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alexumf
post 9 Jan 2009, 23:47
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Domnilor lamuriti-ma va rog in urmatoarea problema: Renault-ul si-a numit vreodata motoarele diesel "TDI"? Stiu de dci si dti dar TDI?
Nu este simpla curiozitate, ci incerc sa gasesc niste repere pt un motor necunoscut...poveste lunga...
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post 10 Jan 2009, 00:06
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post 10 Jan 2009, 00:32
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am mers cu un 1.9 dti pe megane I, e ceva mai galagios decat un dci obisnuit, de DT si D nu stiu decat ca au fost inlocuite succesiv pana s-a ajuns la dci-ul de azi ...tdi in 2008-09 - ma rog poti vinde chiar orice daca se gasesc cumparatori, nu?


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post 10 Jan 2009, 08:16
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Renault nu a comercializat niciodata motoare Diesel cu acronimul TDI.

Ca informatie suplimentara, principalele tipuri de motaoare Diesel auto ce se comercializeaza in prezent ar fi:

TDi = Turbo Diesel direct Injection - Groupe VW (Audi, Seat, Skoda, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini si normal Volkswagen);

HDi = High Pressure Diesel direct Injection; motor patentat de Groupe PSA (Peugeot Citroen Group);

TDCi = turbo-diesel commonrail injection (Ford)

CRDI = commonrail Diesel injection (Hyunday)

Alti constructori de automobile au denumiri diferite pentru motoarele lor Diesel common rail. Spre exemplu: CDI la Daimler Chrysler, JTD la grupul Fiat, dCi la Renault, CDTi la Opel, DI-D la Mitsubishi.

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post 10 Jan 2009, 12:53
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Va multumesc tuturor inca o data! Asa ma gandeam si eu dar vroiam sa fiu sigur blush.gif
Ca idee era vorba de un scenic din 1991 si anumite repere nu existau pt variantele dci sau dti asa ca m-am gandit la posibilitatea existentei TDI pe vremea aia...
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post 10 Jan 2009, 13:02
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Scenic nu se fabrica in 1991.

QUOTE(mircea_aq @ 10 Jan 2009, 00:32)
am mers cu un 1.9 dti pe megane I, e ceva mai galagios decat un dci obisnuit, de DT si D nu stiu decat ca au fost inlocuite succesiv pana s-a ajuns la dci-ul de azi ...tdi in 2008-09 - ma rog poti vinde chiar orice daca se gasesc cumparatori, nu?
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MAC-urile Renault Common RAil sunt dCi; dTi sau dT nu au injectie directa -> mult mai zgomotoase.


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post 10 Jan 2009, 15:14
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la Fiat/Alfa
JTD vine de la uniJet Turbo Diesel
mJTD de la Multijet Turbo Diesel


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post 10 Jan 2009, 16:38
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dti are injectie directa cu pompa rotativa distribuitoare. dT au camera de precombustie.

Uite si o chiuluasa de dti
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/1-9-RENAULT-DTI-CYL...bayphotohosting

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post 10 Jan 2009, 18:41
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QUOTE(tiberiu.anghel @ 10 Jan 2009, 13:02)
Scenic nu se fabrica in 1991.
MAC-urile Renault Common RAil sunt dCi; dTi sau dT nu au injectie directa -> mult mai zgomotoase.
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Toate cele noi au injectie directa... nu prea se folosesc la masini motoare cu injectie indirecta.
In special cele cu camera Ricardo erau folosite. Oricum sunt mai putin zgomotoase decat cele cu injectie directa, dar au un randament mai scazut.

Deci nu confunda tipul camerei( direct in camera de ardere, sau indirect, intr-o camera separata) cu tipul instalatiei de injectie(common rail, pompa distribuitor, pompa injector).

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post 10 Jan 2009, 20:33
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Corect!

Ma gandeam la injectia in camera separata (in chiulasa).


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post 21 Jan 2009, 16:43
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Asta era pe un site auto SH....pesemne ca posesorul a gresit lamentabil

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post 21 Jan 2009, 16:53
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1.9 a ramas TDI în memoria românului din cauza succesului extraordinar pe care la avut pe modelele vw....cand spuneai 1.9 spuneai passat (albastru tongue.gif ) ,golf...a fost un trend la noi si încă mai este dar mai putin....aveai 1.9 TDI dar mai conta si care dintre litere sunt inrosite.. tongue.gif Sunt multi care habar nu au de motoare..aud dci sau cdti si gata...sunt tdi...


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post 21 Jan 2009, 18:14
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Sunt greseli destul de mari din punct de vedere al cunoscatorilor de masini...pentru cei care habar nu au ce e aia TDI,Dci,CdTi etc. se mananca la fel


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post 22 Jan 2009, 00:28
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Fiecare constructor vrea sa fie mai cu motz fata de ceilalti si scot tot felul de nume ametitoare,tdi,dci,tdci,hdi,jtd,crdi la fel ca si esp,dsc si multe altele.Diferenta esentiala este ca motoarele common rail sunt TDI sau mai bine spus functioneaza pe acest principiu,dar nu si invers deoarece TDI-urile sunt motoare de generatie veche si aici nu vorbim de faptul ca sunt produse de VW,FORD sau RENAULT.Pur si simplu sunt motoare vechi.
Cele de generatie noua sunt toate common rail deoarece sunt mai eficiente si mai silentioase,dar ce mai conteaza in final...muti habar nu au ce motoare au sub capota popa.gif

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post 3 Feb 2009, 01:38
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MPI ..... radeti voi ce radeti tot taranul zice motor pe injectie cand de fapt e Multi punct injection excl.gif


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post 3 Feb 2009, 01:56
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Pai si ? Tot injectie e... ca e mono sau e multi...


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