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 8 Mar 2016, 22:26
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| paul_p |
8 Mar 2016, 22:31
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De ce ai plana o chiulasa noua?
 Seria motorului este trecuta pe blocul motor, nu pe chiulasa. |
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| deceneu32 |
8 Mar 2016, 22:35
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Este si pe chiulasa.
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| sobolan |
8 Mar 2016, 22:41
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QUOTE(paul_p @ 8 Mar 2016, 23:31) De ce ai plana o chiulasa noua?  omu' s-a gandit ca poate a inlocuit-o cu una dar sh si apoi cand iei sh verifici bine inainte de a monta si planezi dupa caz....  |
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| paul_p |
8 Mar 2016, 22:43
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QUOTE(Mihai @ ro,8 Mar 2016, 02:34) Ce sa mai lucrat intre timp: - chiulasa noua |
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| sobolan |
8 Mar 2016, 22:48
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n-am citit mai sus....apoi nu mai inteleg nimic nici eu
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| Mihai,ro |
8 Mar 2016, 23:35
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sobolan Salutare, chiulasa este noua cum am mai spus si pana acum, imi amintesc ca am pus si poze comparand chiulasa veche cu cea noua cand am prezentat cateva din piesele noi. Chiulasa nu a avut nevoie de nicio rectificare/planare, iar seria inscriptionata pe ea nu este cea a motorului, cred ca pe cea veche s'ar putea sa fie poansonata.  p.s. chiulasa veche a masinii n'avea nimic, doar ca am schimbat'o ca am gasit noua, a fost un moft ca sa zic asa, la fel si cu celelalte, gen supape, arcuri si alte cele..  paul_p multam de clarificari si promptitudine  Intre timp am asamblat si motorul: piese noi: 1. set motor borgo nou 2. axa came noua 3. vibrochen/arbore cotit nou cota st 4. semicuzineti+cuzineti+inele axiale cota st noi 5. pompa ulei noua 6. intinzator mecanic nou 7. lant distributie nou 8. simeringuri, garnituri si alte maruntisuri ce mai vedeti prin poze inafara de biele au fost inlocuite procedeu: 1.s'au verificat si suflat cu compresorul gaurile din blocul motor inca odata inainte de inceperea montajului 2.s'au respectat cotele de strangere 3.pistoanele bielele au fost incalzite pe plita 4.setul motor a fost clatit cu diluant inainte de montare poze: This post has been edited by Mihai,ro: 9 Mar 2016, 21:42 Attached thumbnail(s) WP_20160204_09_35_56_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.41mb ) Number of downloads: 156 WP_20160204_09_36_05_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.25mb ) Number of downloads: 130 WP_20160204_09_52_51_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.57mb ) Number of downloads: 118 WP_20160204_09_52_57_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.5mb ) Number of downloads: 95 WP_20160204_09_59_55_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.51mb ) Number of downloads: 91 WP_20160204_10_12_05_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.36mb ) Number of downloads: 92 WP_20160204_10_20_01_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.52mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160204_10_20_06_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.62mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160204_10_20_15_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.33mb ) Number of downloads: 81 WP_20160204_10_21_10_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.6mb ) Number of downloads: 78 WP_20160204_11_59_28_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.39mb ) Number of downloads: 79 WP_20160204_11_59_42_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.54mb ) Number of downloads: 88 WP_20160204_12_27_55_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.52mb ) Number of downloads: 86 WP_20160204_12_59_09_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.79mb ) Number of downloads: 84 WP_20160204_13_47_25_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.55mb ) Number of downloads: 87 WP_20160204_13_56_20_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.25mb ) Number of downloads: 88 WP_20160204_15_03_04_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.59mb ) Number of downloads: 95 WP_20160204_15_14_13_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.32mb ) Number of downloads: 86 WP_20160204_15_14_23_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.43mb ) Number of downloads: 97 WP_20160204_15_18_15_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.54mb ) Number of downloads: 94 WP_20160204_15_23_13_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.73mb ) Number of downloads: 97 WP_20160204_15_45_21_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.89mb ) Number of downloads: 90 