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post 9 Sep 2008, 14:46
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Prea scumpa, iar pe segmentul ei de piata e pe locul 3-4


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QUOTE(paul_s @ 9 Sep 2008, 14:14)
Adica doar pt designul exterior ( care oricum e subiectiv ) nici un om normal nu mai are voie sa isi cumpere l3?
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am spus eu cumva sa nu-si cumpere cineva laguna 3 ?nu cred ca ai citit exact ce am scris.fiecare este liber sa-si ia orice marca si orice tip de masina vrea.eu ma refeream doar la design exterior unde c5 este peste l3 ,la interior mi se pare mult mai reusita laguna 3,ca si motoare sau tehnica nu mai zic nimic ca iar sariti la gatul meu.raman doar la design exterior.atat.


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post 9 Sep 2008, 14:49
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QUOTE(Cypher4laguna @ 9 Sep 2008, 15:45)
Oare nu au oameni in departamentul de design care sa zica: Bre... Laguna asta pare OK, dar fata aia e ca o broasca raioasa!!! Nu putem redesena farurile, sa-i punem o grila calumea, o bara fata sportiva???


Pai de exemplu seful departamentului de design e Patrick LeQuement, in post de vreo 10 ani. Sub el au iesit modele ca Megane 2, Laguna 2 sau Laguna 3 Coupe. Si totusi...

QUOTE(corvinarh @ 9 Sep 2008, 15:36)
laguna este un esec prin definitie... sa schimbi in perioada de garantie piese de peste 5000 de euro, in conditiile in care masina a costat 20060 euro cu tva, cum vi se pare?
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Esantion neprezentativ si apreciere de costuri nerealista.

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QUOTE(corvinarh @ 9 Sep 2008, 15:36)
laguna este un esec prin definitie... sa schimbi in perioada de garantie piese de peste 5000 de euro, in conditiile in care masina a costat 20060 euro cu tva, cum vi se pare?
rentabilitate?
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discutia este despre Laguna 3, nu Laguna 2!


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post 9 Sep 2008, 15:19
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in titlu este esecul laguna... se poate include toata gama... iar costurile... se pot afla de la dealer...

daca revenim putin, atunci cand carlos a inceput proiectul LAGUNA III a avut la baza esecul LAGUNA II... deci este doar o continuare...

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post 9 Sep 2008, 15:23
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Mie imi plac Citroenurile, sunt fan suspensie hidraulica, dar totusi, noul C5 nu imi place. Mai mult ca sigur ca din punct de vedere al suspensiei, este peste Laguna, dar, daca ar fi sa-mi cumpar din banii mei, as alege Laguna. Imi place mult mai mult.


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post 9 Sep 2008, 15:24
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Continutul topicului este despra esecul laguna 3 vs. citroen c5 ultima generatie, nu intre laguna 2 si citroen c5 vechea generatie. Nu stiu de unde ai scos informatia ca Ghosn a gqndit laguna 3 pe baza esecului laguna 2, esec doar in ochii tai, nu si ai altora.


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post 9 Sep 2008, 15:30
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QUOTE(Ov @ 9 Sep 2008, 14:05)
am un coleg caruia chiar ii place koleos. Are scenic. Asta cred ca spune totul biggrin.gif
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Poate off-topic ... dar mie-mi place la nebunie Koleos ... si am DSN blush.gif


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post 9 Sep 2008, 15:32
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cosmin_2300>>E ceva normal... icon_mrgreen.gif

''În premieră pentru acest segment, clienții își vor putea alege tipul de suspensie, în funcție de motorizare și de nivelul de echipare. Ei vor putea opta fie pentru suspensia Hydractive III +, fie pentru suspensia metalică (stilul sportiv)'' wowww precum Laguna..

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post 9 Sep 2008, 15:41
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De ce ? Ca am DSN ?
Sincer , as prefera Koleos in schimbul unei Toyota RAV4 de ex , sau Nissan Patrol , sau chiar in schimbul unui BMW X5 ( modelul vechi ) !


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post 9 Sep 2008, 16:52
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pana la urma este vorba de koleos sau de l3 vs c5?


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post 9 Sep 2008, 20:56
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Iata o stire care arata succesul Lagunei 3 in Germania, acolo unde vanzarile modelului au crescut cu 151% in perioada ianuarie-iulie 2008. Un mare succes il are si Laguna GT (pariu ca sta de o mie de ori mai bine pe sosea decat orice C5 cu Hydractive III+?), care reprezinta 12% din vanzari, desi Renault Deutscheland se astepta ca doar 5% din Lagunele vandute in Germania sa fie GT>

