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post 1 Aug 2011, 09:16
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post 1 Aug 2011, 10:19
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a key objective for Obama, though the president had to give up his insistence on raising taxes on wealthy Americans to reduce deficits.

totul e un fals. america era imprumutata din anii 1800 si incet incet a ajuns aici.
modus tata, am inteles ca nu ai interes sau capacitate de a vedea dincolo de ce se spune.
surse credibile. pentru tine nici dumnezeu sa se pogoare si sa iti spuna adevaraul nu va fi suficient. nu vreau sa te conving de nimic. eu doar expun realitatea in care traim. daca vrei sa accepti bine. daca nu, iar bine.
apropo puterile mondiale nu mai sunt doar guvernele unor tari si si niste corporatii globale. acestea sunt cele mai bune in lumea afacerilor. adica pe o piata economica o corporatie multinationala oricand va fi mai eficienta decat orice guvern national. banca mondiala, fmi si alte asemenea organisme opereaza pe piete economice.
C.A. procter & gamble depaseste cu mult pib-ul multor natiuni cool.gif ei nu au nevoie de armate si de soldati caci lupta prin altfel de arme care supun orice soldatel din lumea asta.


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post 1 Aug 2011, 10:31
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QUOTE(T.rac3Er @ 1 Aug 2011, 10:19)
modus tata, am inteles ca nu ai interes sau capacitate de a vedea dincolo de ce se spune.
surse credibile. pentru tine nici dumnezeu sa se pogoare si sa iti spuna adevaraul nu va fi suficient. nu vreau sa te conving de nimic. eu doar expun realitatea in care traim. daca vrei sa accepti bine. daca nu, iar bine.
apropo puterile mondiale nu mai sunt doar guvernele unor tari si si niste
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Pana una alta tu nu citezi absolut nicio sursa asa ca toata fanfaronada asta a ta e cam nuda.

Iar daca e sa ma iau dupa tine cum ca evreii manevreaza tot ce misca as spune ca ori nu cunosti nimic ori evreii sunt mult mai prosti decat ii credeam.


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post 1 Aug 2011, 13:38
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Autorul dublului atac din 22 iulie din Norvegia, Anders Behring Breivik, a cerut demisia Guvernului si a Statului Major, dar si abdicarea suveranului si numirea sa la conducerea armatei, pentru a continua sa discute cu anchetatorii, a anuntat televiziunea publica norvegiana NRK.

In afara de demisia premierului Jens Stoltenberg si abdicarea regelui Harald al V-lea, Breivik a mai cerut, la interogatoriul desfasurat vineri, si sa fie numit la conducerea armatei, a precizat NRK.


Cereri modeste si de bun-simt.


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post 1 Aug 2011, 13:50
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Seful Politiei si cel care comanda unitatea anti-tero chiar ca trebuie sa isi dea demisia!


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post 1 Aug 2011, 13:59
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O fi citit 'Zbor deasupra unui cuib de cuci'?


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QUOTE(Modus @ 1 Aug 2011, 10:31)
Pana una alta tu nu citezi absolut nicio sursa asa ca toata fanfaronada asta a ta e cam nuda.
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Nasol Tracer! Va trebui sa cauti pe internet bloggerasi si pagini de internet care sa fie in concordanta cu parerea ta ca sa citezi o sursa la fel cum face si Modus. Si trebuie de asemenea sa spui ca cele mai mari posturi de stiri ascund ce se intampla(desi clar au aratat si ei stirea).

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post 1 Aug 2011, 14:22
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Cine si cum a acoperit?


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post 1 Aug 2011, 14:23
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Am editat. Am vrut sa spun au afisat stirea.


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post 1 Aug 2011, 17:39
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Eu sint de parere ca ar trebui sa fie lasata in pace Norvegia , oricum nimeni nu are habar despre ce simt nordici in general despre multiculturalism .