WP_20160204_15_45_33_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.01mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160204_16_39_25_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.3mb ) Number of downloads: 85 WP_20160204_16_49_39_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.61mb ) Number of downloads: 79 WP_20160204_17_06_47_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.56mb ) Number of downloads: 92 WP_20160204_17_07_00_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.54mb ) Number of downloads: 91 WP_20160204_17_11_20_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.27mb ) Number of downloads: 82 WP_20160204_17_12_04_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.4mb ) Number of downloads: 70 WP_20160204_17_17_18_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.49mb ) Number of downloads: 76 WP_20160204_17_32_41_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.58mb ) Number of downloads: 84 WP_20160204_17_32_51_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.74mb ) Number of downloads: 82 WP_20160204_17_40_41_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.62mb ) Number of downloads: 74 WP_20160204_17_40_53_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.39mb ) Number of downloads: 76 WP_20160204_17_42_39_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.72mb ) Number of downloads: 84 WP_20160204_18_16_23_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.84mb ) Number of downloads: 84 WP_20160204_18_23_47_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.51mb ) Number of downloads: 70 WP_20160204_18_23_55_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.77mb ) Number of downloads: 69 WP_20160204_18_25_47_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.76mb ) Number of downloads: 79 WP_20160204_18_30_02_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.3mb ) Number of downloads: 81 WP_20160204_18_30_11_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.13mb ) Number of downloads: 93 WP_20160204_18_30_19_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.54mb ) Number of downloads: 105 WP_20160204_18_39_04_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.53mb ) Number of downloads: 101 WP_20160204_18_44_30_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.57mb ) Number of downloads: 98 WP_20160204_18_44_35_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.56mb ) Number of downloads: 97 WP_20160204_18_52_25_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.65mb ) Number of downloads: 98 WP_20160204_18_55_09_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.38mb ) Number of downloads: 100 WP_20160205_10_15_24_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.53mb ) Number of downloads: 93 WP_20160205_10_15_31_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.45mb ) Number of downloads: 83 WP_20160205_10_15_42_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.45mb ) Number of downloads: 73 WP_20160205_10_15_49_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.52mb ) Number of downloads: 74 WP_20160205_10_54_48_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.63mb ) Number of downloads: 81 WP_20160205_10_54_56_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.68mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160205_11_10_52_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.41mb ) Number of downloads: 101 |
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| sobolan |
9 Mar 2016, 21:39
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borgo ?
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| Mihai,ro |
9 Mar 2016, 21:40
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sobolan pai normal, mecanicu' stie mai bine ca e in meserie de 40 de ani
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| ionutf |
10 Mar 2016, 17:16
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 Felicitari Mihai, a iesit bestiala masina;!!!  Nam mai urmărit ce ai făcut, mi-a luat o ora sa mă uit la toate pozele eu încă nu am gasit nicio dacie la pret rezonabil sa iau. A fost una rosie identica cu a ta dar voia pe ea 5500 € si mi s-a părut cam maricel pretu având in vedere ca nici navea poze din timpul restaurării si cum era masina înainte.Daca vrei sa o vinzi dupa ce o faci sa nu eziti sa mă anunți si spor la lucru in continuare cu masinuta  |
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| Mihai,ro |
10 Mar 2016, 17:24
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intre timp am bagat si ceara in:
