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Pentru cei cu motor 1.8 16V (F4P), Rog poza rola intinzatoare curea accesorii

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post 12 Feb 2009, 23:31
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rolele intinzatoare. de la ele vine "muzica"


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maine am programare la mach1. mi'au spus niste scoruri la role de m'am speriat. maxim 300lei bucata.. wacko.gif wacko.gif
daca e prea prea o sa le iau de la autokarma si ma intorc la ei.. wish me luck.. ph34r.gif


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post 17 Mar 2009, 22:49
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pai... mare noroc...


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post 18 Mar 2009, 15:01
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Am un sfat pentru toti posesorii de lagune!
Nu va mai apucati sa schimbati doar ROLA! De ce?: in primul rand costa 120Ron
Daca ai problema la rola se datoareaza in mare parte din cazuri strict intinzatorului!
un intinzator original costa 500 ron dar se gasesc productie ungureasca sub licenta de Renault piesa completa (intinzator+rola) cu 180 RON
Nu cautati in dezmembrari ca e posibil sa le luati mai proaste decat a voastra !
Testarea rolei se face prin deschiderea mai multor consumatori(AC pe maxim de ventilatie, dez luneta, faruri ) si daca va scartaie cureaua in momentu in care accelerati e calr ca trebuie schimbat intinzatorul!
decat second original mai bine nou neoriginal si asta vo zic din proprie experienta!

18 Mar 2009, 15:14:
cand mi-a pus cureaua ecanicul a zis totusi sa lase primul canal liber si sa-l ocupe pe ultimul.....adica fuliile vin cu 6 santuri si cureaua pe 5
In loc sa monteze pe 1.2.3.4.5. a montat pe 2-6
E posibil sa scartaie din aceasta cauza? Totusi m-am uitat la curea si nu e uzata pe nici o parte!
Daca m-ar putea ajuta cineva....... worship.gif rugaciune.gif cheers.gif kiss.gif

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post 18 Mar 2009, 16:46
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@GabySv nu stiu daca scartaie din cauza asta da stiu un lucru cum trebuie pusa cureaua de accesorii si nu o zic eu aiurea zic aia de la reno

18 Mar 2009, 16:48:
am avut si curea cu 6 striatii care ocupau intreaga rola si imi freca intro carcasa asta inainte sa ma documentez

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post 18 Mar 2009, 17:55
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Nu inteleg de ce toata lumea prefera cureaua cu 5 striatii in loc de 6.
in primul rand rezista mai mult si nici nu afecteaza fuliile, datorita unei distributii mai bune a sarcinilor pe respectivele fulii.


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Pentru ca una dintre role nu are decat 5 piste? smile.gif


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post 18 Mar 2009, 18:06
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Adica e facatura.
nu exista asa ceva. Ori au toate fuliile 5 piste, ori 6 piste.


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Daca exista poza de mai sus in documentatia reno, fara indoiala nu e facatura smile.gif Din motive cunoscute numai de reno - economice probabil - a ales sa foloseasca aceasta solutie din fabrica...


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post 18 Mar 2009, 18:11
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Din cate motoare F4R am vazut, nu tin minte unul care sa aiba o fulie cu 5 piste


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post 18 Mar 2009, 18:36
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Fisshu mersi de poze! La tine ramane liber ultimul sant, pe cand la mine ala este ocupat si este liber primul din exterior!
M-am uitat cu atentie si nu pare sa se atinga de nimic iar scartaiala o face doar cand am mai multi consumatori deschisi!


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post 18 Mar 2009, 18:43
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Ca sa fim lamuriti o data pentru totdeauna.
solutia montarii curelelor cu 5 piste a aparut in urma unei greseli de diagnoza.
Ceea ce cam faulteaza intreg fundamentul solutiei.


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post 18 Mar 2009, 19:24
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Imi place cum le scoate johnny: "greseala de diagnoza".. Poti fi mai explicit?

Probabil Renault a concluzionat ca o curea cu 6 striatii nu are rost, marind inutil frecarile. Incearca tu sa gasesti pentru Renault o curea de 1750mm cu 6 striatii. Nu prea o sa gasesti.