Proprietarul apartamentului unde stau eu mi-a spus urmatoarea poveste : Gandeste-te ca in satul bunicilor tai(Norvegia fiind cu o suprafata mare dar cu populatie mica ,majoritatea oraselor par ca si sate de la noi) vin intr-o zi niste refugiati (negri , galbeni , arabi , musulmani sau ce alte religii mai sint , nu conteaza) Dupa ceva timp acestia ajung sa isi ceara drepturi , lucru pe care nu-l faceau la ei in tara , dupa care vor din ce in ce mai mult si gratis daca se poate .Chiar si dupa ce primesc cetatenie vor gratis . Staul le acorda sprijin , ca sint refugiati , dar comunitatea incepe sa se sature sa ii tina in spate si pe cei noi veniti care intre timp s-au inmultit si chiar si-au adus si neamurile. Asa ca norvegianul de rand e de acord cu multiculturalismul pana la usa casei lui , in casa nu mai e asa de ok cu ideea .
Dupa revolutie cind au venit tiganii pe aici si au inceput sa fure (nu ca nu o mai fac si acum )la intrebarea politistilor de ce fac asta ca le da statul si casa si masa , ei au raspuns :"daca era garajul sau usa la casa deschisa de ce sa nu ia ". Norvegienii fiind putini se cam cunosc intre ei asa ca pentru ei e normal sa isi lase totul deschis si fara paza , dar cu afluxul de imiganti , mai ales asiatici si africani lucrurile trebuie sa se schimbe .

Poate ar trebui sa va aduceti aminte ca acu citeva luni unii impuscau prin Malmo (Suedia) imigrantii si asta in cartierele de imigranti , in Finlanda exista o miscare nationalista foarte mare , mai ales dupa ce intrarea in UE le-a adus numai belele dpdv financiar si social .


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post 1 Aug 2011, 20:46
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ovidiupay,exact la fel gandesc si eu..si asta cred ca-i un inceput..cred ca multiculturalizarea le va iesi 'pe nas' multora..


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post 2 Aug 2011, 07:58
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2 Aug 2011, 08:09:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2707677/posts

Se pare ca Oslo nu era deloc un oras linistit si sigur http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2299327.ece

Si o intrebare: de ce mass media tace si nu spune mai nimic despre cat de bine sunt tratati crestinii in Egipt? http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh...t/s_749270.html

Asta daca cineva crede ca asa zisele revolutii arabe vor schimba ceva.

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post 2 Aug 2011, 08:28
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chiar se precizeaza,modus,de ce Oslo nu mai este atat de linistit..cauza? o spune sefu' politiei.. dupa ce hoarde de nu's cate natii au cotropit tarile nordice s-a dus naibii linistea aia proverbiala din zona .. nasol ca nu mai poti scapa de belea.. mad.gif aveam cunostinta ca in Suedia,de ex,existau localitati fara politie..raspunsu' era ca n-aveau nevoie..acum nu cred ca mai este valabil..daca pt unii 'sua' era visu' oricarui muritor pt mine tarile scandinave erau.. imi pare rau c-au reusit sa 'strice' si tarile astea..ce draci sa schimbe revolutiile arabe? este o utopie..cat despre a fi crestin intr-o tara musulmana am considerat asta un act de mare curaj..intotdeauna..


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QUOTE(Modus @ 2 Aug 2011, 08:58)

Si o intrebare: de ce mass media tace si nu spune mai nimic despre cat de bine sunt tratati crestinii in Egipt?



de parca numai in egipt...peste tot, in lumea muslmana, pe unde exista comunitati de crestini acestia din urma sint atacati, masacrati, bisericile distruse, cartile sfinte arse, preotii ucisi, schingiuiti, copiii si femeile mutilati...


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Cunosc foarte bine lucrurile acestea. Sunt indignat ca atunci cand un crestin face ceva mass media baga stiri, reportaje la greu.
Dar despre nemusulmanii care sunt in "groapa cu lei" in tarile musulmane nu transpar decat foarte putine lucruri si foarte rar pe canalele mari de media.