-lonjeroane -praguri -aripi spate -stalpi fata -pe la motor -in portbagaj -si ceara care a ramas am pensulat tot sasiul si mai ales pasajele rotilor spate si podul pedalier la vara vreau sa mai bag odata ceara de cavitati prin toate gaurile, dar tre' sa le astup pe celelalte ca asta care am dat'o a curs jumate pe jos ca n'am pus doape.. poze cu ce am mai facut pe la masina (maruntisuri pe la electrica, mecanica etc.): -schimbat pistonase + garnituri etrieri -schimbat furtune frana etrieri -revizuit instalatia electrica (schimbat papuci si alte cele) -pus pompa de frana noua -pus aeroterma noua This post has been edited by Mihai,ro: 10 Mar 2016, 18:11 Attached thumbnail(s) WP_20160125_11_26_33_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.3mb ) Number of downloads: 129 WP_20160125_13_43_10_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.15mb ) Number of downloads: 114 WP_20160125_16_53_50_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.64mb ) Number of downloads: 132 WP_20160125_21_57_11_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.6mb ) Number of downloads: 127 WP_20160125_22_05_26_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.81mb ) Number of downloads: 103 WP_20160126_17_33_56_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.42mb ) Number of downloads: 109 WP_20160126_17_34_14_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.15mb ) Number of downloads: 101 WP_20160126_17_36_19_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.17mb ) Number of downloads: 91 WP_20160127_13_37_14_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.17mb ) Number of downloads: 96 WP_20160127_13_53_34_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.62mb ) Number of downloads: 93 WP_20160127_13_53_42_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.81mb ) Number of downloads: 85 WP_20160127_14_34_28_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.05mb ) Number of downloads: 86 WP_20160127_14_34_36_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.28mb ) Number of downloads: 92 WP_20160127_14_35_17_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.22mb ) Number of downloads: 94 WP_20160127_18_18_52_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.83mb ) Number of downloads: 86 WP_20160128_15_48_46_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.72mb ) Number of downloads: 91 WP_20160128_15_48_54_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.13mb ) Number of downloads: 88 WP_20160128_16_23_32_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.69mb ) Number of downloads: 87 WP_20160128_16_23_43_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.57mb ) Number of downloads: 85 WP_20160128_16_48_31_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.59mb ) Number of downloads: 90 WP_20160128_17_22_07_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.97mb ) Number of downloads: 90 WP_20160128_18_12_55_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.09mb ) Number of downloads: 92 WP_20160128_18_20_44_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.56mb ) Number of downloads: 98 WP_20160128_18_30_54_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.38mb ) Number of downloads: 94 WP_20160128_18_35_54_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.26mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160128_18_54_08_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.22mb ) Number of downloads: 81 WP_20160128_18_54_20_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.92mb ) Number of downloads: 82 WP_20160129_16_32_36_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.74mb ) Number of downloads: 82 WP_20160129_16_33_03_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.62mb ) Number of downloads: 80 WP_20160201_13_27_44_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.27mb ) Number of downloads: 81 WP_20160201_13_51_44_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.46mb ) Number of downloads: 85 WP_20160201_13_51_53_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.62mb ) Number of downloads: 97 WP_20160201_13_53_41_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.38mb ) Number of downloads: 100 WP_20160201_13_53_57_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.63mb ) Number of downloads: 97 WP_20160201_13_54_08_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.93mb ) Number of downloads: 96 WP_20160201_17_32_59_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.67mb ) Number of downloads: 92 WP_20160203_09_29_46_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.12mb ) Number of downloads: 94 WP_20160203_12_15_22_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.32mb ) Number of downloads: 93 WP_20160203_12_15_28_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.2mb ) Number of downloads: 99 WP_20160206_13_36_49_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.31mb ) Number of downloads: 105 WP_20160206_13_37_02_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.53mb ) Number of downloads: 115 |
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| sobolan |
10 Mar 2016, 18:06
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la ventola da cu silicon de motor negru,cu masticul ala nu etanseaza bine si la strangere poate face poc plasticul ala...apa intra in masina=sentiment neplacut !
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| Mihai,ro |
10 Mar 2016, 18:08
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ionutf Salutare Ionut, multam de aprecieri! ma ce sa zic masina a iesit bine, dar se putea si mai bine..
