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catalin_cata
post 28 Jul 2012, 22:05
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salutare..am o problema urgenta..mi.am schimbat motorul totul a decurs fb dar la final nu a pornit....am verificat din nou tot ce.am facut si am constatat ca nu imi vine curent in bobina..deci nu am scanteie pe bujii si nu stiu unde am gresit....daca aveti vreo ideie sau stiti unde ar fi problema ajutati.ma...motorul este un f3n 1721 mono astept pareri si indicatii.multumesc


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post 29 Jul 2012, 11:04
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ai pastrat ecu de pe cel vechi?sa fie compatibil...
eu am patit ceva asemanator cu ecu defect.incearca sa vezi si mufa lui,cam atat imi trece acum prin minte
vezi si celelalte mufe poate nu ai pus ceva bine


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post 30 Jul 2012, 21:43
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da am pastrat tot de pe cel scos...o sa le mai iau odata la verificat...ceva sigur nu am legat corect..deoarece cand pornesc cd.playerul si dau mai tare se inchide precum nu ar avea curent sau contact imperfect...ceea ce inainte nu imi facea asa...multumesc pt parere;)


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post 31 Jul 2012, 10:06
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Verifica masa caroserie-baterie, si/sau masa caroserie-alternator.
Deasemenea plus baterie sa ajunga la electromotor, sunt cele mai comune
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post 31 Jul 2012, 19:22
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eu te-am intrebat de ecu,poate ala vechi nu e compatibil cu motorul nou.tu zici ca e de pe cel vechi,sa nu fie asta problema...


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post 1 Aug 2012, 11:44
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ecu este cel de pe motorul scos...dar a ramas tot sistemul electric ecu senzori sist de admisie ..am schimbat doar blocul motor....primeste benzina invarte electromotorul dar nu am nici un curent in bobina...am schimbat si bobina si nu vrea..masa am verificato firele pe electromotor la fel si tot nu vrea..????


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post 1 Aug 2012, 13:05
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In compartimentul motor pe contraripa stanga a masinii, ai o cutie neagra, acolo ai relee injectie si doua mufe una maro una gri, verifica acolo contacte. Schema electrica o ai in tutorial ptr consum mare.


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catalin_cata
post 2 Aug 2012, 15:02
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cum pot verifica daca bobina e arsa sau ceva relee de la aprindere sa le verific

3 Aug 2012, 12:38:
ma omoara cu zile masina asta...nu da nici cea mai mica scanteie din bobina si nu stiu de ce..am schimbat si bobina si tot nu vrea...poate avea ceva legatura cu calculatorul de la injectie sau inchiderea centralizata sau cheie de nu ii da curent?sau poate preun releu de protectie la aprindere...????si nici nu o pot duce in service ca stau destul de departe de oras....doar voi ma puteti ajuta....

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post 3 Aug 2012, 21:00
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eu nu vreau sa par pisalog dar am avut acea si problema si imi era ceva ars in ecu,un integrat mai exact.poate ai scos mufa ecu fara sa scoti bateria inainte...nu stiu.
macar scoate-l si desfa-l si miroase sa vezi daca nu e ars ,poti sa ii scoti capacul si te uiti inauntru daca nu e cveva ars pe acolo
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post 4 Aug 2012, 21:16
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am fost la un service si am intrebat despre problema mea amintita mai sus si mi.au spus ca s.ar putea a fi nepotrivire de volante...sa.mi trebuiasca volanta de pe motorul scos ca sa fie compatibila cu restul sistemului...ce parere aveti?ati mai intalnit problema asta??ms

4 Aug 2012, 21:17:
o sa desfac maine si ecu sa vad cum se prezinta...ms oricum pt pareri si sfaturi

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post 5 Aug 2012, 07:37
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ne potrivire de volante nu e adevarat ...oricum ar trebui sa ai scintee....poate e aprinderea...


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post 5 Aug 2012, 08:44
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si la aprindere cum a.si putea verifica sau ce sa verific?bobina am schimbato si tot nimic...si azi o sa verific si treaba cu volanta daca e adevarata sau nu....


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post 5 Aug 2012, 08:50
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Senzorul de punct mort de pe volant l-ai verificat? Daca ala nu citeste pozitia volantului atunci ecu nu initiaza secventa de pornire = nu da curent la bobina. Il scoti, pui limba pe pinii din mufa si cu ceva metalic atingi din cand in cand virful senzorului, tre sa piste la limba tongue.gif Nu e cea mai stiintifica metoda de masurare, dar e cea mai rapida.


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post 5 Aug 2012, 14:33
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posibil daca nu este pusa bine la punc distributia?sa nu ii dea curent sa porneasca?


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post 5 Aug 2012, 19:16
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nu are treaba cu distributia....aprinderea electronica e cea pe care sta bobina de inductie...


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post 5 Aug 2012, 19:46
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am schimbat si bobina si aprinderea...e posibil sa fi facut un scurt ca am un bazait in alternator...l.am schimbat cu altul si tot asa bazaie si asta...din ce poate fi??


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post 7 Aug 2012, 10:28
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Ai fire in scurt la alternator. verifica treseul firelor.


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post 3 Sep 2012, 17:42
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salutare din nou!!!am o intreb...ce se poate arde daca s.a legat invers la alternator..adica plusul la masa...???are r19 le din 95 imobilizator sau ceva care sa.i taie scanteia???are ceva module relee care fac asa ceva????ms

3 Sep 2012, 17:43:
rectific nu la alternator ci la electromotor...scz m.am grabit..

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