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sa nu uitam și de biserca ortdoxă din nordul Kosovo , unde 95% din populație este sărbă, acuma acolo este un proces invers de purificare, sub mare ingăduință a CE prin trupele KFOR.

sper ca nu am fost antisemit....
probabil de la așa gânduri a plecat și norvegianul...


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QUOTE(george_scala_2004 @ 2 Aug 2011, 12:28)
de parca numai in egipt...peste tot, in lumea muslmana, pe unde exista comunitati de crestini acestia din urma sint atacati, masacrati, bisericile distruse, cartile sfinte arse, preotii ucisi, schingiuiti, copiii si femeile mutilati...
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Ai terminat cu linkurile?
Ai inceput cu perlele?
De unde le tot scoateti,frate?


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post 2 Aug 2011, 11:55
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Crestinii sunt cei mai cuminti:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

Armata israeliana inconjurase perimetrul sa nu iasa nimeni, in timp ce crestinii omorau femei si copii si alti civili.

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"People may have forgotten by now that the killings were actually done by Maronite Christians known as the Lebanese Forces. Many of them came from the Christian town of Damour, where hundreds of people had been massacred by Palestinians who attacked and destroyed the town six years earlier. This was part of a bloody civil war in Lebanon -- in which the PLO played a brutal, and perhaps seminal, role -- with massacres and counter-reprisals that had gone on for years before the Israelis ever arrived. At the time, the Palestinians had set up a quasi-state-within-a-state in Lebanon, informed by terror, intimidation, and corruption, and led by none other than Yasser Arafat. Yet there appears to be no great enthusiasm in Belgium to try him as a war criminal. The world may also have forgotten that what triggered the Sabra massacre was the Syrian-sponsored terrorist explosion that killed Lebanese president-elect Bashir Gemayel, head of the Phalangist party and a Palestinian foe, along with 21 other party and militia officials. "

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48883672.html

http://arabterrorism.tripod.com/FAQ/shatilla.html



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Ai terminat cu linkurile?
Ai inceput cu perlele?
De unde le tot scoateti,frate?
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Care e tara aia minunata in care lucrezi?

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QUOTE(M.C. @ 2 Aug 2011, 12:51)
Ai terminat cu linkurile?
Ai inceput cu perlele?
De unde le tot scoateti,frate?
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asta patesti daca te uti doar la televizor si inghiti ce gindesc altii...

despre crestinii din nigeria ce spui ? dar despre cei din filipine ? sau din sudan, drept pentru care au oluptat si au un stat al lor in sud ? sau de cei din egipt ? india ? nu mai zic de monarhiile din golf...


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@ modus
Emiratele Arabe Unite.
Iar natura muncii mele m-a purtat cam prin toate tarile din zona,cu religie musulmana.
Si in nici una ,dar in nici una nu am avut nici un fel de probleme ca sunt crestin.
Inclusiv Arabia Saudita.

@george
Din umilelele mele cunostinte,stiam ca Filipine e o tara cu populatie preponderent crestina.

Si repet,nu vreau sa conving pe nimeni ca religia asta e mai buna sau mai rea decit a mea,la care nu voi renunta pentru nimic in lume,asa cum au facut altii,vreau doar sa spun ca nu este dracul atit de negru pe cit se spune prin mass-media!
Daca am invata sa fim un pic mai toleranti,ar fi perfect !


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QUOTE(M.C. @ 2 Aug 2011, 14:36)
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@george
Din umilelele mele cunostinte,stiam ca Filipine e o tara cu populatie preponderent crestina.
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da, asa este...numa' ca aia din mindanao nu ii mai vor pe paminturile lor...


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@ modus
Emiratele Arabe Unite.
Iar natura muncii mele m-a purtat cam prin toate tarile din zona,cu religie musulmana.
Si in nici una ,dar in nici una nu am avut nici un fel de probleme ca sunt crestin.
Inclusiv Arabia Saudita.
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Tu nu ai avut probleme, insa alti crestini da:

"The government prohibited proselytizing and the distribution of non-Islamic religious literature under penalty of criminal prosecution, imprisonment, and deportation. Although there were no specific laws against missionary activity, in the past the government reportedly has threatened to revoke the residence permits of persons suspected of proselytizing for religions other than Islam.

