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85 cp sau 105 cp?, Megan dci

micutzul
post 4 Oct 2007, 21:12
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Toata lumea zice k la 110 are 2500rot/min la motorul de 1.5dci 85cp,dar eu am la 2500 rot/min fix 120km/h in treapta a V-a si ultima binenteles.
Care este smecheria?Nu-mi merge mie ceasornicarele sau am motor mai "vanjos"?

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post 6 Oct 2007, 08:23
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micutzul : E o mica diferenta intre motoarele diesel si cele pe benzina, n-ai zice ? La 1.5 dci 80 ar trebui sa ai 3000 rpm la 130 km/h in tr5 deci e bine cum iti arata tie...


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post 7 Oct 2007, 09:00
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De exemplu ii dau a 5a si o las la 1 mie de rotati deci merge singura(fara sa apas aceleratia) cu o viteza de vreo 40kmh constat unde e drum drept si nu mi se pare subturat(sau sa faca urat), este bine sau nu ?biggrin.gif motorl este 1.5 105


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post 7 Oct 2007, 09:32
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E mult prea jos. smile.gif


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post 10 Oct 2007, 09:01
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QUOTE(aaddrryyss @ 27 Aug 2007, 15:50)
e bine cu 85 de cai, dar daca as da timpul inapoi as alege 105. Nu-s vitezoman, circul mult cu sotia si bebe-ul in masina, insa totusi as alege 105 cai, pentru situatiile cand e nevoie.


O luna jumate mai tarziu, iata ca simt o nevoie compulsiva sa subliniez din nou ideea de mai sus.
Valabila doar pentru autostrada momentan (sau drumuri late, bune, dar aglomerate)

Daca o sa simt si a treia oara chestia asta, e clar ca se dezvolta un sentiment puternic de regret.


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post 10 Oct 2007, 14:13
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Nu stiu de ce nu va place cel de 85cp, dar mie imi place la nebunie cum merge,cum demareaza si sincer nu regret ca nu am ales motorizarea de 105cp in detrimentul dotarilor.


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post 10 Oct 2007, 14:49
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ba ne place... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(aaddrryyss @ 10 Oct 2007, 09:01)
e bine cu 85 de cai


doar ca invers ne-ar fi placut si mai mult...nu intelege ca as fi renuntat la dotari totusi


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post 10 Oct 2007, 17:52
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Am auzit ca motorul de 105 cp este mai turat, vinde din fabrica intr-un fel reampat si ca ar fi mai fiabil cel de 85cp.


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post 10 Oct 2007, 18:38
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Cum adica mai turat?Ce inseamna rempat?
Pentru posesorii de megane cu 105cp,cate turatii aveti cu in treapta a V-a la 110,dar la 130 km/h?

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post 10 Oct 2007, 19:09
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Cum sa vina remapat din fabrica ? 105 CP este fata de cel de 85 cum era cel de 100 fata de cel de 80. Nu scoate producatorul o versiune de motorizare daca stie ca este mai putin fiabila, si-ar sapa singur groapa. Sunt motoare moderne, commonrail, 4 supape pe cilindru, turbo cu geometrie variabila, puteri de ordinul 105 CP din 1.5 nu este ceva anormal.
Opel are din 1.7, 125 CP. Nu e ceva neobisnuit.


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post 10 Oct 2007, 20:00
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Pentru posesorii de megane cu 105cp,cate turatii aveti cu in treapta a V-a la 110,dar la 130 km/h? please



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post 11 Oct 2007, 10:01
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Pentru micutzul :
2000 rpm la 100 km/h, 2500 rpm la 124 km/h, 3000 rpm la 152 km/h - toate in treapta 6. La 90 km/h am 2000 rpm in treapta 5 dupa aceea schimb. Nu am incercat 130 km/h cu a 5-a ( cand voi face o proba postez ).


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post 20 Oct 2007, 19:08
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cheers.gif Mersi

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post 27 Dec 2007, 13:06
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Merita din plin cel de 105CP. Se simte diferenta fata de cel de 85CP.
Daca masina e luata in leasing atunci diferenta de pret la rata este f mica si ica o data merita investitia pentru motorul de 105CP.


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post 27 Dec 2007, 15:07
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Am mers cu 105, mi s-a parut masina mai stransa, mai putine trepidatii,putere...parca nu asa mult cat ar trwebui cu inca 20 cp...Prefer oricand dotari mai multe in locul acestotr 20 cp.ce ma incanta este norma Euro 4, in rest...las pe altii sa se bucure de 105cp!


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post 14 Feb 2008, 15:22
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Are cineva o diagrama cuplu/putere pentru cele 2 motoare ( 105 si 85 cp ) ?


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post 14 Feb 2008, 16:17
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Eu am tot 85cp dar e bicorp.Sunt foarte multumit cum se comporta la cei 85cp fiind si diesel.Intr-adevar sedanul e mai mare si mai grea!


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post 14 Feb 2008, 16:58
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Bicorp 1195 kg
Sedan 1205 / 1215 kg

E o mare diferanta!


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post 14 Feb 2008, 20:30
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Am motor de 1,5 dci 85 cp si trage nesperat de bine si sunt f multumit de el .


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post 14 Feb 2008, 20:53
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1.5, 85CP. consum mic si indeajuns de puternica pt o masina de familie. daca vrei mai multa adrenalina poate105CP e mai bun dar nu cu foarte mult. mai bine de diferenta pui niste optionale!
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post 14 Feb 2008, 21:04
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Pe loganul de 1,4 aveam 75 de cai, dar in comparatie cu cei 85 din Megane..parca erau iepurasi aia!Am mers cu sedan la 105 si nu mise pare extraordinar de puternica.Prefer 105 pt ca e euro 4 si atat, in rest ce am acum imi satisface toate poftele legate de puterea unui motor, demaraj, cuplu motor, consum, poate un pic de zgomot..


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post 14 Feb 2008, 22:46
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pentru florin.t

1.5 dci 85CP - cuplu maxim 200 la 1900
1.5 dci 105 CP - cuplu maxim 240 la 2000.

Puterea maxima la 85 CP - la 3750 turatii-min
la 105 cp - la 4000

Referitor la alte postari (care e diferenta), desi senzatia e o chestiune personala, nu are cum un cuplu de 200 se se simta la fel ca unul de 240. La plecarea de pe loc, la o depasire din scurt, se simte. Simti ca masina are "rezerva" de putere. Probabil ca folosirea ei duce la costuri suplimentare, insa, dincolo de asta, ea exista, fie ca o "simtim" fie ca nu.


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Nu am mers inca cu 85 CP sa vad diferenta , dar cu 100 CP am mers doar in oras si pot spune ca mare diferenta nu am vazut .
Nu imi pare rau pentru alegerea facuta , cutia de viteze ma incanta pe autostrada unde merg destul de des . Faptul ca este un motor Euro 4, cred ca conteaza !


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QUOTE(Carina @ 14 Feb 2008, 22:46)
pentru florin.t

1.5 dci 85CP - cuplu maxim 200 la 1900
1.5 dci 105 CP - cuplu maxim 240 la 2000.



Multumesc ! Am vazut in brosura de prezentare la megane diagrame (grafice) pt. 1.4 100 cp, 1.5 105 cp si pt. 1.6, 110 dar pt. 1.5 85 cp nu era. Ai cumva un asemenea grafic ? E important si cum creste acea putere ca la 105 cp era o crestre mare intre 2000 si 3000 ture, apoi cresterea de putere era mai mica , cuplul fiind aproape constant dupa 2000 ture.


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