Stirea: http://www.ccfa.fr/spip.php?article76189&maj=oui

HAUSSE DES VENTES DE RENAULT LAGUNA SUR SEPT MOIS
9 septembre

De janvier &agrave; juillet, Renault a vendu 8 633 Laguna en Allemagne, en hausse de 151 %, détrônant l’Opel Vectra, qui est en cours de renouvellement. Jacques Rivoal, responsable de Renault Deutschland, table sur la vente de 16 000 Laguna cette année, ajoutant que la version GT rencontre un succ&egrave;s inespéré dans le pays. En effet, il prévoyait que la GT représenterait 5 % des ventes de la Laguna cette année, mais elle a déj&agrave; atteint 12 %. &laquo; Lorsque la Laguna Coupé arrivera au printemps prochain, la part de la GT devrait encore lég&egrave;rement progresser &raquo;, a-t-il ajouté. (AUTOMOTIVE NEWS EUROPE 8/9/08)


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post 9 Sep 2008, 21:00
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QUOTE(Modus @ 9 Sep 2008, 21:56)
Laguna GT (pariu ca sta de o mie de ori mai bine pe sosea decat orice C5 cu Hydractive III+)



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post 9 Sep 2008, 21:10
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nu stiu ce tot criticati laguna 3 da mie imi place mult de tot masina asta iti da un sentiment de viitor te face sa te simti undeva cu 20-30 de ani mai in viitor iar de citroen sa nu aud nu-mi place nici numele dar apoi marca.in pitesti e un laguna coupe visiniu,super masina imi place mult.


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post 9 Sep 2008, 21:13
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Asta da criteriu de a alege masina - numele marci aplauze.gif
Presupun ca 90 din nickul tau reprezinta anul tau de nastere, nu?


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post 9 Sep 2008, 21:15
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hmm da o comparatie de preturi nu face nimeni aici?????

ma refer la romanica noastra.... ca daca c5 vine la 30000 de epuroi... parca laguna devine brusc frumoasa....


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post 9 Sep 2008, 21:19
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C5 incepe de la:
Pret cu TVA: 19.190€

http://ats.ro/model.php/17


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si daca am aproape 19 ani unde e problema? n-am voie sa ma dau cu parerea? mie imi place laguna 3 punct


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QUOTE(R19/16v @ 9 Sep 2008, 21:00)
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post 9 Sep 2008, 21:40
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cu noua reducere de la laguna..cu 25000 euroi iti iei un dynamic cu 2.0dci cam cu tot ce vrei pe el......adica cu toate optionalele din lista....pe site lu serus.....


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@Modus ai idee ce este hydractiveul, ce si cum face?


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Arata foarte misto C5'ul asta... Ce sa zic... imi place mai mult decat Laguna 3. E primul Citroen care imi place de la Xantia incoace.


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Iti da oare Hydractiveul asta o viteza de intrare si iesire din viraj mai mare ca a unui Porsche Boxter?


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post 9 Sep 2008, 22:00
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Mai acu se zice ca laguna aia gt cu active drive ar fi ceva de speriat


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Nu lucrez la Renault Romania din pacate (mi-ar fi placut mult), lucrez la Valeo Timisoara.


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QUOTE(b76bgaarh @ 9 Sep 2008, 22:40)
cu noua reducere de la laguna..cu 25000 euroi iti iei un dynamic cu 2.0dci cam cu tot ce vrei pe el......adica cu toate optionalele din lista....pe site lu serus.....
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Cu 26.200 euro (pretul de pe site) iei Mondeo 2.0TDCI 140CP - echipare Titanium X, adica varf de gama (cu jante aliaj 17", radioCD Sony cu magazie 6CD si 8 boxe, afisaj Convers + color in panoul de bord, faruri autoadaptative cu iluminare laterala, tapiterie din piele Alcantara si alte maruntisuri). Asta asa... de control. Mai sunt si alte optiuni/alti producatori in banii astia. Cand o sa ajunga L3 full in zona 20.000 euro, d-abia atunci o sa fie atractiva financiar.


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Cu acelasi pret iti iei Laguna 3 Privilege (tot varf de gama) cu motorul de 2.0l dci de 150 de cai, aproape full options, cu:
- Vopsea metalizata
- Kit maini libere pentru telefon cu Bluetooth
- Trapa panoramica cu actionare electrica
- Radio 6CD cu mp3 Auditorium Cabasse 230W magazie 6CD in plansa de bord , 9 difuzoare si satelit de comanda la volan
- Pack Xenon (Proiectoare eliptice BI-Xenon+MBL cu reglaj dinamic si sistem de spalare faruri)
- Airbag-uri laterale pentru locurile spate
- Audio connexion box
- Renault Garantie Plus 24 luni

http://www.serus.ro/renault/configurator_final.php

Pret final: 26273 Euro

Asa ca la ce bun sa imi iau un Mondeo cu un motor mai slab si cu dotari mai putine? LAGUNA ROOLS

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Mai degraba Laguna, C5 , 407 si Vectra decat Mondeo.

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In Romania unde incultura auto e la rang de virtute asa e. In Vest insa preturile sunt asemanatoare intre modelele de clasa medie.


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