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matrix67b
post 26 Aug 2008, 12:51
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post 27 Aug 2008, 02:25
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<span class='edit'>27 Aug 2008, 17:11:</span>
Alta chestie, ca mi-am adus aminte...

cum sta ralantiul la voi ? ma refer la cat de mult oscileaza... la mine oscileaza intre 799 si 804 rpm, deci o oscilatie de maxim 5rpm
m-am uitat la un bmw 525d si avea o oscilatie de vreo 30 rpm, la fel ca un clio 1.5dci care la fel, avea vreo 30 rpm

dupa parerea mea astea sunt erori de injectie pe care le "repara" calculatorul.

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post 27 Aug 2008, 17:28
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daca imi lipesc ochii de ceasuri poate vad oscilatia de la turometru,dar in general la 800


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post 27 Aug 2008, 17:43
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post 27 Aug 2008, 19:47
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daca nu ai laptop da pe TEST MODE si iti arata turatia digital


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post 27 Aug 2008, 20:31
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aia cum se face?? adica test mode?


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post 28 Aug 2008, 17:01
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tii butonul de la computer apasat si bagi cartela ,pornesti motorul si apesi de mai multe ori pana iti arata turatia


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post 30 Aug 2008, 13:32
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Service-ul e in Campina si e omologat tuv, foarte bine echipat pe DN1 catre breaza


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post 31 Aug 2008, 11:19
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Fratilor masinuta mea e bolnava
Azi dimineata plec cu ea si deodata simt un miros de motorina in interior...opresc imediat deschid capota si ma uit pe la filtru, pompa de inalta presiune si iaca ajung la injectoare.
Mai exact la conducta dintre injector si rampa...si pe la piulita care prinde conducta de rampa imi curge motorina (curge bine nu un strop, si asta la relanti).
Pun o intrebare oarecum prosteasca, pot sa strang acea piulita?
Cel putin sa o pot duce pana la mecanic sa vad ce trebuie schimbat.


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post 31 Aug 2008, 17:07
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post 31 Aug 2008, 22:13
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Am strans-o pana la urma
Nu mai curge dar am sa merg totusi sa verifice si mecanicul...sa nu ma lase cand nu ma astept.


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post 1 Sep 2008, 07:35
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Si la mine s-a slabit o data piulita de care zici tu si la mine la fel s-a intamplat, am strans-o si de atunci tot asa sta. Poate din cauza vibratiilor s-a destrans, sau in cel mai bun caz ti-au fost schimbate injectoarele mai demult...


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post 8 Sep 2008, 22:41
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pe tester se pot verifica injectoarele?al meu are o bataie la relantiu si in mers e putin mai zgomotos,fum nu scoate deloc,trage bine nu am caderi de putere dar la relantiu bate un injector defapt asa cred.poate sa bata si sa nu influenteze mersul masinii?cateodata cand am clima pornita numai bate,daca o opresc bate iar.am folosit tot felul de aditivi si nik.......


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post 9 Sep 2008, 00:53
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O bataie de injector se aude atunci cand motorina nu mai este pulverizata cum trebuie.
Numai ca o data cu bataia, apar si alte simptome, motorul scoate fum negru, trepideaza si oscileaza la ralanti, iar puterea e scazuta.

Pune urechea langa pompa de vacuum, vezi daca nu e cea care bate.

Si mai "arunca" o ureche si pe la roata din dreapta, ca poate e fulia de la alternator.



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post 9 Sep 2008, 13:55
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la mine nu scoate fum negru,trage bine.se aude mai mult pe partea drepta la roata ai dreptate dar cand dau drumul la clima numai face.

9 Sep 2008, 13:56:
si pompa de vacum pe unde vine cum arat multumesc.

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post 9 Sep 2008, 20:04
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pompa de vacuum e in partea stanga a masinii (dreapta cum te uiti la motor), fix in capul chiulasei. E ca o cutie rotunda de aluminiu. Parca si scrie Pierburg pe ea.

Pai vezi sa nu fie de la fulia alternatorului, ca daca dai drumul la clima atunci apar alte forte pe cureaua de accesorii( la care este legata si fulia)


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post 9 Sep 2008, 22:36
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am sa verific.multumesc

10 Sep 2008, 13:30:
in pompa de vacum se aude ai avut dreptate .pot sa ii fac ceva eu?

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post 10 Sep 2008, 17:58
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ce ulei bagi ? cati km are masina ?


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post 10 Sep 2008, 19:53
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offff offff nu este de acolo se aude mai de jos din cutie:(cand ii dau sprituri pe loc se aud niste batai cand revine la relantiu cand este turata nu prea se mai aud ,daca,, calc ambreiajul nu se mai aud.masina are 95.000 reali si i-am schimbat kit ambreiaj +volanta.ulei folosesc aral 5w 40


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post 10 Sep 2008, 20:08
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asa fac toate dupa un anumit numar de km... e de la vascozitatea uleiului din cutie... in special vara se aude mai pronuntat, probabil se subtiaza uleiul destul de mult.

http://www.reno.ro/index.php?showtopic=74310

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post 10 Sep 2008, 20:16
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am inteles,dar zgomotul asta il face doar la relantiu cand fac sprituri mai am si zgomotul al de care ziceam.vineri ma duc la doctor cu ea.a spus ca vrea sa imi dea cureaua jos de la alternator ca sa numai invarta nu stiu ce role sa vada daca mai bate asa......


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post 10 Sep 2008, 20:20
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citisem in alt topic ca ai schimbat uleiul de la cutie si ai pus 4 litri in loc de 2.2... ce ulei ai pus ?


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daaa era 80w 90 parca de la omv mi.a pus un prost am facut cu el vre-o 500 de km l.am dat afara si i,am bagat 2,3 litrii 75 80 parca elf.am schimbat kitul de ambreiaj intra bine in viteza dupa vre-o 1000 de km intra putin mai greu in 1-a a 3-a si marsalier adica cam in trepte asa.......


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post 29 Oct 2008, 23:51
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am avut si eu probleme cu 2 injectoare la o laguna 2 1,9 dci si cei de la renault mi-au spus ca trebuie echimbate.
le-am curatat(chimic) si nu am mai avut probleme.
daca intereseaza pe cineva costa 48 ron pentru fiecare injector(trebuie curatate toate)plus trebuie schimbat filtrul de motorina(toate reziduurile ramanand in filtru)
eu le am curatat la ''dormag'' (au si site)
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post 30 Oct 2008, 12:44
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in ce sens aveai probleme?


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post 30 Oct 2008, 21:33
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erau in afara parametrilor cu destul de mult
si aveam si relantiul instabil
diferenta era cam de 50-100 turatii


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post 31 Oct 2008, 08:43
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daca masina mea porneste foarte greu se poate sa fie un injector ?

turatia nu oscileaza si masina merge cumtrebuie dupa aceea .. sad.gif


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post 31 Oct 2008, 15:35
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Eu am inteles ca daca porneste greu la cald sunt de vina injectoarele. Daca dau prea multa motorina e prezent si fumul negru. Relantiul instabil (plus trepidatii) poate fi dat si de regulatorul de presiune de pe pompa care e defect....vezi aici:
http://www.reno.ro/Trepidatii-Relanti-moto...t46170-s30.html

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post 9 Nov 2008, 11:30
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... nu a mai pornit deloc : 2 injectoare praf !


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da' ce ai facut?ai bagat motorina de tractor,tocmai acum knd ieftinesc astia combustibilul? biggrin.gif oricum bafta in rezolvarea problemei


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