesti complicate cum deja ne-am obisnuit wink.gif


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post 24 May 2009, 20:43
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nu e nimic complicat.dacia 1300 avea o bobina de inductie, motorul nostru are 4.dacia 1300 avea fise de la distribuitor la bujii, la noi bobinele sunt montate in capul bujiei, deci nu mai exita fise. simplu ca bunza ziua.


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post 25 May 2009, 09:23
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QUOTE(ricochet2 @ 24 May 2009, 11:22)
Si bobinele alea nu le schimbam preventiv ? Sau sint scumpe ?
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Putem face si un post in plus, preventiv. E moka. smile.gif


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post 25 May 2009, 10:12
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Asta te arde pe tine ? Nr. de posturi din forum ? E limita ? Costa ? Nu tocmai ai facut si tu unul ?


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post 25 May 2009, 11:39
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Pai la ce intrebari pui si tu..
Eu zic sa schimbi masina preventiv, nu se stie niciodata. wink.gif


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post 25 May 2009, 14:06
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una bucata bobina ~ 150 ron. daca omu' isi permite...atunci sa fie preventiv wink.gif


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post 25 May 2009, 15:18
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Preventiv de 600 de lei.. costa precautia tongue.gif


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post 25 May 2009, 15:43
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QUOTE(pixule @ 24 May 2009, 20:43)
nu e nimic complicat.dacia 1300 avea o bobina de inductie, motorul nostru are 4.dacia 1300 avea fise de la distribuitor la bujii, la noi bobinele sunt montate in capul bujiei, deci nu mai exita fise. simplu ca bunza ziua.
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Si care e avantajul unui astfel de sistem?


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post 25 May 2009, 15:59
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OK, atunci nu schimb preventiv distributia. E lipit un abtibild cu 70 mii, merg pana la 130 mii.


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post 25 May 2009, 16:43
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sau 4 ani... ar fi recomandat. Eu cam asa am de gand, ca la mine are 20k km de cand a fost schimbata, dar are aproape 4 ani. Riscul cu cauciucul e prea mare.. asa ca o sa fac investitia biggrin.gif


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post 25 May 2009, 21:54
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avantajul sisitemului este ca nu exista pierderi de intensitate a curentului prin cablu, distribuitor si altele, deci scanteia este puternica si asigura o ardere buna.dar e mai scump.ca sa vezi diferenta de putere oferita de aprindere, studiaza sistemul twin spark de la alfa romeo- 2bujii pe cilindru, aprox 13-15 cp in plus fata de 1 bujie pe cilindru, dar un cost mai mare la achizitie.


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cam asa ceva pixule,doar ca pierderile sunt in tensiune nu in intensitate smile.gif

25 May 2009, 23:06:
cam asa ceva "pixule",doar ca pierderile sunt in tensiune nu in intensitate smile.gif
Despre problema mea,am ajuns la concluzia ca fisele o mai duc,bobinele insa,dau la masa amandoua sad.gif 340lei perechea!Mai incerc totusi o adaptare de la logan,pentru ca mi se par mai bine gandite,fara metal pe langa borna de inalta tensiune. Trebuie doar sa vad daca la logan merg tot in pereche(1-4si 2-3)
va mai tin la CURENT

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Nu e rau ce ai gandit tu acolo dar daca e sa le schimbi schimba-le pe toate.


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Johnny, tu ai doua bobine de inductie,sau e cu delco?
M-ar interesa un fenomen:daca scot o fisa din bobina,la una dintre iesirile de inalta,se observa scantei aiurea,intre borna si ce e pe langa,iar daca o scot pe cea de langa(aceiasi bobina) nu da scanteie aiurea,doar daca apropii fisa de borna da scanteie si e directionata exact spre fisa.Asta ma face sa cred ca e bobina dusa.Dar ce ma face sa ma indoiesc ,e faptul ca si la cealalta bobina se intampla la fel,si culmea tot la prima borna.Din acest motiv ,ma gandesc ca ar putea fi o chestie de functionare??!! blink.gif

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post 27 May 2009, 08:47
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eu am un rudiment de delcou care e in realitate un ruptor- distribuitor
si o singura bobina


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27 May 2009, 23:01:
Baieti,stiti cumva daca o sonda de oxigen amonte de la euro 2 poate fi inlocuita cu una de la euro 3? da aceleasi informatii?


27 May 2009, 23:03:
Si inca ceva:am probat azi o bobina de la logan si merge bine.Trebuie sa cumpar si niste fise,si apoi fac operatia finala.Daca e cineva interesat am sa pun niste poze

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