De vandut nu am de gand s'o vand in primu rand ca am bagat prea mult suflet in ea si in al doilea rand ca nu mi'as recupera investitia, adica sa nu mai vorbesc de drumuri facute dupa piese dupa una alta si consumabile, strict ce am bagat in masina nu mi'ar convenii s'o vand. Si in al 3-lea rand ca daca as vinde'o ar trebuii sa i'au alta s'o fac ca p'asta si mai bine imi bag un bat in c*r decat sa ma apuc de alta sa o fac la fel sobolan momentan o sa las aeroterma cu masticu' respectiv, daca intra apa pe undeva o sa refac atunci, cu toate ca ma indoiesc, eu pana acum nu am avut probleme cu masticu asta, izoleaza foarte bine, nu mananca tabla cum sunt majoritatea rahaturilor din ziua de azi care miros a otet si daca as fi dat cu dala negru, daca as fi vrut vreodata sa o schimb sau sa am vreo interventie pe acolo creca as fi tras masticul cu tot cu vopsea si tabla. continuare poze: Vinde cineva vreo bara fata frantuzeasca? (adica daia dintr'o bucata, lata) sa fie nelovita si sa aibe cromul cat de cat ok, daca e gaurita nu e problema ca am de gand sa arunc si 2 proiectoare pe ea si nu ma deranjeaza gaurile.. This post has been edited by Mihai,ro: 10 Mar 2016, 19:08 Attached thumbnail(s) WP_20160206_13_37_14_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.96mb ) Number of downloads: 156 WP_20160206_13_37_45_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.79mb ) Number of downloads: 128 WP_20160206_13_38_17_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.2mb ) Number of downloads: 110 WP_20160206_13_56_45_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.46mb ) Number of downloads: 111 WP_20160208_12_32_49_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.74mb ) Number of downloads: 105 WP_20160208_12_40_45_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.5mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160208_12_45_36_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.02mb ) Number of downloads: 86 WP_20160208_12_47_38_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.59mb ) Number of downloads: 82 WP_20160208_12_47_51_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.68mb ) Number of downloads: 90 WP_20160208_12_48_43_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.52mb ) Number of downloads: 91 WP_20160208_12_48_51_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.62mb ) Number of downloads: 93 WP_20160208_12_50_14_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.16mb ) Number of downloads: 89 WP_20160208_12_52_28_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.75mb ) Number of downloads: 80 WP_20160208_12_53_57_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.08mb ) Number of downloads: 83 WP_20160208_12_56_15_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.41mb ) Number of downloads: 93 WP_20160208_12_58_09_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.87mb ) Number of downloads: 94 WP_20160208_13_00_22_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.75mb ) Number of downloads: 96 WP_20160208_13_14_53_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.31mb ) Number of downloads: 90 WP_20160208_15_19_33_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.56mb ) Number of downloads: 70 WP_20160208_15_26_47_Pro.jpg ( Size: 2.04mb ) Number of downloads: 75 WP_20160208_15_26_55_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.82mb ) Number of downloads: 82 WP_20160208_15_40_18_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.44mb ) Number of downloads: 91 WP_20160208_16_49_56_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.92mb ) Number of downloads: 118 WP_20160208_16_50_15_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.54mb ) Number of downloads: 114 WP_20160208_16_50_47_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.44mb ) Number of downloads: 97 WP_20160208_16_51_22_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.63mb ) Number of downloads: 86 WP_20160208_16_51_28_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.66mb ) Number of downloads: 84 WP_20160208_18_12_33_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.88mb ) Number of downloads: 88 WP_20160208_18_12_45_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.6mb ) Number of downloads: 95 WP_20160208_18_12_54_Pro.jpg ( Size: 1.65mb ) Number of downloads: 104 |
