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Accident B2, 1.4 miliarde $

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post 9 Jun 2008, 04:51
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post 9 Jun 2008, 05:43
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..., si se duse ca un fum....!


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post 9 Jun 2008, 07:05
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Praful ala negru era fibra de carbon....Ce o fi patit? vant lateral?


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post 9 Jun 2008, 07:12
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post 9 Jun 2008, 12:54
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prostii au tras prea tare de mansa, iar viteza avionului a cazut sub cea in care are portanta (stall ii zice in engleza, in romana i-o zice viteza critica).
Asta daca nu cumva o fi cazut vreunul din zecile calculatoare care tin bolovanul ala in aer.


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post 9 Jun 2008, 13:04
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Cum s-a facut praf miliardul de parai! wacko.gif


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post 9 Jun 2008, 13:05
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io fi lovit nevazutul ca pe migu de la gherla, iar americanosii aia fiind mai nepriceputeanu, nu ca meseriasii de romani cu mitrica in frunte, a picat agregatul wacko.gif


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post 9 Jun 2008, 13:49
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Nu cred eu ca-l lasa calculatorul sa caleze avionul. Si oricum, un fuselaj ca ala aare portanta pana la dumnezeu, nu cred ca e chiar asa usor de calat. Un calculator care pica nu e mare problema, au redundanta.


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post 9 Jun 2008, 14:11
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nu cred ca fuselajul ala mai are portanta pe la 180-200 km/h biggrin.gif


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post 9 Jun 2008, 15:25
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HICKAM AIR FORCE BASE, Hawaii (AP) — The Air Force on Thursday said the first crash of a B-2 stealth bomber was caused by moisture in sensors and estimated the loss of the aircraft at $1.4 billion.

The crash probably could have been avoided if knowledge of a technique to evaporate the moisture had been disseminated throughout the B-2 program, said Maj. Gen. Floyd L. Carpenter, who headed an accident investigation board.

The "Spirit of Kansas" abruptly pitched up, rolled and yawed to the left Feb. 23 before plunging to the ground at Andersen Air Force Base on the island of Guam. Both pilots ejected safely just after the left wing made contact with the ground in the first crash since the maiden B-2 flights nearly 20 years ago.

"It was just by the grace of God that they were safe, and the good (ejection) system," Carpenter said.

Water distorted preflight readings in three of the plane's 24 sensors, making the aircraft's control computer force the B-2 to pitch up on takeoff, resulting in a stall and subsequent crash.

Carpenter said the pilots and crew followed procedures and "the aircraft actually performed as it was designed. In other words, all the systems were functioning normally."


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post 9 Jun 2008, 16:00
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"making the aircraft's control computer force the B-2 to pitch up on takeoff, resulting in a stall and subsequent crash."

biggrin.gif Exact ce am zis eu. S-a dus naiba calculatorul, s-a ridicat botul prea mult, a ajuns la viteza critica si... buf!


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post 9 Jun 2008, 16:15
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hade maaaah ce mai sunt banii atunci cand te distrezi la max ????

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post 9 Jun 2008, 16:20
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cam cate catapultari "fortate" suporta un pilot?

ma gandesc ca daca unu' o repeta se cam pupa pe botic de acces la alte zboruri


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post 10 Jun 2008, 12:56
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Intr-un reportaj pe Discovery spuneau despre avionul ala ca NU SE POATE PILOTA fara computer. Neavand "coada" este deosebit de instabil si traiectoria trebui ajustata de nu stiu cate ori pe secunda. Deci pa computer/senzor, pa avion...


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post 10 Jun 2008, 16:11
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Foarte tare ca a aparut filmuletul. La cat mai multe "reusite" de genul asta!


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post 10 Jun 2008, 16:15
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Esti cu capul? Oamenii aia puteau sa moara la catapultare sau in prabusire!
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post 10 Jun 2008, 20:51
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Einstein nu ai inteles ceea ce vream sa spun. E foarte bine ca pilotii s-au catapultat. Ma refer la fieratania capabila sa lanseze intr-o singura misiune nu mai putin de 23 de tone de bombe: f f bine ca e una mai putin. Cine stie cate sute sau mii de morti nevinovate are la activ pana acum fiecate B2, in numele "pacii".


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post 10 Jun 2008, 21:13
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una pentru yo:


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post 10 Jun 2008, 21:21
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mda, ca doar pentru asta au facut "investitia"


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post 11 Jun 2008, 01:55
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Explicatia completa


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post 11 Jun 2008, 14:03
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Se vede clar...decolare in limita...
Primul s-a desprins la sfarsitul sectorului 6 iar asta in sectorul 4 deja decola....intra in limita...si apoi aluneca pe un plan.
La cat de computerizat e avionul ala si la cat de grava e eroarea in decolare sigur nu a fost vorba de eroare umana.
Asta e....in numele pacii ....bummm de 1,4 mld.


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post 11 Jun 2008, 14:17
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De...atata dai, atata face. S-au calicit si au luat senzori chinezesti. radmasa.gif


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post 12 Jun 2008, 11:37
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Nu mai...made in Japan, finished in China. adica vaporul era sub pavilion chinez.


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post 13 Jun 2008, 12:03
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Or fi avut CASCO? Si daca da, le da dauna totala sau il repara si il vand in Romania? Parca vad anuntul "B2 bine intretinut, doar 30.000 km la bord, computer, sistem de catapultare, a fost al unei batranici simpatice care il folosea doar pentru mers la cumparaturi. Se livreaza cu 10 bombe si cauciucuri de iarna". biggrin.gif


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