The law requires Muslims and non-Muslims to refrain from eating, drinking, and smoking in public during fasting hours during the month of Ramadan out of respect for Islamic practice. Shi'a were free to celebrate Ashura according to their customs.

The country's two Internet service providers, Etisalat and du, occasionally blocked Web sites containing religious information. These sites included information on the Baha'i Faith, Judaism, atheism, negative critiques of Islam, and testimonies of former Muslims who converted to Christianity. The law provides penalties for using the Internet to preach against Islam.

As the government does not recognize or permit conversion from Islam to another religion, churches accepted converts from all religions except Islam.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2010/148850.htm

Iar in Arabia Saudita "textbooks continued to contain overtly intolerant statements against Jews and Christians and subtly intolerant statements against Shi'a and other religious groups. For example, during the reporting period they continued to state that apostates from Islam should be killed if they do not repent within three days of being warned and that treachery is a permanent characteristic of non-Muslims, especially the Jews.

Despite government revisions to elementary and secondary education textbooks, they retained language intolerant of other religious traditions, especially Jewish, Christian, and Shi'a beliefs, including commands to hate infidels and kill apostates.

In the event a court renders a judgment in favor of a plaintiff who is a Jewish or Christian male, the plaintiff is only entitled to receive 50 percent of the compensation a Muslim male would receive; all others are only entitled to receive one-sixteenth the amount a male Muslim would receive.

Sunni clerics, who receive government stipends, occasionally used anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, and anti-Shi'a language in their sermons. It was common for preachers in mosques, including the mosques of Mecca and Medina, to end Friday sermons with a prayer for the well-being of Muslims and for the humiliation of polytheism and polytheists."

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2010/148843.htm



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@Modus
Da ,asa e cu Ramadamul.
Si acum suntem in aceasta perioada.
Dar nu ma deranjeaza cu absolut nimic chestia asta.
Este vorba sa nu faci chestiile alea in public.
Si pina la urma,astea sunt legile tarii,trebuie sa le respecti.
Daca nu iti convine,nu te obliga nimeni sa stai !
Dar,sincer,ma intreb de unde ai strins atita ura in tine impotriva lor !
Chestia cu toleranta era pentru tine !
Iar adevarul este ca acel scelerat din Oslo era un musulman care lupta impotriva crestinilor,nu un crestin care a tras tot in crestini!
Asta ca sa fim ontopic!





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QUOTE(M.C. @ 2 Aug 2011, 15:14)
Si pina la urma,astea sunt legile tarii,trebuie sa le respecti.
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Corect, atat timp cat nu sunt discriminatorii.

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Dar,sincer,ma intreb de unde ai strins atita ura in tine impotriva lor !
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De unde reiese ca-i urasc?

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Iar adevarul este ca  acel scelerat din Oslo era un musulman care lupta impotriva crestinilor,nu un crestin care a tras tot in crestini!
Asta ca sa fim ontopic!
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Era unul care lupta impotriva spalarii la creier care se facea pe acea insula.

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Cu ultima afirmatie,ai spus tot! furios.gif
Ar trebui sa-ti fie rusine,asta daca ai avea un minim de respect pentru vietile tinere luate acolo de catre un idiot,care avea aceleasi idei ca si tine !




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Cu ce am gresit? Pe insula tinerii erau educati anti-Israel si pro-Palestina

http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/07/24/n...t-israel-rally/



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i-ai fi vazut pe strazile israeliene sau occidentale cu batoanele de dinamita sub halate sarind in aer in autobuze, metrouri sau avioane sau cu akm-urile de rigoare in miini strigind moarte necredinciosilor si murind cu zimbetul pe fata si cu gindul la cele 72 de fecioare promise de mahomed in rai...

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