In alta ordine de idei, am rezolvat problema care a generat acest topic.
Revin cu detalii, am pus acumulatorii la incarcat. wink.gif


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post 18 Mar 2009, 20:13
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de atins mie i-mi atingea in zona incercuita ,de carcasa de deasupra ,chestia curele de 5 pe foli de 6 nu gasesc alta explicatie decat ca poate au conceput ceva gresit la motor si si-au dat seama de greseala cand era prea tarziu si le freca si lor cureaua de 6 si ca sa rezolve problema ieftin au hotarat sa puna curea de 5 e doar o parere nu ca asa s-ar fi intamplat nedumerire.gif
apropo modelu de motor din imagine este pentru F4P si F4R la celelalte modele de motor nu stiu ce fel de curea trebuie

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post 18 Mar 2009, 20:57
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QUOTE(strumfuadi @ 18 Mar 2009, 19:24)
In alta ordine de idei, am rezolvat problema care a generat acest topic.
Revin cu detalii, am pus acumulatorii la incarcat. wink.gif
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Asaa.. deci treaba statea in felul urmator: am inlocuit la Mach1, cu piese de origine, rola de ghidaj, rola tensoare cu tot cu intinzator si cureaua. Nu mi'a venit sa cred ce preturi (TVA inclus) mi'au dat la piese de origine:

Rola de ghidaj: 200lei
Intinzator + rola: 277lei
Curea: 50lei

Pai la Autokarma intinzatorul original Renault era vreo 620lei!!!

De ce mergea cureaua in halul ala?
Pai... rola de ghidaj a capatat santuri de la curea din cauza uzurii, iar rulmentul zangane ceva de speriat. Practic rola asta genera toata tarasenia. Intinzatorul era relativ ok, desi si rola tensoare incepuse sa aiba un joc.

Poze cu piesele care au fost schimbate, alaturi de codurile pieselor de origine:
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de aia e strumpf vesel...ca si-a reparat odorul...


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acuma tace strumpful ca e gaurit la buzunare.


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Acum Strumfu colinda drumurile patriei pe motor, cum spuneam, cu pletele in vant, ca Lorenzo Lamas.


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QUOTE(maister_dm @ 13 May 2009, 14:47)
si la manopera cat te-au taxat?
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ma uit diseara pe factura si iti spun. cam 4-500lei, daca nu ma insel, insa s'a schimbat si filtrul de polen, pe langa cureaua+role.
oricum, daca ai piesele si cateva scule, treaba e simpla.

QUOTE(Johnny78 @ 13 May 2009, 15:13)
acuma tace strumpful ca e gaurit la buzunare.
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un fleac, m'au ciuruit..

QUOTE(ricochet2 @ 13 May 2009, 18:36)
Acum Strumfu colinda drumurile patriei pe motor, cum spuneam, cu pletele in vant, ca Lorenzo Lamas.
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fara casca e legal doar la americanii aia retarzi. cica e impotriva libertatii personale sa ii impui omului sa puna casca in cap ca sa se protejeze, auzi..


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Vreau sa fiu si eu un american retard (sau un american idiot, cum ar spune Green Day). Si asa ma enerveaza centura de siguranta.


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post 14 May 2009, 15:48
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Daca te mai chinui nitel, poate reusesti. La dimensiuni, ma refer.. dry.gif

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QUOTE(maister_dm @ 13 May 2009, 14:47)
si la manopera cat te-au taxat?
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QUOTE(strumfuadi @ 14 May 2009, 14:12)
ma uit diseara pe factura si iti spun. cam 4-500lei, daca nu ma insel, insa s'a schimbat si filtrul de polen, pe langa cureaua+role.


total manopera = 286 lei cu tva cu tot.
asta pentru schimb curea accesorii + role, schimb ulei + FU si schimb filru polen.
rezonabil..

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Corect zis rezonabil. Merci de info.

Btw, pentru schimbare distributie, care ar fi scoru ?


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Azi am sunat la Mach1 si mi-am facut rezervare pentru
KIT intinzator : Intinzator +rola+rola de ghidaj+ curea (AC manual)=360RON
E super ieftin daca tinem cont de preturile practicate de magazinele de profil
EX: cu discount de 10% la un magazin din suceava mi-a cerut 620 RON doar pe intinzator+rola iar pe autokarma cred ca stiti pretul smile.gif) 847RON-uleti ohmy.gif
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Mi-au venit piesele dar nu au costat 360 RON ci 352Ron tot de la Mach1!
Ciudat e ca pe cutie scrie "MADE IN FRANCE" iar pe intinzator scrie Germany si pe rola de ghidaj KOYO japan
Presupun ca firmele respective le produce sub licenta de renault ca piesa de origine!
In fine, le-am schimbat si am scapat de orice sunet sau scartaiala!

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buni baietii de la Mach...
sunt din cei din vechea garda care inca mai stiu meserie...


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E tot in zona aia, desi nu e acolo.

Cine imi poate explica ce e cu jegul asta ?
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Aparent ceva a facut bum, de a sarit pana pe capota... dar ce anume?


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Din cate se pare ala e ulei pe capota. Posibil sa curga pe rola si de acolo sa fie aruncat pe capota.
Am observat si la mine ulei langa rola, dar pe capota nu.biggrin.gif


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