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george_C
post 20 Aug 2008, 13:03
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Buna ziua!

Are cineva graficul cuplu putere la Symbol 1,4 75 CP 8V ?

Acest grafic descrie tehnic comportamentul motorului si poti face comparatie cu alte automobile.

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post 20 Aug 2008, 17:40
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pentru k7j adica 1.4 8V smile.gif

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post 21 Aug 2008, 07:31
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pentru 1.4 16V are cineva?


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post 21 Aug 2008, 07:36
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Deci cuplul maxim este la 3000rpm, nu la 4250 rpm cum apare pe site-ul renault romania. Mi se parea mie cam suspect ce-am vazut pe-acolo.


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post 21 Aug 2008, 07:48
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poate gaseste careva si ptr dci un grafic. ptr toate dci-urile (65, 70, 80, 85 cp si care-or mai fi).


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post 21 Aug 2008, 07:59
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Pentru 1.4 16v:
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post 21 Aug 2008, 09:12
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@al3:
Graficul cuplu si putere functie de turatie pe care l-ai postat este al motorului de la Logan (motor K7J 710, cuplu maxim 112 Nm la 3000 rot/minut).
La Symbol 1.4 8V este motorul K7J 700 Euro 4, cu cuplul maxim 114 Nm la 4250 rot/minut. Am cautat mult pe internet graficul de cuplu al motorului K7J 710, dar nu l-am gasit (nici la Clio, nici la Thalia, nici la Symbol) - am mai postat acest lucru pe forum.


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post 21 Aug 2008, 10:07
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eu acest grafic l-am luat de pe forum. dar cred ca si la 1.4 8V de pe clio e cam acelasi grafic rolleyes.gif


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post 21 Aug 2008, 10:24
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1250rpm diferenta la punctul de cuplu maxim nu-i chiar acelasi.


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post 21 Aug 2008, 10:50
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daca te uiti la 1,4 8V la scaderea cuplului cu cresterea turatiei (la turatii mari) ar trebui sa te puna pe ganduri, aia inseamna ca la turatii mari nu prea ai zvâc!

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post 21 Aug 2008, 11:19
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Tot pe forum gasita mai cu vreun an in urma.

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post 21 Aug 2008, 11:36
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post 21 Aug 2008, 11:53
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multumesc

inteleg de aici ca am consum optim la a 5-a in 2000 de ture
si putere maxima pe la 3700 ture

si ca atunci cand schimb in sus tre sa cad cam pe 2000 ca sa simta bine si zburde nestingherita

corect?

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post 21 Aug 2008, 11:59
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Nu zice nimeni ca tre sa cazi pe cuplu maxim cand schimbi in treapta superioara.
Pai daca e asa cum se zice pe-aici ca la 1.4 8v ai cuplu maxim la 4250rpm, inseamna ca cei care au o astfel de motorizare ar trebui sa schimbe numai pe la 5000rpm tongue.gif


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post 21 Aug 2008, 12:04
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si ala micu

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post 21 Aug 2008, 12:50
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@cisolro: putere maxima ai la turatie aproape de limita maxima, (creste direct prop cu momentul si turata) sunt mai multe filosofii, se schimba la moment max pe drum drept si mai mult de turatia de moment max in rampa, a se vedea cartea lui T. Canta-Conducerea automobilelor Oltcit Ed Sport Turism (anul l-am uitat 1987?) capitolul despre dinamica automobilului e explicat bine principiul---si nu se refera doar la Oltcit:)


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post 21 Aug 2008, 14:31
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cuplul maxim vad ca e la 3000, unde am constatat ca se simte si voinicul meu bine smile.gif


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post 21 Aug 2008, 15:30
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O nedumerire legata de turatie .... se schimba sunetul motorului de la 2500 in sus ... uneori merg cu ea la 2400 , fiindca se aude cam forjat motorul la 2500
Intrebarea mea e , ce e cu acea schimbare de sunet ?


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post 21 Aug 2008, 15:33
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Nu stiu,dar si eu fix la 2500 aud ca se infoaie motorul mai tare ..nu i-am acordat importanta..


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post 21 Aug 2008, 18:20
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Graficul cuplului din harta pusa de al3 nu este al motorului de pe symbol!!!
Sunt curios asupra sursei de informare.

1.2 8v: 43kw/5250rpm si 93Nm/2500rpm
1.2 16v: 55kw/5500rpm si 105Nm/3500rpm
1.4 8v: 55kw/5500rpm si 114Nm/4250rpm
1.4 16v: 72kw/6000rpm si 127Nm/3750rpm
1.6 16v: 79kw/5750rpm si 148Nm/3750rpm
dCi-urile (65 82 100) au toate puterea la 4000rpm si cuplu 160Nm/2000, 185Nm/2000 si 200Nm/1.900rpm.

Si cateva comparatii:
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post 21 Aug 2008, 19:16
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Un site cu grafice cuplu/putere, comunicate de producator/"reale" aici pentru mai multe marci pentru viitoare nedumeriri.

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post 22 Aug 2008, 08:45
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@hellcat:
ceea ce i-am spus si eu lui al3 in postarea #7...
Multumiri lui MuciX; site-ul respectiv este f. bun.


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post 22 Aug 2008, 09:35
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Multumiri deasemeni lui @hellcat !!!


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post 22 Aug 2008, 17:13
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ce ciudat oscileaza cuplul pt 1.4 8V in graficul pus de hellcat...


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post 22 Aug 2008, 18:42
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Da , e identic si pe RRI semnalat de @mucix si nu mi se pare o scadere prea semnificativa.

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pentru un 1.9 dci de 75 kw are careva? ca nu gasesc nicaieri un grafic


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