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VW 1.4-litri TSI - cel mai bun motor al anului 2009

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post 19 Jun 2009, 10:00
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Motorul 1.4 TSI de la VW a fost declarat cel mai bun motor al anului 2009.
Alte premii:
* Cel mai bun motor nou ala nului 2009: Porsche 3.8-litre
* Motorul cel mai ecologic: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI
* Motorul cel mai performant: Mercedes-AMG 62 (525 ch et 630 Nm)
* Cel mai bun motor sub 1 litru : Toyota 1 litru
* Cel mai bun motor intre 1 litru si 1.4 litri : Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI
* Cel mai bun motor intre 1.4 litri si 1.8 litri : BMW/PSA Peugeot Citroën 1,6 Turbo
* Cel mai bun motor intre 1.8 litri si 2 litri : Audi 2.0 TFSI
* Cel mai bun motor intre 2 litri si 2.5 litri : Mercedes 2,1 CDI
* Cel mai bun motor intre 2.5 litri si 3 litri : BMW 3.0 DI Twin-turbo
* Cel mai bun motor intre 3 litri si 4 litri : BMW 4.0 V8
* Cel mai bun motor de peste 4 litri : Mercedes-AMG 62



Premiul e acordat de 65 de jurnalisti din 32 de tari
A se observa ca toate sunt motoare germane (mai putin cel de 1 litru de la toyota)


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post 19 Jun 2009, 10:12
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Pai daca sunt cele mai bune!


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post 19 Jun 2009, 10:15
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Pai daca sunt cele mai bune!


Asta cam asa e!


cu toate astea...u se aude nimic de tehnologia FSI??


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post 19 Jun 2009, 10:17
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Cum se definește acest "bun" ?

Fiabil? biggrin.gif Economic? Silențios? Echilibrat?


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cel mai bun/ cp/cilindree 1.4/ 160 cp , e cel "biturbo" nu?, compresor mecanic,si turbina cu geometrie variabila..
ca fiabilitate nu cred ca sa luat in considerare
.ramane de vazut,..totusi .e cam stors la maxim. sa vedem cat o tine wink.gif ...

nu cred ca mai vedem golfuri cu sute de mii de km...


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post 19 Jun 2009, 10:21
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Nu vom transforma si acest topic intr-un versus, nu?!

Va rog sa va mentineti on topic!


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post 19 Jun 2009, 10:24
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1.4 tsi a fost lansat in 2005. Sunt 4 ani de atunci si eu n-am auzit de probleme la el wink.gif


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QUOTE(Ov @ 19 Jun 2009, 10:24)
1.4 tsi a fost lansat in 2005. Sunt 4 ani de atunci si eu n-am auzit de probleme la el wink.gif
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pt ca nu toata lumea are 16-20 de mii de euri sa isi ia golf..

durata de viata estimata undeva in juru ..a 250kkm si un pic peste,..insa anexele nu tin atat..si alea costa .. laugh.gif

si sunt mai multe planse de puteri in 2005 avea cam 140 cp...in 2009..l-au mai dopat putin laugh.gif

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fals. In 2005 a aparut ala de 170cp. Ulterior a aparut 140 si acum un an 122 wink.gif

o fi fost el scump la inceput, dar am inteles ca acum, in vremuri de criza, a scazut mult pretul wink.gif


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hm...frumos......

cum nici o handa... doar e vitec domne.... radmasa.gif


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2008 Winners
Best New Engine: BMW 2-litre Diesel Twin Turbo (123D)
Green Engine of the Year: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius)
Best Performance Engine: Porsche 3.6-litre Turbo (911 Turbo, 911 GT2)
Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-litre
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW-PSA 1.6-litre Turbo
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen/Audi 2-litre Turbo FSI
2-litre to 2.5-litre: Subaru 2.5-litre Turbo (Forester, Impreza, Legacy, Outback)
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (135, 335, X6)
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 4-litre V8 (M3)
Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
International Engine of the Year 2008: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (135, 335, X6)

2007 Winners
Best New Engine: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i)
Best Fuel Economy: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive
Best Performance Engine: BMW 5-litre V10
Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-litre
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW-PSA 1.6-litre Turbo (MINI Cooper S, Peugeot 207)
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen/Audi 2-litre Turbo FSI
2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325, 525, Z4, X3)
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i)
3-litre to 4-litre: Porsche 3.6-litre Turbo (911 Turbo)
Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
International Engine of the Year 2007: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i)

2006 Winners
Best New Engine: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
Best Fuel Economy: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive
Best Performance Engine: BMW 5-litre V10
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo
2-litre to 2.5-litre: Subaru 2.5-litre Turbo
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo Diesel
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW M 3.2-litre
Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10
International Engine of the Year 2006: BMW 5-litre V10

2005 Winners
Best New Engine: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
Best Fuel Economy: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius)
Best Performance Engine: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Fiat-GM 1.3-litre Diesel
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius)
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo (Golf GTi, Audi A3, A4)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: Honda 2.2-litre Diesel (Accord, CR-V, FR-V)
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin-Turbo Diesel (535d)
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
International Engine of the Year 2005: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)

2004 Winners
Best New Engine: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive
Best Fuel Economy: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive
Best Performance Engine: Mercedes-AMG 65 (S65, CL65)
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325i, X3, 525i Z4)
2.5-litre to 3-litre: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
Above 4-litre: Volkswagen 5-litre V10 TDi (Touareg, Phaeton)
International Engine of the Year 2004: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive