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QUOTE(Mihai @ ro,10 Mar 2016, 17:24) la vara vreau sa mai bag odata ceara de cavitati prin toate gaurile, dar tre' sa le astup pe celelalte ca asta care am dat'o a curs jumate pe jos ca n'am pus doape.. Mai bine ca nu le-ai astupat, ca se aduna si intarea ceara neuniform, unde nu e indicat (pe langa gaurile de evacuare a apei, in usi si praguri de exemplu). QUOTE(Mihai @ ro,10 Mar 2016, 18:08) eu pana acum nu am avut probleme cu masticu asta, izoleaza foarte bine, nu mananca tabla cum sunt majoritatea rahaturilor din ziua de azi care miros a otet Alea-s "sanitare" (pt. bai si bucatarii), pe baza de acid acetic; se folosesc usor, dar ataca tabla. Sper (si eu) sa n-o vad la vanzare, ci sa te bucuri tu de ea, ca ai bagat ceva. O mica observatie (valabila si pt. altii, de fapt) - nu e o critica: cuvantul "restaurare" nu-si are locul in titlul topicului, sper ca intelegi de ce. |
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| sobolan |
10 Mar 2016, 20:57
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| ionutf |
10 Mar 2016, 22:16
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QUOTE(maho @ 10 Mar 2016, 21:24) Sper (si eu) sa n-o vad la vanzare, ci sa te bucuri tu de ea, ca ai bagat ceva. O mica observatie (valabila si pt. altii, de fapt) - nu e o critica: cuvantul "restaurare" nu-si are locul in titlul topicului, sper ca intelegi de ce. Eu nu pricep de ce nu se poate numi restaurare? Ti se pare cumva a fii reconditionare? Din punctul meu de vedere reconditionare înseamnă sa refaci masina cat de cat sa fie originala, ca sa ne rezumama strict la masini, adica ii dai o vopsea peste aia veche si reconditionezi unele piese sau in cel mai bun caz le schimbi doar pe alea care e nevoie sa le schimbi. Deci ce a facut Mihai la masina, din punctul meu e restaurare, argumente sunt destule si chiar st curios sa vad ce ar însemna defapt o restaurare daca asta nu e. This post has been edited by ionutf: 10 Mar 2016, 22:19 |
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10 Mar 2016, 22:17
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QUOTE(ionutf @ 10 Mar 2016, 23:16) Deci ce a facut Mihai la masina, din punctul meu e restaurare, argumente sunt destule total sunt de acord....reconditionate is altele cum e si a mea ,asta e restaurata,asa vad eu !!!This post has been edited by sobolan: 10 Mar 2016, 22:27 |
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Prin restaurare eu inteleg reconstituirea si repararea pieselor originale, cat mai aproape de stadiul in care au iesit ele din fabrica, nu inlocuirea lor (chiar si cu unele mai bune (vezi set motor Borgo, ca sa dau un exemplu). Vedeti pe la Danut, alt exemplu. Nici Horace n-a scris "restaurare" in topicul lui, si cred ca nu-i poate nimeni contesta calitatea lucrarilor (poate doar cine nu le-a vazut).
In masina asta, exceptand caroseria, s-au inlocuit o gramada de piese. Cine nu vrea masina originala, nu vorbeste de restaurare, asa mi se pare corect. Repet, nu contest calitatea pieselor inlocuite, sau banii bagati in masina. Obiectele de arta valoroase nu se inlocuiesc, ci se restaureaza, sper ca acum ati inteles. |
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10 Mar 2016, 23:14
