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nicu78
post 9 Mar 2009, 13:11
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STIE CINEVA DIN CE CAUZA SCOATE MULT FUM CAND PORNESC MOTORUL SI E RECE???????????????????????????????


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post 10 Mar 2009, 20:41
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post 13 Mar 2009, 15:07
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Ce culoare e fumul? alb, negru, albastru?


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post 14 Mar 2009, 14:43
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E FUM ALB SI TINE CAM 10 SECUNDE DUPA CARE REVINE LA NORMAL


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post 14 Mar 2009, 14:59
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Apa din vasul de expansiune "dispare" ?

alb - lichid de racire
begru - consum mare motorina
albastru - ulei


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post 17 Mar 2009, 00:07
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Cam asa zic si eu ca si vepman_ro, poate fi ceva cu etanseitatea motorului, garnitura de chiulasa, dar trebuie vazut daca nivelul antigelului se modifica, daca temperatura motorului nu e stabila, etc.


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post 17 Mar 2009, 13:23
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Daca nu dispare antigelul, este perfect normal, pana se incalzeste motorul, mai ales daca afara e frig, este condens.


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post 20 Mar 2009, 18:34
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asa e, depinde ce intelege fiecare prin ''mult fum''


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post 23 Mar 2009, 19:29
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Imi cer scuze m-am uitat mai atent si e albastru,deci e de la ulei nu?
Daca e de la ulei de ce iasa numai la pornire?


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post 5 Apr 2009, 14:46
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uleiul se "subtiaza" ,daca ma pot exprima asa, in timpul mersului iar atunci cand opresti motorul ramane o cantitate mai mare de ulei pe camasile cilindrilor(segmentii nu mai rad suficient de bine camasile).
observi fum albastru doar la pornire initial urmand ca in timp sa apara si in mers normal.
In alta ordine de idei sa stii ca si dupa ce tie ti se pare ca nu mai scoate tot scoate dar mai putin si in prima faza asa se intampla , devine insesizabil. daca o obosesti la un drum mai lung si te uiti cu atentie la esapament o sa vezi nuanta de fum gri-albastrui, iar daca toate aste se simt in lipsa de putere si pornire mai greoaie la cald atunci verdictul este lipsa compresie=>inlocuire segmenti (segmentare in limbaj popular)


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post 6 Apr 2009, 14:25
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Sau semeringuri coada supapa.


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post 27 Apr 2009, 11:16
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Cred si eu ca este de la ulei . Motorul are 200.000 de kilometri "teoretic" cal-am cumparat de curand si am inteles ca ar trebui sa mearga cam pana pe la 400 de mii fara segmentare.
Din pacate consuma foarte mult ulei si implicit si benzina.Dupa parerea voastra ce ar trebui sa fac? Si cam la ce pret se ridica o segmentare?


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post 27 Apr 2009, 12:22
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Ca sa fii sigur daca necesita o segmentare , mergi la un service si masoara-i Compresia.
Nu este o regula ca motorul sa mearga 400.000km fara segmentare . Depinde si de stilul de mers,de conditiile de mers ale motorului , de tipul de ulei , carburant ce s-a folosit si tot asa.

Nu mai stiu la compresie trebuia sa ai 9,5 parca ..si nu o abatere mai mare de 1 intre pistoane . Dar vb din aducere aminte s-ar putea sa ma insel . La motoarele 16V compresia ar trebui sa fie 11?

Stie cineva valorile la compresie, pe dinafara ?
sau incep sa "SAP"?


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post 27 Apr 2009, 12:36
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La 16V trebuie sa fie 13bari.


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post 29 Apr 2009, 19:30
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Am inteles ca,compresia trebuie sa se incadreze in anumite valori,ceea maxima cu care iese din fabrica si ceea minima cand este recomandata segmentarea. Stie cineva aceste valori?????pentru 1,7 benzina???????


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post 29 Apr 2009, 21:21
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uite o poza cu valori la motoarele 1721 F3Nxxx

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post 29 Apr 2009, 21:51
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Vepman, raportul de compresie e una, presiunea din camera de ardere e cu totul altceva smile.gif


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post 30 Apr 2009, 10:56
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In principiu trebuie sa fie cu 2 max 3 bari peste raport compresie.


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post 5 May 2009, 20:18
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de ce cand o turez mai tare cade in nas apoi isi revine
trebuie sa o iau ca pe dizel


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post 6 May 2009, 15:41
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monopunct sau multipunct? Posibil injectrul daca este monopunct.


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post 6 May 2009, 17:42
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Schimba filtrul de benzina.


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post 9 May 2009, 18:12
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sau filtru de aer!


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post 18 Jul 2009, 22:21
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Are cineva din zona cluj un stator de electromotor?
Sau un electromotor defect dar sa aiba statorul bun?Mie mi-au cazut doi magneti de pe stator in rest totul e ok .Merge si numai cu doi intrebarea e pentru cat timp.As cumpara dse la dezmembrari dar sotia trebuie sa nasca in 2-3 saptamani si toti banii ii tin pentru marele eveniment.


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post 18 Jul 2009, 22:40
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de ce cand o turez mai tare cade in nas apoi isi revine
trebuie sa o iau ca pe dizel

eu zic sa verifici, de curiozitate, si electrovana de purjare.
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