2003 Winners
Best New Engine: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
Best Performance Engine: Mercedes-AMG 55 (CL55, E55, S55, SL55)
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: MINI Supercharged 1.6-litre (Cooper S)
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325i, 525i, Z4)
2.5-litre to 3-litre: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
Above 4-litre: Volkswagen 5-litre V10 TDi (Touareg, Phaeton)
International Engine of the Year 2003: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)

2002 Winners
Best New Engine: BMW 4.4-litre Valvetronic
Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1-litre IMA
Best Concept: GM AUTOnomy
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota 1.8-litre VVTL-i 190
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: PSA Peugeot-Citroën 2.2-litre HDi
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre
Above 4-litre: BMW 4.4-litre Valvetronic
International Engine of the Year 2002: BMW 4.4-litre Valvetronic

2001 Winners
Best New Engine: BMW 3.2-litre
Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1-litre IMA
Best Concept: Saab SVC
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen Group 1.4-litre TDi
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW 1.8-litre Valvetronic
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: PSA Peugeot-Citroën 2.2-litre HDi
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre
Above 4-litre: Ferrari 5.5-litre
International Engine of the Year 2001: BMW 3.2-litre

2000 Winners
Best Eco-friendly: Toyota Hybrid Prius
Best Fuel Economy: Honda Hybrid 1-litre Insight
Best Concept: DaimlerChrysler Necar 4
Sub 1-litre: Honda Hybrid 1-litre Insight
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Toyota 1.3-litre VVTi
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Honda 1.8-litre (Accord)
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: Alfa Romeo 2.5-litre V6
2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre TDi
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 4-litre V8 TDi
Above 4-litre: Ferrari 5.5-litre V12
International Engine of the Year 2000: Honda Hybrid 1-litre Insight

1999 Winners
Best Eco-friendly: Toyota Prius Hybrid
Best Fuel Economy: Volkswagen 1.2-liter TDi
Best Concept: DaimlerChrysler Necar 4
Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-liter
1-liter to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.2-liter TDi
1.4-liter to 1.8-litre: Toyota Prius Hybrid
1.8-liter to 2-litre: Volkswagen 1.9-liter 110PS TDi
2-liter to 2.5-litre: Audi 2.5-liter V6 TDi
2.5-liter to 3-litre: BMW 3-liter TDi
3-liter to 4-litre: BMW 4-liter V8 TDi
Above 4-litres: BMW 5.34-liter V12
International Engine of the Year 1999: Toyota Yaris 1-liter


19 Jun 2009, 12:09:
Eco-friendly si Fuel Economy nu se mai poarta!

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post 19 Jun 2009, 11:16
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ce va face sa credeti ca nu e fiabil? ca are o putere mare din cilindree mica? injectia directa face toata treaba, se pot folosi rapoarte de compresie mari chiar daca e turbo (are 10:1 parca sau ceva de genul) fara sa apara detonatii
nu vad de ce nu ar fi la fel de fiabil ca orice alt motor turbo de aceeasi putere



ai ma chiar niciun motor honda? plange.gif vtec in sus vtec in jos..

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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 19 Jun 2009, 12:08)
Eco-friendly si Fuel Economy nu se mai poarta!
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Anul asta se pare ca s-a purtat icon_mrgreen.gif
QUOTE(klaus @ 19 Jun 2009, 11:00)
    * Motorul cel mai ecologic: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI


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post 19 Jun 2009, 11:36
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QUOTE(Ov @ 19 Jun 2009, 12:17)
Anul asta se pare ca s-a purtat  icon_mrgreen.gif
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Ba chiar as observa ca a "luat fata" unor motoare hibride de la Toyota sau Honda.


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QUOTE(Ov @ 19 Jun 2009, 12:17)
Anul asta se pare ca s-a purtat  icon_mrgreen.gif
Deci abia astept sa ma car diseara din Bucuresti. Ma duc in salbaticie sa stau la cort sa uit de tot. Am fost destul de aiurit pe forum saptamana asta, nici sa citesc nu sunt in stare, desi nu prea am muncit deloc la servici. Trebuie sa ma relaxez!

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hai mai klaus...care motoare frate...

rasnitele alea de 1,3 care daca te dai la ele si mergi pe autostrada consuma de 2 ori cat un motor normal...

asta cu hybrid-eco frindly e marketing... o masina de asta gen honda/toyota consuma o gramada de resurse a fost o prezentare a procesului de fabricatie la prius si ziceau ca masina asta(componentele ei fac inconjurul globului de vreo 3 ori) costa de fapt cu mult mai multa ecologie decat orice masina normala cu euro 5...etcetcetc....


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În fine, revenind on topic, și acest concurs mi se pare foarte neprofesionist. Pentru că de la an la an nu sunt schimbări la motoare dar căștigătorul e altul. La marele premiu, concurenții au fost aceeași și anul trecut și anul acesta, dar căștigătorii diferiți.

Și la categoria green a fost aceeași situație. Deci cu ce a devenit mai bun 1,4 TSI de anul acesta comparativ cu cel de anul trecut, de acum a ieșit pe primul loc?



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ca probabil de anul trecut pana anul acesta tehnologia de "35" de la bmw s`a schimbat? iar de fiabilitate stiu cei de la vw ce stiu probabil de aceea si are acest motor cutie in 7 rapoarte.


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