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Opel Crossland X (Polizorul Turbo), și Mazda CX-30. Două plasticuri.

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post 24 Jun 2020, 09:12
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Esti barosan. Ai 2 capoate la motor.
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post 24 Jun 2020, 10:00
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Inghesuiala mare sub capace. Mijto de lucrat blush.gif


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Misto japoneza. Sa te duca sanatos pe unde ai nevoie...

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post 24 Jun 2020, 11:17
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Are nevoie de un anume tip de benzina?
Sau merge cu orice ?


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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:01
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QUOTE(Victorine @ 24 Jun 2020, 08:41)
De prin review-uri, lumea se astepta la consumuri mai mici de la motorul asta corcit, care de altfel e foarte interesant. O sa ne spui tu probabil cum sta treaba.
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De prin review uri 2.0 clasic consuma mai puțin.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:31
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QUOTE(bgdrenault @ 24 Jun 2020, 08:38)
Pacat de ranga aia care sustine capota la motor. Cat sa si fost doua amortizoare de capota, in comparatie cu ranga aia? 30 E in plus. Si meganul turcesc are, chiar doua. Pana si loganul
Cum sa strici o frumusete cu o pwla bleaga?
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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:42
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QUOTE(dizzy @ 24 Jun 2020, 12:17)
Are nevoie de un anume tip de benzina?
Sau merge cu orice ?
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al meu e 12:1 si merge cu 95 dar prefera 99+. banui ca si asta la fel.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:44
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Da, merge cu CO 95 minim. I-am pus CO 100.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:52
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Din cate am mai citit...pentru motorul asta mai bine e sa folosesti benzina de 95. Ideea e sa mearga mai mult in regim de aprindere prin compresie, iar teoretic benzina cu CO mare ar preveni asta.

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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:57
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Eu stiam ca de obicei la motoare cu RC peste 10(11?) se recomanda benzina cu CO mare. Pe buson scrie "min 95".

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post 24 Jun 2020, 12:57
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Multi kmp fara nici un fel de probleme iti doresc.
Interiorul simplist cu acele cusaturi la vedere imi pare f fain.
Ignora haterii, capota cu amortizoare nu are utilitate. La cat de des trebuie umblat sub capota e mai mult decat suficienta tija. Sa nu vorbim de fiabilitate si greutate redusa.
Se stie ca mazda cauta sa reduca greutatea de peste tot...


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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:11
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@psychoo: multam. Daca vrei sa o vezi pe viu, da un semn, parca suntem consateni, din ce imi aduc aminte.

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Inghesuiala mare sub capace. Mijto de lucrat blush.gif
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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:12
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QUOTE(marksman @ 24 Jun 2020, 13:57)
Eu stiam ca de obicei la motoare cu RC peste 10(11?) se recomanda benzina cu CO mare. Pe buson scrie "min 95".
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O fi, dar asa cum zice si colegu' mai sus, asta functioneaza si ca un diesel si-atunci trebe ca benziba sa se aprinda usor la comprimarea amestecului. Da banui ca stie cslculatorul ce sa faca si la CO mai mare.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:26
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E supraalimentat cu compresor mecanic? Sau ce e arătarea aia cu fulie neagră?


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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:27
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Da, are compresor mecanic. Cica asa au reusit sa atinga curba de cuplu maxim cu 1000 rpm mai jos.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:30
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Da, are compresor mecanic atasat, rolul lui e de a ajuta la mentinerea unui amestec sarac pentru modul de functionare in regimul "Spark Controlled Compression Ignition". De altfel nu adauga prea multa putere (il tradeaza valorile mici de cuplu comparativ cu o supraalimentare obisnuita) ci mai mult trateaza curba de cuplu.

Motorul nu functioneaza niciodata strict ca un diesel, adica fara scanteie, fiindca acest lucru nu a fost facut inca posibil. In schimb, la sarcini mici si viteze mici, bujia aprinde doar o mica parte din amestec, restul de amestec arzand prin autoaprindere ca la diesel.

Nu avem cum sa stim in ce fel influenteaza CO - ul benzinei comportamentul motorului in acest mod de functionare fiindca intr-adevar, se cam bate cap in cap cu intentia de detonatie controlata. Dar e clar ca un CO ridicat va fi util pentru momentele cand motorul functioneaza ca un benzinar normal, adica la sarcini/turatii/viteze mari, fiindca raportul ala de comprimare e wow.

Motorul asta ar fi senzatie pe o masina usoara.

A, si multi kmp fara incidente si de la mine!

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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:35
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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 24 Jun 2020, 12:31)
O parere tipica de coltul strazii. Oare cand o sa iesiti si voi din bula????
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post 24 Jun 2020, 13:48
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Ar fi cazul sa va potoliti, ca incep sa dau cu matura.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 14:21
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QUOTE(bgdrenault @ 24 Jun 2020, 14:35)
stii tu vorba aia, bine ca esti tu destept.
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Ironick cred ca a vrut sa zica cu mai putine cuvinte ca lipsa amortizoarelor e cel mai probabil cauzata de sistemele de protectie a pietonilor. smile.gif

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post 24 Jun 2020, 14:23
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Eu stiu care este cauza, nu este singurul producator care le-a scos.
Sunt aceleasi discutii pe forumurile marcilor, indiferent de producator.
Culmea, jurnalisti auto s-au plans de acelasi lucru, fara sa studieze macar prezenta chiar a doua incuietori la capota.

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In afara de taierea costurilor, care ar mai fi cauza? Siguranta pietonilor nu cred ca e de vina aici, fiindca sunt masini care inca nu au renuntat la amortizoarele pentru capota si s-au descurcat foarte bine la testele de impact cu pietonii


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post 24 Jun 2020, 14:34
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Capotele active nu prea sunt compatibile cu amortizoarele de capota, de aia ziceam de protectia pentru pietoni. Mazda stiu ca foloseste sistemul asta.


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post 24 Jun 2020, 14:44
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Salut, intreb de curiozitate, la ce ar fi utile doua incuietori de capota, presupunanad ca sunt la marginile capotei dinspre nasul masinii? Nu exista pericolul sa se sprijine in 3 puncte din 4 si sa deformeze pe cea supra solicitata?

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QUOTE(marksman @ 24 Jun 2020, 12:57)
Pe buson scrie "min 95".
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post 24 Jun 2020, 15:16
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Chiar si la ala din 2004 scrie asa smile.gif
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post 24 Jun 2020, 16:13
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EU zic sa scapi de rodaj si mergi si cu 95 si cu 98 sau 99 si vezi care-ti place mai mult. Motoreta de exemplu nu simtea diferenta la 99, dar masina, fiind si GDI si cu senzor de detonatii clar o simte si consuma mai putin.


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Acum astept sa se consume plinul facut cu benzina de CO 100. Am facut undeva la 128 km ieri, si zice ca mai merge inca 490. Urmatorul plin va fi cu benzina de CO 95 si teoretic din doua plinuri e gata rodajul.


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QUOTE(psychoo @ 24 Jun 2020, 13:57)
La cat de des trebuie umblat sub capota e mai mult decat suficienta tija.
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post 24 Jun 2020, 18:33
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Foarte faina masina!
Ai pus vreo frana involuntara cu stangul cand obisnuinta de la cutia manuala te face sa apesi ambreajul?
Numa dupa cateva zile de condus automata reusesc sa ma oobisnuiesc cu ideea ca stangul are regim de relaxare. Noroc ca fac fazele doar la viteze mici.

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Am apasat eu "ambreiajul" in depasirea unui tir. Nu doresc senzatia nici dusmanilor...


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