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QUOTE(maho @ 10 Mar 2016, 23:51) Obiectele de arta valoroase nu se inlocuiesc, ci se restaureaza, sper ca acum ati inteles. si apoi se tin in garaj si se scot la pozat pe platforma.....dacia obiect valoros  ...poti sa bagi in ea si 3-4000E(si sunt care au bagat) apoi la revanzare pierzi la greu,doar ca are o valoare sentimentala si asta face mai mult decat banii !!! Setul ala motor de la Borgo e piesa OEM de r12 si multi ar vrea sa il aiba in motor... set motor de uzina din anii 80 am gasit eu nou la un nene batran cand cautam sa refac motorul dar erau cam ruginite camasile asa ca am zis pas,mai bine din magazin chiar daca nu e oem si asta am si facut !!! This post has been edited by sobolan: 10 Mar 2016, 23:21 |
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QUOTE(maho @ 10 Mar 2016, 23:51) Prin restaurare eu inteleg reconstituirea si repararea pieselor originale, cat mai aproape de stadiul in care au iesit ele din fabrica, nu inlocuirea lor (chiar si cu unele mai bune (vezi set motor Borgo, ca sa dau un exemplu). Vedeti pe la Danut, alt exemplu. Nici Horace n-a scris "restaurare" in topicul lui, si cred ca nu-i poate nimeni contesta calitatea lucrarilor (poate doar cine nu le-a vazut). In masina asta, exceptand caroseria, s-au inlocuit o gramada de piese. Cine nu vrea masina originala, nu vorbeste de restaurare, asa mi se pare corect. Repet, nu contest calitatea pieselor inlocuite, sau banii bagati in masina. Obiectele de arta valoroase nu se inlocuiesc, ci se restaureaza, sper ca acum ati inteles. Este total invers si americanii când redtaureaza masinile ai văzut le schimba si motorul si cam tot ce tine de mecanica, adica le imbunatatesc, mie alea nu prea mi se par restaurări ci mai degrabă modificari pt secolul in care trăim Defapt reconditionare înseamnă sa refaci unele piese la starea lor originala si masina la fel, far daca se înlocuiesc toate piesele cu altele nefolosite dar tot din aceeasi perioada, adica se respecta originalitatea si aspectul lor chiar se numeste restaurare. Parerea mea. . . This post has been edited by ionutf: 11 Mar 2016, 22:52 |
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11 Mar 2016, 09:31
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QUOTE(ionutf @ 10 Mar 2016, 22:16) Din punctul meu de vedere reconditionare înseamnă [...] Deci ce a facut Mihai la masina, din punctul meu e restaurare [...] Baieti, parerile noastre personale nu prea valoreaza cand vine vorba de definitia unui termen. Pentru a elimina orice dubiu, cel mai bine este sa consultam DEX-ul. Sa luam aminte: QUOTE RESTAURÁ, restaurez, vb. I. Tranz. 1. A repara, a aduce în bună stare, a reconstitui o lucrare de artă, un monument de arhitectură, respectând forma inițială, stilul originar. 2. A instaura din nou un suveran, o dinastie sau o formă de guvernământ abolită. [Pr.: -sta-u-] – Din fr. restaurer, lat., it. restaurare. Sursa: DEX '09 (2009) RESTAURÁ, restaurez, vb. I. Tranz. 1. A repara, a aduce în bună stare, a reface în forma inițială un monument de arhitectură, o pictură etc. 2. A instaura din nou un suveran, o dinastie sau o formă de guvernământ abolită. [Pr.: -sta-u-] – Din fr. restaurer, lat., it. restaurare. Sursa: DEX '98 (1998) Gasisem o referire la procesul de reconditionare al unui autovehicul, dar era intr-un dictionar de neologisme nerecunoscut de catre Academia Romana. Cel mai probabil va fi imprumutat si acest sens de catre Academie, dar pentru moment, este considerat gresit. Problema aici este una de imprumut mecanic al unui termen din limba engleza, care se intampla sa semene cu un cuvant din limba romanda, dar care inseamna altceva deci nu pot fi echivalate, adica "restoration" vs "restaurare". Exemple similare pacalesc pana si jurnalistii si liderii unor institutii, vezi "expertise" vs "expertiza". Cel mai potrivit termen este acela de reconditionare. Alternativ, personal, referindu-ma la masina din dotare, vorbesc de reparatie capitala. |
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11 Mar 2016, 10:10
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Se pare ca pt. unii, a restaura = a inlocui. Ma rog, parerea lor. Ce fraieri aia care au restaurat manastirile din nordul Moldovei, habar n-au avut ca trebuie sa inlocuiasca picturile vechi, cu unele noi, ieseau mai ieftin si mai rapid cu manopera.
Nu despre "dacia - obiect valoros" era discutia, iar eu n-am nici o problema cu cei care-si duc dacia la expozitii pe platforma, asa cu nu am nici cu cei care o folosesc zi de zi. Faptul ca Mihai a bagat o gramada de bani, munca si timp in ea, + piese, unele mai bune decat originalul, e laudabil. |
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11 Mar 2016, 10:26
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Nu vad cum este laudabil, ca doar a bagat bani pentru el si pentru masina lui. Noi astia care bagam bani in niste fiare chiar nu facem nimanui niciun favor. Nu vad de unde simt unii nevoia sa primeasca laude pentru ceea ce fac si de ce se supara cand primesc critici. Nu vorbesc de cineva anume, doar am vazut ca se poarta.
Probabil ca unii se alinta, numind-o restaurare, crezand ca astfel pun cumva mai multa enfaza pe importanta demersului lor. |
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11 Mar 2016, 10:50
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E, eu apreciez orice gest de a baga bani intr-o dacie (sau alta masina veche), pt. piese bune, in detrimentul pieselor ieftine si proaste. Reparatie, inlocuire sau restaurare, calitate sa fie, nu carpeala sau spoiala.
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11 Mar 2016, 11:04
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Propun sa mutam toate topicurile din acest sub-forum care se cheama "Restaurari" ca sa fiti voi multumiti. Incep?
P.S. - nu stiu daca ai observat maho, dar la suceava se prefera piesele noi noute This post has been edited by Ov: 11 Mar 2016, 11:05 |
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11 Mar 2016, 11:06
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Am zis ceva de nemultumiri? Am oferit niste clarificari acolo unde era clar o lacuna. Iar sub-forumul este denumit gresit, daca ma intrebi pe mine. Dar atat timp cat nu deranjeaza adminii (este produsul lor), nu vad nicio problema.
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11 Mar 2016, 11:08
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Parerea mea e ca sunteti carcotasi si va jucati cu definitiile. Pentru voi o reparatie de 1000 de euro e o reparatie si una de 10.000 de euro e restaurare
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11 Mar 2016, 11:09
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da-da, hai sa le mutam la "Imbunatatiri - Dacia Clasic", ca nu mai prea avem musterii pe-acolo
Amu' desi-s de acord ca termenii se suprapun de-i doare capul, exemplul cu pictura/manastirea nu-s tocmai potrivit, ca alea n-au o carca de piese care se uzeaza prin utilizare. Si no, si la o manastire, daca o usa/fereastra e pe duca, banui ca se da aprobare s-o inlocuiasca cu una preferabil facuta la fel. |
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11 Mar 2016, 11:11
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Eu chiar am spus ca niciuna nu este restaurare.
QUOTE(MuciX @ 11 Mar 2016, 09:31) Problema aici este una de imprumut mecanic al unui termen din limba engleza, care se intampla sa semene cu un cuvant din limba romanda, dar care inseamna altceva deci nu pot fi echivalate, adica "restoration" vs "restaurare". [...] Cel mai potrivit termen este acela de reconditionare. Alternativ, personal, referindu-ma la masina din dotare, vorbesc de reparatie capitala. Faptul ca ai bagat doar 1000 de euro vs 10000 poate insemna doar ca ai avut o baza mai buna de pornire. Iarasi, daca ma intrebi pe mine aia de 1k nu e mai putin importanta decat aia de 10k, daca rezultatele legate de masina sunt similare. Inca ceva, faptul ca unii dintre noi aleg sa puna si preturi mi se pare un "privilegiu" pe care il ofera cititorilor care pot afla astfel ce ar presupune un viitor proiect al lor. Puteau foarte bine sa tina cifrele pentru ei, iar in felul asta nu isi mai masura nimeni bugetul. This post has been edited by MuciX: 11 Mar 2016, 11:12 |
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parerea mea (o noua parere
 , sunt plin de pareri azi ) e ca de la un anumit nivel de rezultat final in sus termenii astia 2 devin sinonime |
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